MYTH LOKI-PSA!!! ( written with one hand at 5:30 in the morning)
Loki ( or rather Loke/Loptr/Hveðrungr) as in the original Norse god, was many things you might not know. Here are a few of them:
-gender fluid -pansexual -a mother -intersex
These things are not tumblr inventions, or Marvel inventions (both is fine on it,s own and I am a huge marvel fan, and I love tumblr etc). Marvel doesn’t acknowledge most of these points. This is the original mythology/Edda Loki.
Gender fluid: He loved to transform and transcend between genders. He also practiced magic, which was seen as ergi/womanly ( Ergi might loosely translate as “gay”, in the sense of being “unmanly -__- . though Odin did the same and used magic, he wasn’t seen as ergi ). There are different accounts of him walking around as a woman for pure fun, enjoying male attention etc. - transformation was very much his "thing”!
Pansexual: Loki had a lot of sex, with any kind of living being ( and trees, and rocks 👌🏻). He didn’t care if it was man, woman or in between or neither. He was known to be sexually hungry, adventurous and daring. He had several affairs, casual sex and two devoted wives, over the cause of his life.
A mother: Loki fathers children, but he also gave birth to officially one, but potentially more. In different versions of the myths, he might have given birth to a few of his monster children ( he is known as the “mother of monsters”). They are most commonly told to be his giant wives children, but there are very old untranslated poems and stories where he is giving birth to a few of them. While that is debatable, he did birth Sleipnir the horse. While people try to say Loki was raped by the stallion, the original Prosa Edda and early poems actually never say he didn’t enjoy being a female horse or the interaction with the stallion. It’s said that him sand the stallion had “such dealings” that he fell pregnant. That’s open to interpretation in my opinion. He wasn’t “raped by a horse”, he was a female horse himself at that point. If you see Loki as a cis male, it might feel odd to think he might not dislike what happens with the stallion. But if you know Loki was gender fluid and sexually very adventures, it’s suddenly a lot less weird or unimaginable. He might not have planned for that encounter, because he only wanted to distract the horse, but there is no real statement that he totally hated everything that happened. I mean, being in a mare-mindset and all? BUT it’s all up to personal opinion, and it’s fine to believe one thing or the other.
Intersex: Loki as a giant ( or half giant) was most likely intersex. The Jotnar of Jotunheimr were giants known to have both male and female genitalia, according to many versions of north mythology ( not just the Edda, but other myths and retellings too). They birthed an sired children alike, so when speaking of Lokis mother or father, it doesn’t mean them being male or female, rather if they had given birth to him or not. There are different giants in the Edda with strikter gender presentation. But when it comes to the Jotuns/Jotnar of Jotunheimr, they were intersexual beings. There are different versions of Lokis origin ( we ignore marvels silly attempt to make him Odins adopted son. They were blood brothers!), in some he is presented as a half-Jotun, in other just as a normal giant. But half or full-giant, he was most likely just as intersexual as the other giants in the myths. Most likely!
These are some points people might not know about him. I researched a lot over the years, even talked to a danish Loki-expert who works with Viking museums in Denmark and Sweden. If you never heard of these things about him, please don’t just disregard these details about Loki and his rich history. It’s what MAKES him Loki.
Loki is a character that’s very often debated in depth, to the point where some people even debate if he was truly a Norse god, or if he was later written into the Edda by Christian translators to create a negative character like the devil/Lucifer. Or if he was real, but twisted to appear in a more negative light. ( I chose to believe he was an original character in the myths/religion of the Vikings, not a Christian invention ) But no matter what or who Loki was ( or is), he sure wasn’t a typical god. And I love that! Got more cool Loki-facts? Please share!!!!! . . . . . . . P.S. Excuse typos, or that I didn’t post sources. This was a passion-post. Sourcing all the research I did for over 6 years, back before 2011, mostly offline , with experts/professors, as well as online, would mean I have to find really old links, scan books and articles I don’t have near me and call back people. HOWEVER, all this is 100% based on actual sources and not on tumblr or fan-canons or Marvel. I’d like to actually turn this into an article/master post or at best a video with sources and maybe even experts writing stuff for it. If anyone is interested in making this a group project - I have opened a Facebook research group for it! please join! Facebook. com/ groups/ 255763984909514/
P.P.S. Please feel free to add to this, or correct anything you feel was left out or presented incorrectly (if you DO please SOURCE your claims!). I mean no offence to anyone with this post, it was written out of love for the subject. I don’t mean to offend anyone believing otherwise, or like whatever religion etc. But this is my religion too, and I identify strongly with Loki because of all these facts that make him so appealing to. Also just to note, I am aware that Loki isn’t like “a cinnamon roll” or “a cute bae” that needs saving, etc. I don’t try to make him look good or use him for my personal agenda. This is my personal inclusion from years of research. I want to source all my claims, but for that I need time. again, if you have sources for other cool facts, or for the things I’ve stated, please share share share!
You know, for many years, Thor - the Marvel character, not the mythological figure - was considered to be unfilmable on account of being too fundamentally ridiculous for moviegoing audiences to accept.
And to be 100% honest, this wasn’t an entirely unreasonable belief. I mean, he’s the Prince of the Magic Space Vikings. There’s only so much you can do to bring that down to Earth!
Two headline movies are a pretty effective counterargument to that notion, but they did end up toning down both the character and the milieu. What we’ve seen on screen thus far represents the idea of Marvel’s Thor fairly well, but there’s been a lot of fudging the details to make the whole thing substantially less gonzo than its printed counterpart.
So imagine my surprise when I clicked through to the new trailer for Thor: Ragnarok and was immediately confronted with Jeff Goldblum in a gold lamé vest and metallic blue eyeliner.
I’m not going to lie, my first thought was basically: “Hold on, they’re not actually going to… are they?”
By the end of the trailer, that suspicion was all but confirmed.
I just wanted to mention something that I noticed in the new trailer that really made me happy
In the scene where Hela attacks Asgard we see a legion of Einherjar, Odin’s personal army made up of the soul’s of the honorable dead, confronting her
The thing I noticed in particular about this scene was that the design on the capes of the Einherjar warriors is the traditional Norse symbol know as the Valknut
The Valknut is a symbol closely tied to Odin with connotations associated with death, magic, and the number 9, an important number in Norse Mythology where it is related to the Nine Realms, the nine days Odin hung on the tree, etc. Here the number 9 is represented in the nine different points of the interconnecting triangles
Now what I felt was so significant and important about the inclusion of this symbol was that, due to the fact that in recent years it has been adapted and perverted by different hate groups such as Neo-Nazis and others, the Valknut has come to be associated with white supremacy and racism, poisonous ideologies that have nothing to do with Old Norse culture and belief
But now we have the Valknut being used in a movie based off Norse Mythology where the casting is diverse and inclusive A movie where a black woman is playing a character called THE Valkyrie
not A Valkyrie…THE VALKYRIE!!!
And where one of the chief gods, Heimdall, is played by none other than Idris fucking Elba!!!
All of this is just to say that I am very happy to see things such as the Valknut being reclaimed from hate groups who had no right to them in the first place and now being used in media that pushes for inclusiveness and equality! It may seem like a little thing, but I think the meaning behind it is something important to point out
Summary:Greek mythology!AU. James Barnes is the most feared man of the world. Mortals know him as Hades, God of the Underworld. You are a goddess yourself mortals call Persephone but you’re still scared of James. When Zeus and Demeter betroth you to Hades, you are furious. But you also can’t deny you’re drawn to the dark, attractive god. Maybe he’s not what he seems. What better person than you to look behind his facade, his wife.
A/N: Hey loves! I tagged everyone who voted for this story. Let me know if you want to be untagged and of course if you want to be put on the taglist. Also this first chapter is to introduce the twelve Olympian Gods, so you have an idea which of the Avengers is supposed to be which god of the Greek mythology. xoxo Debbie ♥
Pairing: AU!Bucky Barnes (Hades) x Reader (Persephone)
Gold. Gold and white polished marble was all around me. Today was my first time on Mount Olympus. I had a feeling about the home of the twelve most powerful gods would be pretentious, but this even outweighed my imagination. The great hall, where the councils were held, was enormous.
In the middle of the half circle stood the biggest and most pompous marble throne. Right next to the throne from our king of the gods, Zeus, was the one for his wife Hera. On each side of those two thrones were five smaller ones for the remaining gods. All of the twelve Olympians were currently sitting on their own rightful white polished marble throne.
The roof of the great hall was pillared, decorated with the symbols of the gods hewn in the white stone. The giant columns were embraced by hundreds of sky blue and golden flowers, making the whole hall shine heavenly and tempting. Floating in the air were thousands of lights in bulb shape, illuminating the hall, and casting slight shadows on each of our faces.
I was standing beside my mother, Maria, formally known as Demeter, who was talking quite animatedly with Athena beside her. I knew Athena all my life, which gave me the privilege to address her as Sharon. Due to respect we all spoke to one another with our godly titles and even more so at official congregations.
Like anticipated we were waiting for Zeus and Hera, our king and queen to appear for the meeting to begin. So far I still had no clue why I should attend this gathering in the first place. Some of the gods, like the twins Artemis and Apollo almost looked apologetically in my direction more than once. Others like Ares, Hermes and Dionysos sent me suggestive winks from time to time. Arrogant idiots!
I heard of their escapades, more times than I could count, and I clearly had no intention of being part of a single one. Not now, not in the future. My gaze wandered to Aphrodite and Hephaestus who had only eyes for the other. I was wondering if that was because of them being newly-weds or the fact Natasha was the goddess of love.
They were obviously happy in love and I caught myself wishing for someone to look at me with the same amount of devotion as Bruce looked at Natasha. My thoughts were interrupted when Tony and Pepper at last decided to show up. My father sent me an unnoticed smile before greeting everyone. Normally my father would hold a long speech and the fact he got straight to the point made me kind of nervous.
The more when he also sent me side glances over and over again. “The reason I asked you all to come, can simply be said with a single word. Hades.” To say my curiosity was awoken would be an understatement. I knew not much of Hades, brooding and dusky god of the dead and king of the underworld. On very rare occasions he would be invited on Mount Olympus, but his empire was the underworld and not the world above.
Only on very rare occasions Hades itself would show up on Mount Olympus, to take part at the meetings. The more I was paying attention to the next words my father spoke.
“We all know it’s nothing special or uncommon my dear brother stays secluded in the underworld. But now some worrying news got to me and my brother Poseidon’s attention.” Tony nodded at Steve, my uncle and god of the seas, who took it upon himself to continue.
“I spare you all the details, but the underworld is slowly falling apart. Hades lives more reclusive than ever. He ignores his duties of ruling the underworld and taking care of the souls. We came to the conclusion what Hades needs is a companion, someone who wakens his interest, helps him rule his empire and brings him back to live his life as the king he is. It is super important to make sure the balance of the worlds is ensured. We quickly came to the only solution. Hades has to get married.”
After this statement everyone started to speak loudly with his neighbor. The god of war, Thor, formally known as Ares was the loudest to be heard, with his loud booming voice.
“Who possibly would want to marry Hades willingly?” He said mocking. Zeus once again rise to speak. “Luckily we already found the perfect woman to become his wife. There couldn’t be someone more fitting. I’m proud to announce my lovely daughter Persephone will be marrying Hades.”
No way! I was shocked, unable to form words or even process what just happened. I could feel all eyes in the hall on me. I took a deep breath, to wake up from my surprised state.
“Are you kidding me right now?! No way I’m becoming the wife of Hades! Let alone my uncle!” I gritted out through my teeth, anger clearly evident in my hysteric voice.
“You know my brothers and I were created not made. You’re not blood related. It’s already decided. You will go right after this meeting. But you can’t let Hades know about our decision, he can never know about our arrangement. If he knew he would be grievously hurt in his pride. It has to be his free will to marry you. You need to make him fall in love with you. You understand?”
“But …” At my attempt to reason with my father his commanding voice, like I called it, came out.
“[Y/N]! I am your father! And I am your king! You will do as I say! When the meeting is over you will go to the underworld, you will make Hades fall in love with you and you will become his wife! End of the story!” He took a small dramatic pause.
“Do you even have an idea how important it is to remain the balance?! You are the most logical choice. As goddess of spring who breathes life into dead flowers and creates light, you’re ideal to bring some stability in the underworld. There can be no life without death and no death without life.”
I knew that what my father wants, my father gets. There would be absolutely no way I could change his mind now. Slowly but surely I had to get used to my new duty to protect the equilibrium of the worlds. I inevitably would have to make Hades fall in love with me.
So today I saw Thor Ragnarok and it was amazing! It was genuinely a fun film without trying and brought back the nostalgia of “good” marvel films like Avengers Assemble and Guardians of the Galaxy.
This ramble will contain SPOILERS so go and see it first! It is an amazing film with a brilliant soundtrack, amazing cinematography and a wonderful story!
So because it has only just been released, not many people are discussing it so far so I thought I’d start with my observations.
I believe this story is about established identities and how they are torn away. We see this happen to all the main characters:
Odin is seen as all powerful by Thor and the Asguardians but that facade is torn away by himself and Loki revealing that he is really just a tired old man who misses his wife and sons (on another note, dem feels when Loki looks over in suprise when he says “sons” and that he was proud of his skills!)
Thor is the God of Thunder but when his hammer is torn from him he feels as though his whole identity is gone and nobody recognises him without it. He even doubts himself right up until the end when he becomes the “true all- father” (more about that later though!)
Loki’s identity as a villain is ripped from him and his tricks have become predictable for all, I mean, the Asgardians didn’t even look that suprised when it was revealed that he wasn’t Odin! His usual assumptions about what he and Thor are as brothers are also torn from him when he begins to see his own suffering and torment from others start to happen to Thor.
Bruce Banner has TWO WHOLE YEARS ripped from him and his relationship with the Hulk is all lies and deception. He begins to see that Bruce and the Hulk cannot fully exist whilst the other is there.
Valkyrie’s whole character is based in the self destruction of her original identity. Her drinking habits and her inability to cope with her PTSD completely oppose the ideals of the Valkyrie however her identity is recreated as an individual on her own terms rather than one that was created in bound oaths and honor.
Hela is trying to recreate her previous identity and show that to the world rather than adapting to her new world and situation, which is the main reason why she loses.
After these identities are shattered, the film follows the recreation of their true identities, their own personal Ragnarok if you will.
The ending of the film is extremely significant when discussing this.
Bruce gives up his identity in order to save the Asgardians despite knowing what would happen to him.
Thor physically sacrifices his eye and his own personal freedom to become the leader of the Asgardians.
Valkyrie gives up her comfort and relative safety in order to avenge or fallen comrades and lover.
Loki gives up his “villain” facade and accepts his faults despite endangering himself. For this reason I call loki the true hero because now his redemption arc is done. He has humility whilst being honest with himself- even suprising Thor when he reveals that he is no longer hiding behind his illusions and is there to support his brother and people. He unexpectedly risks everything to repair his mistake and become the hero he wanted the world to see. He does not demand the throne or power or even acknowledgement, just a place at his brothers side and the ability the fight for his people.
Whist the marvel universe draws upon Norse mythology for inspiration, I believe the result of the ending mirrors the real Ragnarok:
Loki is the cause of Ragnarok.
All the old Gods are wiped out aka their previous identities.
The surviving gods are siblings and go on to rebuild the world from the ashes, the Ashes of old Asgard.
It then circles back to the Norse creation legend that “Odin” and “Loki” are brothers by blood pact and they simply appear one day and have a close relationship.
Who does Thor become in the end? The true All- father, the ideal Odin.
Who does Loki become in the end? The true trickster, not hated or a villain, but loved, not by all, but the few that witnessed his true heroism. The Asgardians become Lokeans.
This is just my interpretation of the film, I’d love to hear what you guys have to say too!
summary: Pixies in the forest. || hades!bucky x persephone!reader || mythology au
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