do they.... do they say "love ya" to each other a lot?????
Johnny said it once to Peter sarcastically in the early days (Marvel Team Up #1) and said “we all love you” in his holograph will (Amazing Spider-Man #657) but this is the first time I’ve seen Peter say it! :D I thought the casual way they do it – plus the hug! – made it seem like it’s a pretty normal thing for him to say, though.
Related: I’m really delighted that Peter apparently paid for lunch and is letting Johnny pick the movie.
I want to hear the exact moment you think Johnny fell in love with Peter
Okay, so the issue in question is Marvel Team Up #1, from March of 1972. This is before Gwen dies, so Peter is roughly 19, and Johnny is 19 or 20. It’s a fun Christmas team up issue where they’re flying around in the Fantasticar, trying to find the Sandman and sniping at each other. (The Marvel wikia also lists it as the first appearance of Misty Knight.)
Until they find Sandman and end up trapped, tied back to back in a water tower, in a way where only one of them can keep their head above the water at a time:
In this set-up, obviously, they can’t communicate with each other. I love this line: “I… don’t get it. Spidey’s a lot stronger than I am. Why’s he staying down so long when he could…”
Ignoring Johnny’s obvious strength kink – Johnny expects that Peter, the stronger of the two of them, would force Johnny under so he can breathe, but that’s not what Peter does, instead choosing to stay down long enough for Johnny’s face try dry off enough to flame on, while trusting that Johnny will figure out his plan without any ability to communicate between the two of them. For Johnny, who views himself as the stupid member of the Fantastic Four, that level of trust in him and his ability to think on the fly is huge. Peter staying under the water long enough to give Johnny the chance to save them is huge.
I don’t think this was like, a moment where Johnny was like “oh my god, I’m in love with him.” But I think it was the first spark for the fire, if you’ll forgive the pun.
Johnny flying off at the end with the emphasis on how good he feels even unintentionally mirrors how Johnny tends to act at the start of a relationship:
Anyway Marvel Team Up #1 is the moment I tend to root the beginning of Johnny’s romantic love for Peter unless for the purpose of a fic some other moment works better.
MARVEL TEAM-UP Vol. 1, No. 104, April 1981 Starring The Hulk and Ka-Zar “Modok Must Triumph” Script Roger McKenzie, Pencils Jerry Bingham Inks Mike Esposito, Letters Diana Albers Colors Christie Scheele, Editor Denny O'Neil
Comic book artists don’t often put much thought into what street clothes look like, so the answer to this ends up being, ‘well, whatever.’
Or, more specifically, well, whatever reflects the period. I know nothing about the fashion of any era, and anyone hoping I’ll comment on it knowingly is outta luck. I do, however, know all about Wanda’s history, so, in lieu of summing up her style, which she doesn’t really have, I’m going to go through various periods and post some examples.
This is a long post. It’s five decades of history and no quick answers.
from Avengers Vol. 1 #16 & 18
In the 60′s, Wanda tends towards “furry” and “fancy.” She’s a celebrity who likes going to the theater. There are luxurious fur coats, but there’s also whatever that matching pink vest/pant combo above is (with a white undershirt?). Mainly, she wears generic, nondescript shirt-and-skirt outfits or dresses. The color palette isn’t too distinct either. Lots of pink, orange, red, brown, white. She’s not walking around in red red red all day, but she’s not wearing a whole range that includes blue or green either.