For both: What do you think of the phrase "magic is just science that is not yet understood"?
“Oh, hey, I like that. I mean, we used to think pretty much everything was magic or the work of some kind of gods until we figured out how it really worked. Stands to reason it’s still the same today.”
“Magic is more sleight of hand and illusion; science is fixed.”
“You take the fun out of everything, you know that?”