mario montoya

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A F1 top driver will always be better than the US series boys. History proves that. Only very few US race series boys have been competitive in F1. Oval racing is much less demanding in versatility. You must be a much more complete driver in every aspect to be on top in F1. That’s simply a fact as it is a fact that female driver can’t be as complete as it’s necessary to be succesful in F1 or oval racing. It’s quite simple a fact of evolution that stands against women.

You obviously missed the point of this post, so let me repeat myself: You cannot compare a driver’s ability between Formula One and NASCAR/IndyCar. It’s unfair, it’d be like comparing a golfer’s ability to a football player’s ability. Formula One is about racing the track, NASCAR and IndyCar are all about racing other drivers. There’s a great difference of driving styles between drivers on both sides, as they go through different training commensurate with their respective sports. NASCAR and IndyCar are NOT stepping stones to Formula One, and there’s nothing about Formula One drivers that make them any better than NASCAR/IndyCar drivers, regardless of whatever historical reference says. Don’t you dare try to sell me your Formula One elitist bullshit.

Juan Pablo Montoya and Mario Andretti were both in American racing leagues before they started in Formula One. Montoya won more races in his rookie season of CART than he did in his entire Formula One career, along with the championship. Same with Andretti, he won more races (including the Indy 500) and more championships in USAC than he was ever going to in Formula One, before he actually started racing there full-time. My point in mentioning these two is that they were successful before they were top Formula One drivers, so Formula One experience is irrelevant.

And no, being a successful Formula One driver does not mean you’ll automatically be fantastic everywhere else. Juan Pablo Montoya spent more years in NASCAR than he did in Formula One, and yet in 255 starts at NASCAR’s top level he only won twice. Kimi Raikkonen made two NASCAR starts at Charlotte in Trucks and Xfinity; in both of those races he rode around midfield the entire time. Rubens Barrichello was a mediocre IndyCar driver at best. Jacques Villeneuve was generally a hazard in the handful of NASCAR starts he made, and because of that he never won a single race. Jackie Stewart, Nelson Piquet, Jochen Rindt, and Denny Hulme all made more than one attempt at the Indianapolis 500, but never won the race.

To balance that out, there are a handful of IndyCar drivers like Sebastien Bourdais and Michael Andretti who tried to make the jump to Formula One and just didn’t make out. The difference is you don’t often see many IndyCar drivers making the jump to Formula One (this is never the case for NASCAR), it’s usually the other way around. Besides, if being a Formula One driver automatically guaranteed you success anywhere else, Max Chilton, Alexander Rossi, Takuma Sato, and Esteban Gutierrez would be classing the field every week in IndyCar.

Oval tracks are versatile to their own merits. There’s a certain amount of technique involved that affects how you get around the whole track, and that varies depending on what kind of oval track it is. You need to find the perfect braking point going into the corner, you need to be aware of how much you’re turning into the corner and where the apex is, and you need to know the best point at which to roll back into the throttle and carry your momentum out of the corner. There are so many variables regarding all of these things that depend on the amount of banking, tire wear, and turn radius that make ovals unique to each other. Indy is unique because it’s a rectangular oval, so you can carry more momentum into the first corner and out of it onto the short chute, which in turn affects how you attack the second corner.

I will argue that Darlington Raceway is probably the most demanding oval track in the world – it’s shaped like an egg, so Turns 3 and 4 are tighter than Turns 1 and 2, which in turn affects the car’s handling. Combine this with steep banking and a narrow racing line, and you have a recipe for an extremely punishing racetrack that leaves little room for error. And having to negotiate 39 other cars relative to you makes racing here all the more difficult. Again, you can’t compare this to Formula One, because it’s a different kind of racing altogether.

And lastly, I didn’t say anything about women in motor racing, but what you just said made you sound very sexist. Motor racing is one of the few sports where the physical differences between men and women are totally inconsequential, because it’s not so much about physical strength as it is skill, mental wit, and the ability to make split-second decisions. There are chances for women to be successful in motor racing, but the problem is women have had a hard time making headway in a sport that has unfortunately been dominated by men for most of its existence.

Finally we’re entering a time where women have more opportunities to make it big in motor racing. For female drivers, Danica Patrick and Simona de Silvestro are some of the best-known names in the business right now, and the Force sisters have been very successful in NHRA over the past few years. Besides them, there are many promising female drivers that are up-and-coming: Macy Causey, Christina Nielsen, and Leilani Munter, to name a few. Hell, Sauber F1 has Tatiana Calderon signed as a test driver at the moment. There’ll be another successful women driver in racing, you just have to give her the chance.