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Anger, Sex and Confessions (Road Trip Series - Part Three)

Quick note: Please keep in mind while reading this that I’ve written it over such a long period of time (and that’s no one’s fault but my own) and that means it could honestly be the biggest pile of crap you’ve ever read, and totally not worth the wait that it has been. I’m nervous as fuck. Enjoy!

Part One: Warmth x If Looks Could Kill

Part Two: Wrong Directions and Shower Secrets

He suppressed a growl when he felt his body stiffening. The pleasure was too great for Justin to feel any sense of guilt or embarrassment when flashes of [Y/N]’s bare body entered his mind.

With care, his hand moved up and down his length but he knew it wouldn’t be long before his speed increased. His heart thumped rapidly against his ribcage and the steam started to suffocate him, he was determined to see himself through, despite having a lightheaded sensation in his head.  

He did with success. He knew he’d spent far too long in the shower, so long that the rest of the group were likely to be getting suspicious, but all of those worries left his brain when he felt himself falling over the edge.

Leaving his lips, pants and gasps bounced off the shower wall and returned back to their rightful owner almost immediately. Justin tried to bite the inside of his cheek to hold back the voicing of his pleasure but he knew he could only do so much.

The hot water mixed with his juices that managed to reach his stomach while he continued to stroke himself through the bliss that took its time to subside, as though it didn’t want to leave him. Justin would admit the feeling was mutual.

Feeling dizzy, he took a few minutes to let the water wash over his body and cleanse him of his actions that he was starting to feel slightly regretful of.

Stepping out of the shower only minutes later and panting breathlessly, Justin quickly trapped the heat against his body by wrapping the towel around his waist. He felt his cheeks burning and he was sure if he wasn’t dripping wet, he’d have sweat running down his forehead.

He felt relaxed, and at ease with no tension anywhere in his body. Looking in the mirror, even as it was steamed up, he could see the deep redness in his cheeks.

He shut the shower door before opening the bathroom one in front of him. The fact he’d made sure to wrap the towel around him quickly meant nothing when the cold air sent a shiver through his entire body and gave him the sensation of being given shock treatment.

The rest of the group were lounging around in front of the TV, and [Y/N]’s eyes met his own and he couldn’t help but smirk as she rapidly switched her attention to the TV once more, pretending their gaze hadn’t clicked momentarily.

He walked into the bedroom and didn’t bother turning the light switch   before closing the door and walking around to the far side of the room where his things were sprawled carelessly. He couldn’t help but catch a glance of red lace poking out of [Y/N]’s suitcase, and he had to quickly turn away to forget about it.

He dropped the towel from his body and pulled the boxers up his legs and over his junk. He grabbed some sweatpants out of his bag and threw them on. Water droplets hit his cheeks as his hair stuck up without direction. He ran his hand through it before grabbing a shirt and pulling it over his head as he aimed for the bedroom door.

Out in the main room, things were just as they were a few seconds ago, just as he expected. Once again, [Y/N] shifted her gaze onto him for only a moment. She was spread out across the couch that would have otherwise had a free seat. The floor was cold beneath his feet and he refused to sit on it. She didn’t budge as he walked closer to her.

“Move,” he said. She didn’t react nor did she show any sign of acknowledgement. “Move,“ he repeated, just a little louder.

"As you can see, this couch is currently taken,” she replied, her eyes on the TV.

“Maybe so, but it could also be taken by two if you moved your fat ass,” he hissed, taking a hold of her legs and trying to pull them off of the couch.

“Fucking hell, sit here,” Kylie said, standing abruptly. Justin watched in annoyance as [Y/N] moved her feet out of the way so Kylie could sit down.

The room was quiet apart from the TV, and Justin could sense it was almost awkward, no one was in a hurry to say anything to break it however. He bounced his leg on the floor mindlessly and rested his hands on his stomach.

“Okay, I can’t hold it in any longer. We saw you guys cuddling this morning,” Khalil exclaimed as a grin burst out onto his face. He looked like he was ready to explode.

Justin instantly scoffed, and [Y/N] imitated him. “You’re talking shit, I don’t know what you’re talking about,” he muttered, feeling his heart rate pick up.

“I figured you’d say that,” Khalil replied and did the one thing Justin was silently praying he wouldn’t do; he pulled his phone out of his pocket.

Looking over at [Y/N], he could see she had a mix of panic, worry and confusion across her face. He shifted his gaze back to Khalil who was ready to reveal the proof. And when he did, Justin held back a groan.

On his phone was a photo Justin was expecting simply because he remembered exactly how he’d woken up that morning; [Y/N]’s back pressed against his chest, his arm around her comfortably.

“Care to explain?” It was Kendall’s turn to grin.

“You want an explanation?” Justin asked while [Y/N] sat quietly, almost stunned. “We’re secret fuck buddies. Yeah, I’m surprised you didn’t hear us last night the way I was giving it to her-“

"Justin!” [Y/N] hissed. “That is not true.”

"Well, that’s what they want? Isn’t it?” he spat and shocked expressions took over three of the faces staring at him. “Of course nothing’s going on between us. I can’t stand her, I can’t stand her bitchy attitude, and anyone who’d be willing to even hold her hand must be out of their mind, besides,” Justin muttered mindlessly, pointing in [Y/N]’s direction before slumping back against the couch. "I can do way better than a bitch like her.”

She didn’t want to be quick to say it hurt, but she could feel a deep snag in her heart, as though someone had shoved a knife through her chest but it had caught and tangled in her veins.

The silence made it worse; it either meant no one was fazed by Justin’s comment, or they had realised it was a little too much so sudden. Either way, [Y/N] jumped to her feet and aimed for the door without letting the thought process. It was as though all of her insecurities had been brought to the surface in a harsh attempt to drown her and she couldn’t help but feel her eyes swimming in tears.

Justin watched the TV without taking notice. She slipped her shoes on and thanked the warm weather that she was able to leave without grabbing a coat. She made an effort to slam the door behind her.

The air gave her a hard slap to the face, but she felt better with the fresh air filling her lungs, even the sight of the trees waving softly made her feel somewhat at ease.

She walked, she wasn’t sure what direction or how far, but she passed nothing but green land and the odd yellow patches until the sun started to sink before the landscape. It caused her to flinch away as it glared at her, burning her retinas without remorse.

Birds flew over her head, chirping excitedly and frightening her when they swooped just a little lower than usual. There was soft rustling in the bushes but she decided it was nothing she should worry about.There was a gush of wind attacking her back with so much force, she felt her body being ushered forwards.

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It’d been a few hours since she’d left and since she hadn’t even thought of her phone as she stormed out, there was no way for her to have contact with anyone. She was grateful for it a few hours ago, but the sun was leaving her and she was no longer as warm as she had been, and suddenly, not as confident that she’d be able to get back.

She turned around on her heels suddenly and started to stumble back where she’d come from. With a little bit of panic in her system, the ground no longer seemed so perfectly laid out before her. The air seemed like ice on her skin, she wrapped her arms around her body.

The sky looked as though it was ablaze; the blue that once looked like an ocean in the sky had transformed into a mixture of reds and yellows, it looked like someone had painted it, maybe even just for her. She could see the last edge of the sun leave behind the hills and the sky became even darker. She tried not to worry but the air was getting colder by the second and she could no longer feel her fingers.

She wasn’t sure how long it had been; minutes, possibly hours, but she managed to find her way back eventually. It was just as the sky turned a deep blue, going on black, colour. She felt fatigue wash over her body while walking towards the door. The lights were still on and the place looked just as it had done when she left, with a little more life to it now that it was the only light source outside.

She felt a sense of awkwardness crawl into her body when she walked inside; her hurt and embarrassment had somewhat subsided and she wasn’t feeling at all up to the possible gazes she may just get as she meets their faces. It happened, no matter how much she wanted to run away for a few more hours.

"Where the fuck have you been?!” Kylie shot towards her and grabbed her by the arm, her hands were warm and [Y/N] appreciated it. “You’ve been gone hours.”

"Sorry, I just needed some fresh air, that’s all.” She shrugged as though it was nothing, as though she hadn’t gotten lost and began to panic. “I’m fine, honestly.”

"Yeah, now, we didn’t know that an hour ago,” Kendall pointed out as she sat on the edge of the couch. Khalil was stood behind her, leaning against the back of the couch.

A sudden emotion set into [Y/N]’s body and she knew all it could be was guilt; she’d been so caught up in thinking about herself and her own emotions, she didn’t seem to think about the fact that she’d left with no explanation.

“You’re right, I’m sorry. I should have said something, I didn’t mean to worry you.” She sent them an apologetic smile while a flush creeped up to her cheeks. “Forgive me?” 

The worried looks were still being sent her way, but after hugs and more apologies from [Y/N], everything was resolved, much to her relief. Sighing, she dropped down onto the couch.

“Are you okay?” Kylie dared to ask what the other two seemed to be wanting to by the way they nodded.

“Yeah, I’m okay, just needed to clear my head, that’s all,” she replied with a strong element of truth behind her words. “I think I’m gonna go get some rest though.”

“Do you wanna swap-“

“I’ll be okay, he’s probably asleep anyway. Night.” [Y/N] sent smiles to the three of them before making her way across the room to her bedroom door, kicking her shoes off as she did so. She could see the light through the small gap underneath the door and felt her heart come alive in her chest.

Her eyes met Justin sat on the edge of the bed with his phone in his hands. When the door opened, he was quick to turn to see who had walked through it and when his eyes clocked [Y/N], he jumped to his feet.

“Where the fuck have you been?” he hissed the same words Kylie had, taking her by surprise. “You’ve been gone for hours!”

“That’s none of your business,” she muttered, suddenly avoiding eye contact as though if she met his eyes, she’d lose all strength.

“Well, believe it or not, it kinda is. If you hadn’t have come back, I’d never have been able to live with myself.”

“What you said hurt,” she murmured, “but don’t flatter yourself.”

“Where did you go?”

“Why do you care?”

He sighed heavily. “I don’t know, [Y/N], okay? But I do.”

[Y/N] didn’t know what to say so she didn’t attempt to think of anything. The mere fact that Justin had been worried about her while she was gone was enough to throw her off track. It stayed quiet for a while, Justin’s confession was hanging painfully exposed in the air, and she used that time to climb under the warmth of the covers.

“I’m sorry,” Justin rasped.

“What for?”

“You know what for, for what I said.”

“I’m over it, I don’t care.” She played with the edge of the covers to stop herself from looking over at Justin’s bare back.

“Are you?” he asked and, finally, laid back against the pillows. They laid side by side, completely still, as though they were scared that whoever moved first would lose the battle.

“Totally.”

Justin rolled over onto his side. His head rested against the palm of his hand and his eyes burned into the side of [Y/N]’s face. She itched to return his gaze.

“..I enjoyed being with you, holding you, I mean. It felt nice.”

His confessions were piling up and she knew his ways too well to not question whether it was just another one of his games. She stayed quiet.

“Why won’t you look at me?” he asked with confusion lacing and decorating his tone.

“Why are you being so nice to me?” She finally found the strength to look at him, and when she did, she could see colour swirling around his pupils.

He shrugged and bit the inside of his cheek. “I guess I’m just tired of pretending that I don’t care for you when all I want to do is compliment you.”

“Where is this coming from?” she asked; she couldn’t think of anything else to say.

Justin sighed again, and ran a hand through his jungle of hair. “I guess when you left, it scared me. I didn’t know where you were or if you were okay, or even if you were coming back. It made me realise that I do care about you,” he said before letting out a large breath of air. He looked worried, he’d never looked like that in front of her.

“I don’t know what to say,” she whispered. She wanted to tell him that she was enjoying his warmth, and that she’d like him to come closer, but she didn’t.

“That’s okay, you don’t have to say anything. I know this is sudden. We can just go to sleep and forget everything if you want.”

His words echoed in her mind like a record threatening to skip and start all over again. She didn’t want to sleep, at least not without him close. She wanted him to keep saying nice things to her, as selfish as that sounded. She liked the new Justin, and she couldn’t help but remember how his arms felt firmly around her waist.

He was still watching her closely, and she hadn’t any control over the next words that left her lips.

“Kiss me.”

His eyes widened and he took the characteristics of an ice statue for a few seconds. [Y/N] half expected water to start gliding his temple at any moment, and she was sure if it reached his cheek it would sizzle.

However, in the next few seconds he transformed into something wild. He leaped forward and grabbed her face in his hands, making her gasp, but not in surprise. His lips were hot and relaxed her whole body immediately. Their kisses were hungry, that kind of hungry you feel when you haven’t eaten since breakfast and it’s late in the evening.

She’d never heard him moan before, only groan in annoyance at her. She quickly decided she loved the sound and wanted more.

Justin hovered about her, careful not to touch her too much in case she didn’t want to go further. He moved his fingers up her arms and pulled her hands up over her head and held them tightly in his grip. Her tongue grazed against his own and he wanted nothing more than to bite down.

Taking a chance, he abandoned the grasp he had on her hands and moved his left hand to the end of her shirt, letting his fingers wander underneath. When she didn’t resist, he moved them further up towards the very edge of her bra. He could feel lace and growled like a hungry animal into the back of her throat. This made her curve her chest up into him.

“Justin,” she whispered because again she was lost for words.

“Are you sure?” he asked, his eyes switching between hers. She nodded and threw her head back against the fluffy pillows.

His hand almost ripped the shirt from her body with eagerness. A rush of lust released into this body, causing him to grip her hips tighter than he planned. It wasn’t long before the fabric hiding her boobs was thrown behind him. Justin didn’t hesitate to bring his mouth around her left nipple to hear her whimper.

He realised he took great pleasure in hearing her make such delicate noises that floated so wonderfully into his ear and sent tingles running down his neck and spreading to deeper parts of his body. It was something - after all the arguments and miscommunication - he never thought he would feel.

“Definitely,” she replied, pulling his lips against her own by grabbing his neck. “Please don’t take your time.”

He didn’t have to be told twice and became increasingly eager as he took the beginning of her sweatpants in his fingertips. [Y/N]’s skin was warm under his touch. He pulled them down her long legs with a rapidly beating heart, and felt as though it was seconds from coming to a halt once they’d been dropped to the floor and her legs were for him to look at.

An almost inaudible moan left the back of his throat, it would have gone unnoticed if it wasn’t for the strong silence around them, almost like it was waiting for what was to follow.

“I didn’t realise just how much I wanted this until now,” Justin murmurs quietly, unsure if [Y/N] caught what he’d said. His hands venture to the hem of her underwear. “May I?”

“Please,” she whispered.

With a pounding heart and a threatening hard on, Justin just managed to take his time while dragging her underwear down her legs, giving them the same destiny as her sweatpants as he launched them to the floor.

“You’re wearing too much material,” [Y/N] said, indicating to the shorts he was wearing. Justin merely smirked and got to his feet.

With a heart racing wildly in her chest, [Y/N] watched without trying to look too eager. Although when his shorts were off and laying discarded on top of her own, she was sure her breathing was about to stop.

“D’you want a little strip tease?” Justin asked, his infamous grin plastered on his lips as he swayed his hips from left to right gently, wiggling his ass to nonexistent music. “I’ve been told I have excellent stripper skills.”

[Y/N] couldn’t help but laugh, and realised it was probably the first time she’d laughed at him without the joke being at his expense. “Just get over here before I dry up like the desert.”

“Oh, I love it when you talk dirty,” he smirked and gained speed while pulling his boxers down the bottom half of his body. She took the inside of her cheek between her teeth as she felt the heat rush to her cheeks.

He reached over to his bag with a rapid pace and returned with a condom packet that was ripped open and covering him in a matter of seconds. The look of desire in his eye was obvious if the sudden movements didn’t make it clear.

“Ready?” he whispered, towering over her body with his hands resting firmly beside her head. [Y/N] could see his breath becoming heavier by the second.

“More than.”

Justin let his hands slip up and down her sides before pushing his hips forward. There was a tense moment between the two while they allowed reality to set in, but Justin smashed through it was a moan of appreciation against the skin of [Y/N]’s neck.

“How I’ve managed to resist you for this long is a mystery,” he muttered, holding back the desire to bite down on her neck.

She didn’t reply, but simply pushed her hips up as far as she could, feeling Justin’s own slam against hers as a result. [Y/N] watched his jaw tightened for a mere few seconds.

“Talk to me,” he breathed as he lowered himself so that he was closer to her. Their heat radiated off of each other without any trouble. “D’you like that?”

She nodded before she responded. “Y-yes,” she said, needing to catch her breath. “Please don’t stop.” Her nails were digging exceptionally hard into his shoulders, but he didn’t seem to have a problem.

“I’d be an idiot to stop, I wanna know what you’re like when you cum,” he grinned madly, and [Y/N] sensed movement lower down her body. She thought nothing of it until a warm sensation, similar to before, pressed down on her clit.

“Oh fuck,” [Y/N] whispered, letting her eyes fall shut while her body stayed tense. She gripped Justin’s shoulders with the tips of her fingers instead of her nails. “Justin..”

“I know, I know, I know. That’s good, right?” he whispered, becoming impossibly close to her. “All those arguments seem so pointless when we could’ve been doing this the whole time,” he rasped, slamming his hips closer to her.

“We’re idiots,” she chuckled in agreement, but was quickly taken over by the tightening in her stomach. Her heart began to race rapidly.

“I’m not gonna last much longer,” he muttered so quietly [Y/N] had to wonder if he was talking to her or himself.

It was clear he was coming close; his thrusts took a turn and became harder as each one took place, but they became less coordinated, like Justin was losing control of his hips.

“[Y/N]..” Justin’s voice trailed off into what was barely a whisper, as though the intended words had been stolen from his lips.

“Cum for me,” she whispered encouragingly, meanwhile feeling her own climax approaching.

“I want to see you cum first, I want to feel you cum first. Do that for me.”

There was a certain pressure that did [Y/N] a world of favours; the idea of Justin watching her, his eyes burning into her, send her stomach doing backflips. She pushed her hips up confidently and felt the familiar feeling of falling over the edge.

“C’mon, baby,” he muttered into her ear. His voice was shaky, as though he was holding back on something he was seconds from losing control of. “Cum for me. Right now.”

[Y/N] did just that. Aware of the fact that there were three other people currently in other rooms, she bit down on her bottom lip, but it didn’t stop a squeal emitting from the back of her throat thanks to Justin’s fingers working their magic on her clit faster than she thought possible. It calmed down into a whine that caused Justin to slam into her with what felt like his entire power.

“Fuck, I’m there,” he panted and took a firm hold of her hips. The speed in which Justin began to pound into her extended her orgasm for a few moments longer, letting the bliss last.

His eyes scrunched closed while his jaw clenched tightly. He looked absolutely wonderful and [Y/N] soaked in his beauty in that moment. The moans and grunts that clashed together in the air around them caused an entire new wave of pleasure through her body and she had to try to not let it show.

A minute later and the air was filled with heat, panting and awkwardness. Justin had sunk down beside her and they both lay staring at the ceiling, not touching each other for the first time in a long while that night. Suddenly feeling very bare, [Y/N] pulled the sheets over her body.

“Are you regretting it?” Justin asked.

Alarmed, she answered. “No, are you?”

“Not in the slightest.” He rolled over to look at her, she stared a little longer at the ceiling. “Is it gonna be awkward between us now, or can we just skip over that and do it again?”

“It’s only awkward if we make it awkward,” she replied and shuffled further down the bed and rolled onto her side so that her face was in line with his own.

“..You’re so beautiful.” It was unexpected, and it sent a red hot flush to [Y/N]’s cheeks. Justin noticed. “I’m sorry for everything I’ve called you over the years.”

“We both said things, it was fair. Good game, by the way, you can definitely throw some hits,” she chuckled. ‘We’ll call it a tie.”

“Deal,” Justin grinned. “Can I kiss you now?” he asked, before leaning closer. [Y/N] happily closed the space between them.

It felt strange to be happily kissing someone she thought she despised for such a long time, and Justin wondered how he’d been missing something so wonderful for far too many years. He didn’t dwell on it for too long however; [Y/N]’s ran her tongue across his own and he realised there were far too many new things to experience with her to be dwelling on the past.

Important: The V and Rika Discourse; this needs to stop.

Please read, everyone

Hey guys, I have something important that I’d like to announce:

I think I’m gonna try to..stay a little bit away from Tumblr up until the hype calms down. Opinions can’t be stated freely these days without something going wrong, and nobody can ever just..talk about their different views like adults in a mature manner. Or, people state opinions without any proof or reasoning. Liking characters to spite people, insulting those with different opinions, and it’s all over something you all consider to be a game. @yoosungshoodie made an amazing point which was:

“You all say it’s just a game and that it isn’t serious, but it becomes serious as soon as you’re called out or proved wrong”

That wasn’t their exact words, but that was the general message. I agree with them completely. Everyone’s all talk and what they say is right and you’re wrong but then as soon as someone makes a valid point, NONE of you are willing to accept that and it becomes “IT’S NOT THAT SERIOUS LOL IT’S JUST A GAME, CALM DOWN”

Then why did you care so much in the first place?

If you like V, cool, if you like Rika, cool. Like em both? Cool. Don’t like either? Cool. GUYS. It is SERIOUSLY not something you should all be screaming about and starting feuds over and this is getting ridiculous. I like the people who can disagree with me, present their opinions without getting aggressive, and have a conversation with me like a human being. Is it normal to get a little upset? Of course, I tend to. But I don’t sit there and talk to the person like they’re a piece of garbage and I do my best to never word what I say as if it’s 100% fact unless it’s something that has been directly presented to us in the game with only one possibly way to take it.

I was so excited too, it was so exciting to see Mystic Messenger trend again! But no, people who act like children had to ruin the experience. “Oh look at you, you’re insulting people” I’m doing it reasonably. I’m telling you how it is. And nobody ever listens either.
Some of you need to stop with the sticks up your asses and learn that just because it’s your opinion, that doesn’t make it fact. BE OPEN to what others have to say, whether it’s agreeing or disagreeing with you. Don’t just dismiss their ideas because yours are different.

“Hey I disagree with this *insert polite reasoning*”

“Oh wow, that’s really interesting..I didn’t think about it that way”

Funny right? Cause like…hardly anyone ever talks like that. it’s more:

“Wow you fucking skank, it’s all Rika’s fault/it’s all V’s fault *insert childish rambling*”

Here’s what we know, okay? Let me tell you EXACTLY what the V and Rika situation is: None of you are V, none of you are Rika, and none of you are Cheritz. Therefore, none of us know everything and I don’t think any of us ever will and frankly, I hope it stays that way so everyone can just get over this and enjoy the game instead of fighting with all this “iM RIGHT AND YOURE WRONG!” “V DID NOTHING WRONG!” “RIKAS A SNAKE!” or “V USED RIKA AND ITS ALL HIS FAULT!!” “V DID THIS AND THAT AND-”

Guys. STOP. 

Poor Cheritz, man. They have the mature, wonderful, fun fans who just love the game and making friends with others like them.

And then there’s some people. The people who have to shit in the swimming pool. Not even piss in it, but shit in it. The ones who can’t STAND listening to other people’s opinions, whether you’re on V or Rika’s side or on both or not on either, god, I do not care because people from every perspective have and will continue to act like children about this up until they leave the fandom. This is absolutely ridiculous and I’m disappointed in the people who do this in the fandom and make it hard for other people to enjoy it.

That all being said, I’m not leaving. *Unless this somehow gets any worse* But I’ll only be coming back to answer a few asks and maybe shitpost, talk to people, and that’s it. Up until all this chaos is gone, anyway. When everyone calms down, I’ll return to write more. This all has completely diminished my will to write out things and be happy for right now. 

Please spread this message as much as you can guys. Please, whether it’s reblogging or posting something similar in your own words, please just make sure people know that this is getting out of hand.

Update: now that v route has been officially confirmed, it’s gotten worse and boy are we royally fucked

A👏T👏T👏E👏N👏T👏I👏O👏N👏

everyone in the phandom just needs to LISTEN to me, please just read this.

The phandom needs to STOP putting the younger members of the phandom down.

You can’t blame all the shit that happens in the phandom on a single age group. that is wrong.

and you can especially stop calling every tween or early teen member of the phandom “cringey” or “annoying”. do you personally know every single tween or early teen member of the phandom ? no. so stop stereotyping an entire group based on the actions of a few.

people who do that are the very reason why they’re younger phandom members out there who have to lie about their age just to get some respect. you are the reason why so many potential phandom members get scared away or try to “leave” the phandom because they aren’t being treated like they should be.

when you were their age you were probably fangirling about someone. a band member, a celebrity, heck, ur next door neighbor.

so why can’t they ?

kids around their age are reaching a stage of maturity and development. their hormones are going crazy, which is the reason why many young people are such hardcore fangirls ( or boys, or non-gender conforming people ).

they shouldn’t have to justify themselves “ yeah I’m 13, but I’m not like some of those crazy 13 year old fans. I’m mature.” can’t they just say they’re a fan like everyone else ??

these people are the future of our phandom. so how about you treat them with some respect and welcome them ? they are human beings.

it’s a shame that the negative things people do stick out over all the positive things. these poor phans do so much for the phandom but the minute something happens, they’re immediately blamed.

while we’re at it, stop assuming that if someone is being cringey or annoying or saying something that other phans don’t agree with that they’re a tween or early teen. i know so many tweens and early teens who are so much more mature then these older members of the phandom. tweens and early teens CAN be mature. but i guess some of the older members of the phandom can’t.

they deserve respect, they deserve to be treated nicely. whether you like it or not, they are a part of the phandom. and here, everyone is welcomed and respected. no matter your age.

It bothers me a bit when people assume that all immature Kpop fans are 12-14 year olds. I’m 14, but most of the time I’m more mature than the older fans I talk to. I respect idols’ privacy. I respect idols’ relationships. I don’t hate on idols that I don’t like, I just ignore them and go on with my day. So when people say to an immature fan “Oh you’re just a delusional 12-14 year old!” I find it slightly annoying. I’m not saying that there aren’t immature 12-14 year old fans. I’m just saying that you shouldn’t just assume and label people. Age does not equal maturity or wisdom

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On Shinhwa’s celebration of 7000 days since debut, Kim Dongwan reminds fans that Shinhwa isn’t responsible for their lives & no one is responsible for Shinhwa’s lives either. And that Shinhwa Changjo are Shinhwa’s strong companions, history, & living witnesses. Such wise & mature talk that’s coming out from a veteran group to their “mature” fans. Respect! ..
Let’s always make sure we behave like the mature fandom Shinhwa believes we are. Let’s, as the longest-running fandom, always set a good example for other fandoms to follow.
Until you’re 60 & beyond, we’ll always be by ur side, Shinhwa ^_^ 

you know how most of the times you are just another stable and mature fan who appreciates and support your faves normally, but sometimes it just… hit you how important they are to you and you become a crying mess in the corner of your room?

that’s what happens when I stop to really think about how b.a.p makes me feel, I mean - they are the reason I still have dreams, the reason I still hope for a better world, the reason I still believe in people. The world is going through dark times right now, and the fact that they are able to make me see some light in it is so amazing. b.a.p is my safe place, and it doesn’t matter if I am able to be the most active stan ever or barely have time to make a post once a week, I will stand by them and I will forever remember this group as a crucial factor for the person I have become (and am proud of).

I can’t even explain how thankful I am for supporting this group.

I’m really loving how most of the vlog squad fans are mature enough to hold Dom responsible and not blindly say stuff like “I’ll love you no matter what”. He’s gross and victim blaming is absolutely horrifying, especially considering the amount of bravery it must take to speak up about an influencer knowing that they’re gonna get hated on by fans.

PSA PSA PSA

Stop being so disrespectful to Sarah. If you ship Ryden or Brallon, don’t comment things like “Brendon loves Ryan more tho” or “RyDEN/BrALLON IS REAL” That’s uncalled for as hell. Don’t be rude to her in your comments; IF YOU DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING NICE TO SAY ABOUT/TO HER THEN DO N O T SAY IT!!!! You don’t have to like her, but you don’t have to be a disrespectful little shit. ALSO, stop being rude to Ryan. Just a guess, but he probably doesn’t appreciate comments about Ryden or “GET baCK TOGETHER WITH BEEBO AND PANIC!!” Stop commenting shit on Brendon’s social media too. “RYDEN IS SO MUCH BETTER THAN SARAH AND BRENDON,” “MILK FIC,” and etc is immature. Don’t comment rude things about his wife, or his personal life and choices. He’s a grown man, leave him alone. I’m not saying that you have to like Sarah, or stop believing that Ryden was/wasn’t real, BUT JUST BE RESPECTFUL. THEY ARE ADULTS AND DESERVE JUST A TINY BIT OF MATURITY FROM THEIR FANS. 
Thank you, this has been a PSA.

BTS A.R.M.Y: RULES TO KNOW IF YOU ARE NEW TO THE FANDOM

As you may have noticed, BTS are now having a huge time in America and a great impact in te world’s music industry. That has brought to them a big bunch of new stans. The A.R.M.Y family is growing huge, and if you are new to the fandom of course all of your unnies and oppas will welcome you with a smile. BUT there exist a bunch of rules and behaviors us, A.R.M.Y, need to follow if we want to keep up with the tag of «most loyal fandom» and the peace, order and good connivance.

Well, so let’s begin.

Rule #1:
You WON’T start fights with other fandoms. Avoid fandom wars.

As you may notice, A.R.M.Ys have a delicate relationship with our EXO-Ls sisters. Most of us are tired of the ones in the fandoms that start fights. So PLEASE be careful with what you say. Praise all groups for their hard work. If you don’t come to like EXO or any other K-Pop group, you don’t have the right to express disapproval by insulting them or their fans. Be mature. Let’s show the K-Pop community that A.R.M.Y has grown up.

Rule #2:
You WON’T call BTS kings or gods unironically.

BTS are a great group that has come too far by themselves. Yes, they tend to break stereotypes and be different, and yes, they may be one of the bests boybands out there. BUT that doesn’t make them any superior to other groups. What we want is to have a harmonious community, and avoid fandom wars. Fandom wars regularly begin when proud and egocentric stans call their groups the best in the industry. All groups are doing their best and have done their best. There is no king, no queen, no god or goddess of K-Pop. In a subjective point of view, BTS may be the bests for you, but just remember there exist variety of opinion in the community and you shouldn’t try to convince anyone of your own truth.

Rule #3:
You are NOT going to compare the members.

BTS is a group that has been outstanding because of the unbelievably great relationship the members have, plus their humility and sincerity. They love each other as brothers and are a true example of brotherhood and team work. As well, us A.R.M.Y have to appreciate their hard work by equal. In this band, there is no rapper better than other, or singer better than other. They all have their talents and stand out for their own unique skills. I beg you to please don’t compare the members ever.

Rule #3:
Avoid talking about BTS everywhere.


Some fandoms are tired of A.R.M.Y bringing up BTS in every topic. It’s not surprising since we are known for being loyal and passionate to our boys. However, this tends to tiren up other fandoms. Let’s say that right now the A.R.M.Y community doesn’t have a very honored title among the K-Pop stans because of that. Much of them hate the fandom and even hate our boys’ success because of the fandom itself. I know it sounds ridiculous. But let’s try to change it. If another group is in the highlights, let’s congratulate them and their fandom. Let’s not fall in haughtiness.

Rule #4:
Defend the boys.


Up there I mentioned to avoid fandom wars. And yes, avoid them. BUT defend the boys in a good manner whenever you see someone insulting them or the fandom. If you are A.R.M.Y you’ll soon fall in love with the family, and as a strong family we protect each other. Actually, A.R.M.Y are known for being protective, so lets keep up on that. If you are having trouble defending the boys or the family to someone that is being missbehave and rude, call other A.R.M.Y to stand out in defence WITH GOOD MANNERS. Cease to fight with anyone who is being stubborn, better leave them in their own ignorance.

Rule #5:
STAN MUSIC, NOT JUST LOOKS.

BTS are a group well known for caring a lot more about their art than their visuals. If you want to be a true A.R.M.Y you should clearly listen to all their albums, the tracks they’ve developed outside the BigHit label, their mixes, read their translated lyrics, realize how poetic and beautiful their music is. If you gotta show off something about the boys, its their talent, trust me. Sure they are handsome and charismatic, but they are real for their music. Sure they may have called your attention at first glance because of their great looks, but know there is more about them than just pretty faces and expensive clothing.

Rule #6:
GET RID OF THE APPROPIATION SENSE.


This is very important: your bias does not belong to you. It hasn’t happened yet, but if one of the boys ever decides to have a public relationship with whoever, you must not insult their partner or hate on them even if the jelousy is killing you. Realize how immature and ridiculous that is.

Rule #7:
Don’t take the ships too far.


I know a lot of fans that get really obssessed with ships. It happens in every fandom. But please, remember that being too obvious about the ships can make the boys uncomfortable and also other stans. Don’t insult your fellow unnies and oppas if they happen to ship anything different from you. Don’t start ship wars in the fandom. Don’t make yourself any illusion that your ship may be canon, because by now we are not sure about the boys’ sexuality and we’ve only see their brotherly love side. They are adorable, I know, but don’t make yourself any wrong conception of what they really think about each other. Also, you will notice that in this fandom specially there is… hum… how can I say it… Poligamy? xD Kind of, there are tons of ships. Basically you can ship every member with every other member, even outside the group! You’ll find some crazy shippers, some multi-shippers (as me), and some rare species that only happen to ship one thing (I don’t have a clue of how they manage to stay loyal to their only ship omg). However, you can have fun with this, but just don’t take it to insanity. Please.

Rule #8:
Learn which kind of jokes may result offensive.


I’m not going to lie, A.R.M.Y is a dope fandom. The best thing I love about this family is its humour sense. The jokes, the memes, the crack vids, its all fantastic. BUT as in everything, you need to know what is accepted and what is not. For example; don’t call Seokjin a princess. He doesn’t like being called that way, its disrespectful. Instead, why not call him a charming prince? or an egocentric bitch, I don’t know xD (Also realize that Seokjin is a very sarcastic person and he may seem arrogant if you can’t catch the joke, but he’s just very funny and his humour tends to be ironical. Just a little fact here) and also, don’t call Taehyung an alien. He doesn’t like that either, and I don’t want to talk to you about the scold you will receive from a V biased if they ever hear you call him an alien. I, myself, am an example of that. Don’t call him stupid or dumb either, he is not. Don’t call Yoongi lazy too often, if you do that sure there’ll be some Suga biased claiming to you he is not lazy at all (tho that may be a lie and we know it xD). Don’t EVER dare to say Namjoon or Hoseok are ugly. Ever. You’ll get hurt, trust me. I mean, I don’t even know why someone would joke about that, they are like the most beautiful creatures I’ve seen in my freaking life ???  I’ve been a long time on this fandom, and I think by now some very acceptable jokes that have always been funny are jokes about Jimin’s height and Jungkook’s bunny looks. However, these are jokes that the boys themselves started and tell, so we assume its correct if we use them. Whenever the boys end a joke, we stop making fun of it.

Rule #9:
Guide your new sisters and brothers into the fandom.


Help people know well their new family. More important: get people interested in BTS! Show your friends the MV’s, tell them about the crazy theories and how charming and talented the boys are. As good A.R.M.Y our work is to help them gain recognition, and guiding new people to their concepts and music is a way to make it. 

Rule #10:
Don’t be a koreaboo.


We know Korea is a very interesting country and the mother of one of the greatest cultures, but a lot of people will find annoying and even racist if you get too obssessed with South Korean’s popular culture or Hallyu. I may have to admit that me myself was a koreaboo for a long time and have been sometimes. South Korea its fantastic and its media culture its very attractive, but know that there also exist other means of comsumption and markets around the world. Also, please, don’t create yourself a fetiche around asian people. That is racist. Control yourselves, fam. Don’t get me wrong; support the hallyu, but don’t take the obssession too far. Also, don’t trust the website named “koreaboo” because it’s bullshit.


I think that’s it for now. Those are kind of the important points I think of. Thank you for reading this and please reblog! If you want to add anything please feel free to do it.

Can some of you stop treating me like a piece of shit just because I ship Hidekane? like I never say nothing bad about others ships and i always keep my mouth closed only to not make drama. And in case you can’t read, I said “some” so don’t come at me with the “Not everyone is like that!111!!!!!!!111!”. I’m talking about the ones who don’t have respect and just treat you like trash because they don’t ship what you ship. I think Touken is pretty cute and if i never shipped Hidekane i would for sure ship them. It’s not the kind of Touken vs Hidekane. It’s just that when i’m to obsessed with one ship, it’s pretty hard to me to ship another one who includes the same person of my goddam otp. I mean, if Ishida decides to make Touken endgame, I wouldn’t mind. But of course, it would hurt, because that’s not my main ship. Anyways, you guys can do whatever the hell you want. Ship what you want. You can have an notp, and hate the ship with all your might, but stop treating others like shit just because of those goddam ships. Neither you should insult or threat Ishida, it’s his history and he will do whatever he wants. And to the ones who are throwing the “it’s canon” in our faces, stop it. We know it, we know you’re happy, you’re excited and you can’t believe it happened. But it was pretty obvious. You guys probably know there are immature fans as much as there are mature fans too. But you can’t deal with the immature ones, and you know they will get salty at anytime so you just throw more shit to them and start wars. And If you want to drop it, just do it. Who the fuck cares if you get called fake fan, you know what you are and what you want to do, don’t worry about it. Honestly, I don’t care if I get more hate with this, but I really had the need to say what was in my mind. Just enjoy the manga, it’s not that hard.

anonymous asked:

what did trin do!!

girl….buckle the fuck up. 
i watched a recording of this and i wanted to link it here but can’t seem to be able to find it. if anyone has links, i’d appreciate if you reblogged this with them so that people can see. 
she was on instagram live and somebody asked her opinion on bio queens and whether she thinks they should be allowed on drag race. she said no and proceeded to ramble about how in her opinion drag & drag race is about “transformation from male to female” (…) and no matter how talented a bio/faux queen could be, they wouldn’t have this type of transformation and thus shouldn’t be allowed on drag race. that’s bullshit. not HORRIBLY problematic, but absolute bullshit nonetheless. 
but then it got so much worse.
either someone on the live stream mentioned peppermint or she felt the need to mention her to somehow “justify” her being on drag race to back up her previous bullshit arguments, but this bitch started talking abt how it was “okay” for peppermint to be on rpdr “because she didn’t have boobs yet at the moment they were filming” and “because she dressed like a man”. my fucking jaw fell OPEN. way to completely nullify all of your apparent growth throughout the season and reveal yourself to be transphobic trash. i couldn’t watch any further so idk what anyone said to her after that and what she said in response, it was disgusting. 
(as someone cleverly pointed out, if drag is about transformation why did you get yourself a “feminine” body through plastic surgery? kinda ruins the fantasy doesn’t it? she sure as hell looks more “feminine” now than me and most of my female friends from the waist down. courtney conquer wrote an amazing instagram post about this, check that & her work out, she’s a total badass.) 
that’s what happened but then it got EVEN WORSE when she completely refused to listen to anyone who pointed out she was wrong, no matter how politely. instead of listening and trying to understand why her fans were upset, she’s out there on twitter liking sassy responses from her sheep headed stans to said fans. very mature, trinity:

(i’ll be sure to do just that, as my queen doesn’t invalidate anyone’s drag, isn’t transphobic garbage and is just a nice person all around who doesn’t support bullying and shit). 
so there’s that. 
moral of this post:

  • i love our top 3 this season - peppermint, shea coulee and sasha velour
  • it’s so cool that none of our top 3 is a cis white man isn’t it?
  • black trans women such as peppermint started drag and it was never meant to be about cis white men 
  • peppermint rocks the fuck out of her lil blonde buzz cut and looks cute as hell with short hair

notreallygoodatcommingupwithname  asked:

"No. A lot of people play Modern. We have no plans of eliminating the format." Then why are we seeing Wizards moving away from the format in regards to major events? Without this exposure competitive formats grow stale and people/shops lose interest. Extended followed a similar path, that is why people are worried.

We have zero high level Commander events and the format is thriving. The two aren’t necessarily linked. I’ve seen the numbers. Modern is doing just fine.

The high profile events are considered marketing. They are literally paid for with marketing dollars. So one of the responsibilities of say Pro Tour Aether Revolt is to get players excited for Aether Revolt. It’s a lot harder to do that playing a format where only a handful of Aether Revolt cards might show up. (Also, the Pros have told us they prefer formats with more opportunity to innovate which is harder with larger, less evolving formats.)

The reason we focused more on Modern for a while was to help get awareness for it as a new format, to help build it up and get it going. But it’s done that. It’s no longer a young, struggling format. It’s a mature format with many fans and a lot of play. It’s going to be just fine without a major spotlight on it.

anonymous asked:

I'm not even a Exol but I really really think kaisoo is real I mean no other otp is real as them (I'm huge jongin stan only though I love him so much) much support to kaisoo ❤️❤️ but how are antis blind like srsly these two keep getting more and more real their going strong #relationshipgoals #kaisoo it's sad to see people always hating on kaisoo 😒

i think it’s safe to say that there are quite alot of non exols who acknowledge KD rs. personally i’ve seen quite alot. kinda off topic but i also see there are quite alot of fanboys (ksoo’s fanboys–ksoo really has a lot of fanboys even some of his fansites run by fanboys) who ship kaisoo (ship as in support… like, it’s not just a kpop otp ship to them. they also know think KD is dating real).

antis are in denial that’s why they don’t see it. all they’re capable of doing is bitching about KD shippers openly to show off about how “good/mature” they are as fans (cuz getting validation from strangers online is very important uwu). 

their arguments are mostly about “why do I think/feel shipping KD as a legit couple is wrong!” which is…well, boring and it doesn’t contain much of logical explanation that could debunk KD (and even when they try to give “logical” explanation, it makes no sense whatsoever, like, there’s always a “hole” in their “story/narrative”). so let’s not give them any attention cuz it’s basically what they want. if you see them hating, just block them lol. 

anyways, i dont think we should feel sad that many hating on KD bc at the same time there are more people who love/adore/support them. clearly, KD appreciate it bc there have been so many times they showed positive reactions (ex; smile, intense staring etc) whenever fans show them KD banner/sign. 

and you’re right! KD is definitely a relationship goal i actually envy them and they’re definitely becoming ~stronger~ lol tbh i dont think they care anymore about keeping it subtle but that’s just me personally.

sorry for late reply btw. 

Rumours about YoungMin

This will be kinda long cause I seriously just need a place to be vent. So if you dont know theres a rumour going around that YoungMin has a girlfriend which BRAND NEW MUSIC stated is not true. However, apparently  due to how quick ? they responded, people are becoming suspicious and is saying they’re trying to hide it. 

There’s apparently some  people (probably trolls or immature kids) who was saying not to vote for a kid with a girlfriend or who has bad skin (talkin bout his acne) on pann which is seriously just plain rude and immature.

First of all, its not a crime to have a girlfriend and I guarantee that more than half of those trainees in Produce 101 has been or is currently in a relationship. Think about it, they’re at that age, heck I had my first bf when I was 14.  (but i forgot not all fans are mature enough to take in these so called “dating scandals”)

Second of all, IF YOU HAVE BEEN WATCHING PRODUCE 101 ALL THESE TIME, YOU’D KNOW YOUNGMIN WORKED REALLY HARD AND IS AN ANGEL (not being biased at all). He was previously ranked at 27th but managed to jump to 12th place just in the recent ranking & is expected to get in top 11. 

I swear I HOPE YALL DONT DROP YOUNGMIN and make his rank drop  just because of this. You’ll be wasting all what he had accomplished throughout the show & make the sacrifices he made and struggles he went through turn out as a big joke. 

Please I seriously don’t want  to  see him lose that precious smile of his (it was rumoured he was smilling really big and practiced even harder when he heard he was ranked 12th) . Also this talented  and kind individual just doesn’t deserve being bashed.


(btw i used apparently a lot because it means its unconfirmed, i just heard it from people < whom i trust)

Normani on 3.21 - 3.49, Lauren on 4.37 - 5.55, and Ally on 6.37 - 7.38

So….. Basically, here they are trying to imply that all of this time they are “puppets” or “slaves” who finally got the right after the trademark is transferred. Like they said, “You can’t do this, you can’t do that”. I think this is them showing that they finally own their brand. But, you also see how they describe it. No wonder our girls’ smiles subside as they got bigger and more famous. They also try to tell us that this industry damages their mentality as an artist since these young women are exploited as if they are robots and not human.

These are the lyrics Messy that’s interesting for me.

While the others are like their minds: messy lyrics. Basically they are just saying that they can be messy and they can get crazy sometimes. We all know these girls are goofy, cheerful, etc. but at the same time they are emotional as heck. Dinah and Ally are crybabies. Lauren.. well, we all know she is the most emotional one, together with Camila. Normani is the strongest. But she is always silent when she is sad. We don’t know what happened behind close doors but the lyrics in Lauren’s part pretty much explains all of them. They are trying to tell us with no filter. But, there is always a filter, the NDA.

8.15 - 8.52

If you still don’t realize it, actually these girls are like the source of income for other artists. Even if they would like to have a collab with big rappers like Nicki Minaj, I think they are meant to bring rappers to the surface and for people to recognize their existence. Look at Ty Dolla Sign now. I would NOT exclude Camila as well as I love all 5 of them. Look at MGK now. I mean, let’s admit it, collaborating with Fifth Harmony or Camila will get you bigger fanbase, increasing charts, popularity, and of course more money cause we work our butts off to vote for their awards, request for their song in the radios, buy their songs on iTunes, and stream their songs like crazy.

14.56 - 15.34

This is unimportant but…. no more drama please. At least give us a break for a month. It’s really tiring!!!

15.58 - 16.45

Back with the media training. It was awkward already. But, the answer to the next question surprised me!!!!!!!!

16.58 - 18.00

Interviewer: 3 albums in less than 3 years. What makes you guys keep going? That’s a schedule that you guys are keeping

Lauren: Uh… A CONTRACT

Dinah, Normani, and Ally: *awkwardly laughing*

Lauren: I’m just kidding. No I’m not *laughs*

LOL!!!! Laureeeeeenn!! SAVAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hahahahahahahahah

Lauren and Normani wow….. The shade is real.. Hahahahaaha

@the14thbaker Is this the video that you mean?

18. 44 - 18.51

Lauren: Wait.. Can we all acknowledge? She said the least I can do is do a split. BITCH!!!

Lol!!!!!! Lauren is SAVAGE!!!!

22.48 - 23.45

Fan: Hoq have you guys used technologies as a platform for your music and also to connect with fans?

Look at Lauren’s answers

Lauren: We just use it as positively as we can. So I hope next time you know when the real them are tweeting and the it’s the label that’s tweeting

25.23 - 27.48

Okay to all of your OT4 stans and other -izers who can’t respect the other girls, LISTEN TO WHAT THEY SAY IN THIS PART. And I wanna say something: if you idolize them and if you think they are your role models, then reflect them. They spread nothing but love. All those negativities you see or hear out there don’t come out of them. It’s their PR and their Management. So, don’t be a hypocrite who idolize these girls but then hate on others and even spread negativities and bringing the other girls down, especially among these girls. Cause this fandom has enough split and don’t make it worse with what you are doing. Be mature. We, as fans, are better than that.

why i mostly hate shipping/septiplier rant

this thought has been lurking around in the back of my mind on some things. it’s not like i’m trying to forget about it, but i just want to put something in for a once. also, don’t mistake the title ‘why i mostly hate shipping’ as ‘i hate shipping’. shipping is great and fun, but recently since the whole rant about septiplier, a lot of things have been going through my head, so i just want to clear this up.

last year, one of my friends was fangirling in lunch about the ship, which is of course, septiplier. i didn’t know anything else about the ship at the time, until i searched up what it actually was. the ship septiplier is a ship between the youtubers jacksepticeye and markiplier and the fandom was pretty much increasing at the time. and just like any other fangirl/boy, there’s that cliche thing: 'and then she found a new ship’.

septiplier has been my otp ranked first in the list of ships i have in my notes (pls don’t judge my habits) and was pretty much something i would watch on youtube everyday after to school to rewind and relax. it was great. i’d love to thank my best friend for letting me search up and find these two people who put some positivity into other people’s lives as well as mine and theirs.

now the thing was, my best friend who ships septiplier REAL hard, is one of the fangirls that likes to rage over other ships and claim them to be dead, as well making references every time we would talk and text each other. i was like that too before the whole rant, and from the looks of it i probably raged over the ships harder (not that i want this to be exaggerated or showy about this or anything) than her. we were both happy at the time and we had no problems with the ship.

that was until that one night at 12 or 1am when i was going through the septiplier tag on tumblr. (yes that was my night routine 2016 in a nutshell)

when i’m on tumblr, i rarely read the long passage of texts and fanfics, so i just skip them, but then i decided to read one about septiplier, knowing very little that it was going to change the way i looked at septiplier. it was a rant. it was telling the fans to stop writing smut and porn for the ship since it broke mark and jack’s relationship, and that one sentence which freaked me out: 'septiplier could be dead’. i came across more posts like this and i was starting to feel a bit hopeless as i was laying in my bed.

i took some screenshots and showed them to my best friend at school secretly, but it seemed like she just didn’t care. all i remember was that after giving my phone back to me and telling me 'ok’. just that. ok. i felt like i couldn’t trust her with this kind of news anymore, and she was the only friend in our group who only knows and ships septiplier. i bummed me and pissed me off. i kept on reading more posts for a few weeks and that’s when things started to crumble.

i began to ask questions to myself: what will happen to the ship? why isn’t it happening this year again? have mark and jack seen this post? i began t have doubts. doubts that fogged my persepective of septiplier and the way i thought of it. i changed the way i shipped people. it was ok. i was starting to forget about the ship, but there was one thing…

Jacksepticeye’s Q&A livestream.

i watched a bit of the stream throughout and had the usual reactions, freaking out, smiling and listening attentively with a stoic expression on my face. a few days later i went on the septiplier tag again and found a post with a gif of jack from the livestream with a caption saying 'I think everybody involved already knows at this point.’ I shrugged as clicked on the clip to watch, little did i know that this clip was going to haunt me for the rest of my life when i think about septiplier. he explained how the ship came from great and cute, to obnoxious and over-the-top. he and mark legitimately told the mature-writer/artist fans to stop writing and drawing smut/and porn, but nope. they were ignorant of their advice and did it anyway.

Jack’s analogy: 'Everybody was having a great time in the swimming pool, and then someone just had to take a big ol’ shit. Jus a big old shit that nobody wanted, so everybody left.’

The most heartbreaking and saddest thing that I have to mask over is that he even claimed that Septiplier is dead. Also saying that we have to grow up, and we can still ship it. I became so frustrated and confused. How can we still ship Septiplier if the fans who ship it hear from the person in real life say that it’s dead?! I don’t get how we can handle this after him saying it’s officially dead. I agreed at this point to the least, but hearing that broke me in two. I mean:

What happened?

Where did the 2015-2016 Septiplier go?

Here is some news I’ve been seeing on Tumblr and other social media for the past few months:
- Septiplier is dead
- Jack and Mark’s friendship is ruined
- Rants
- The balance between the hate and respect for Amy and Signe
- More rants
- Other ships 'taking over’
- 'Don’t take Tythan/Jelix too far like Septiplier’
- A few hate posts for other ships
- fanfics fluff or smut/fanfic ideas
- art
- the cartoonjunkie incident

i just want to put a message out here.

please be a true shipper and fangirl/boy by respecting other ships. we all have out fantasies and expectations which are addicting to write about, but we must learn to control them. for those of you who rage, please DON’T take anything else too far. it’s also tempting, but again we must learn how to control ourselves. show respect. show respect for ships like septiishu, amyplier, crankiplier and jelix/septicpie. DON’T EVEN THINK about posting any smutty fanfic or art, because youtubers are a part of us too. we don’t want to feel uncomfortable by seeing someone draw us and someone fucking each other; so it’s never okay.

i hope this rant has convinced some of you out there reading this, and if you didn’t really like reading this, i don’t give any fucks about your opinion of this right now. i just want to thank you for reading another boring, weak rant. :)

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feel free to comment down your opinions if you’re still reading this :P i’m just a 13 year old girl posting her third post on tumblr lol

You know what I've decided?

It’s not fandoms that are the problem, its young fandoms.

And I don’t mean all new fandoms are terrible and that older fandoms have never had discourse, because that’s utter baloney. I mean, the doctor who fandom had huge fallouts over Rose leaving and tennant vs Smith when the 11th doctor came around, there were huge turf wars between hetalia and homestuck, The zutara vs kataang ship war is legendary, and even though I wasn’t in the fandom at the time, I know there was plenty of arguments over Edvy, Royed, and Edwin back when the original series came out. And a lot of them still have problems and always will. That’s what happens when you get a large group of people together to talk about a topic: discourse.
But the thing is, those fandoms don’t have as BIG of problems as they used to. I rarely hear about homestuck vs Hetalia anymore and the brotherhood vs 2003 fma argument has mostly boiled down to people arguing over what new members of the fandom should watch first(mostly). And although there is always going to be disagreement when an actor leaves on Doctor who, the time span of “Oh god this new person is going to ruin doctor who” has gotten shorter and shorter. Why? Because the fanbase matured. Literally. The fans that started watching doctor who as 12 and 13 year olds in 2005 are now well out of college. Fullmetal alchemist as an anime has been around for almost fifteen years. The fan base has grown up and gotten used to itself a little. Fandoms like Steven universe, the Voltron reboot, Undertale, and similar fandoms have been around for less than five years and for some, haven’t really been popular for half that time. The fanbases are mostly very young individuals who are still learning to be confident in who they are and use the shows as a way to express themselves. They haven’t let it really sink in yet that uniformity isn’t the only way to be happy in a fandom, and that not everyone has to agree with their head canons or ship their ships.
These fandoms aren’t toxic and need to just disappear. They literally just need to grow up. Admittedly, I don’t like Royed. It bothers me when I see romantic royed. Its ok not to like something, and a few years ago, I might have been really upset about it. But I’ve grow. I’ve accepted that other people ship it, and that’s that. Them enjoying it isn’t an attack directed at my ships or headcanons. It’s ok to be different. That’s just something people have to learn on their own in their own time. One day half tose kids in those newer fandoms are going to look back and think, “Wow. That was really, really petty of me to argue over a ship with this person. I feel stupid now because in the long run, it doesn’t matter. I still don’t like this ship, but it wasn’t worth that gigantic argument.”
Now does that excuse things like people sending death threats or telling people their a piece of shit over something as stupid as ships? No. Never. Keep calling out those people on their actions, because that is harassment and bullying, plain and simple. But don’t feel like its always going to be this way. Things will fizzle out eventually and people will grow up.

Oh God! too much drama is going on!! can’t people just overlook the hateful comments & hateful articles about Eric?!!
Can’t we just continue on cheering for him & Shinhwa like we’re used to?!!
Don’t ever let the haters have the upper hand. Let us -true fans- be the last fans standing!
& some fans -not haters- asking Eric to leave Shinhwa?!!!! seriously?!!! I understand ur anger, guys, but then, seems like you don’t know Eric well!
lol Eric will NEVER leave Shinhwa! if he wanted to leave Shinhwa, he’d have done that loooong time ago! But he didn’t and WON’T.
He’s a grownup man now, who already spent most of his life with his group,, which is not just a group to him, it’s his family!! all the members are his brothers, like he himself said!
Eric will forever be Shinhwa’s leader .. Eric will forever be Shinhwa’s otaku .. Eric will forever be the pillar of Shinhwa .. the big brother to all the members .. always have, always will ..
He, simply, will never ever leave!! so don’t waste ur time & stop asking him to do so lol
& again, we’ve always been a peaceful fandom, most of us are mature fans,, so when such situations happen, let us have the upper hand & be mature in our way of handling the situations .. Eric needs our support, then let’s shower him with more love & support, & IGNORE hateful comments that’ll lead to nothing except for bringing us down & us falling apart.
Time will heal everything .. meanwhile, let’s be the last fans standing.
Spread only love about Eric & Shinhwa plz. And MOVE ON! 

pancake-shmamcake  asked:

I haven't been keeping up with your comics but I'm back to appriciate them some more; all I gotta ask is who in the world is Citron and why did their parents name them lemon

PFPPTT

Citrón was the original fourth member of Clementine’s old team. What happened to him when the team broke up? Who knows? Maybe he’ll be back again someday. And he’s named lemon because… Keeping the fruit theme and his original birth color is yellow and totally because “lemon” is a word used for mature fan fiction *bricked*

Honestly, I’ll talk more about him soon and why he even exists in the first place when I post more art of him