Season 7 finale..... my thoughts
Honestly, I am a person who tries to see good in everything but even for a person like me, the finale fell flat. Especially in comparison to season 6 finale. The first half especially was boring, dry and a bit dull.
Jon doesn’t enquire after his siblings?? I mean like seriously. They don’t even show him talking to Brienne. The scene where the peace talks try to happen, even the demonstration of killing the wight scene was so dry.
I still don’t get why the invitation was sent only to winterfell. Where are the Lords and Ladies of the other houses??
Cersei asks for something very reasonable, for Jon, to stay neutral in this great war that he’s so hell bent upon fighting and getting everyone to unite and fight for, which is even the right thing to do. But since he’s already rushed in and bent the knee to D. Targ, he won’t lie about it. It was such a simple thing Cersei asks for. Let’s unite, Let’s not choose sides, Let’s deal with that after the war with the dead is over. I can’t see why Jon, who seems to be concerned about nothing more than fighting the NK, can’t see the simple logic of this ask?? Your people want you to stay independent, D. Targ has agreed to help you without asking you to bend the knee, Now Cersei is making the SAME F*****G offer, WHY WON’T HE STAY NEUTRAL??? GOD, it was frustrating!! I don’t see how a man who is stupid enough to not see the logic in this can play undercover agent?? LIKE REALLY!!
I don’t know if it’s just me, but like Cersei slayed every scene she was in. In her scene with Tyrion, both Lena and Peter were beyond awesome!! It was laughable that the only good thing Tyrion could say about his dragon queen was that she has good advisors to keep her worst impulses under check??? So the question is Who is she without her advisors?? Tyrion not rattling off her many titles or her goodness in front of Cersei could either be a politically smart move or really his own slow realisation that D. Targ is not the queen he thought she was.
ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT SCENES
Now to Jon and D’s scene in the dragon pit where she talks about how chaining the dragons was not such a smart move. They’re meant to be set free, according to her. Just like the dragon within her. She doesn’t plan to chain the dragons, the dragons whom were are told in this very episode don’t understand the difference between what’s theirs and what isn’t. Land, Livestock, children. This is very important, mind you!!
D. Targ: They were terrifying, extraordinary. They filled people with wonder and awe. And we locked them in here. They wasted away. They grew small and we grew smaller as well. We weren’t extraordinary without them. We were just like everyone else.
This very aptly reflects what D. Targ thinks. She’s nothing without her dragons. Her power comes from her dragons. Dragons who can never be fully controlled, dragons who had to be chained because they posed an equal threat to men, like the dead do, dragons whom D. targ will never be able to see wasted away. She thinks without her dragons, she’s ordinary just like everyone else. And she does not want to be everyone else. She likes being different, she likes the power her dragons give her. This was foreshadowing, in my opinion.
JON: You’re not like everyone else. And you’re family hasn’t seen it’s end. You’re still here.
This firstly reflects what Jon thinks about D. Targ. He has only seen her good side. He ‘thinks’ that she’s not like everyone else and that she has a good heart which may be true in a sense but everything else about her, including burning the tarlys is going to come back to bite him in the ass. Remember what else Jon said in this episode, “I forgive, what I CAN forgive.” Which also means I DON’t forgive what I can’t. Anyway, we’ll have to wait for it in season 8.
D. Targ: I can’t have children.
I know how many people think that bringing this up again definitely means that D is going to get pregnant. I agree, that this is what the show wants us to think. That the witch may not have been a reliable source of information. That somehow it is possible for D to have children. Most of the casual viewers who were watching this show along with me thought that D is going to get magially pregnant next season.
Which is why I got extremely suspicious of this scene, if you know what I mean. This is the scene in which the “continuation” of the Targaryen line is being discussed about. Is it really going to be through the incest route? The one that brought about the supposed downfall of house targ?? Could be, but I really have my doubts. Consider this, unknown to themselves, two targaryens are having a conversation about the succession of their dynasty. One who is capable of fathering children, one who is incapable of having children. One who thinks she is the rightful heir to the iron throne, one who is actually the heir to the iron throne. I still believe that Jon staring at Long claw and passing it on to his children with the STARK music playing in the background had to mean something.
@ Winterfell… (Which was by the way the most interesting plot line in the entire season)
Sansa: No, this is the way he is.. It is the way he’s always been. He’s never asked for my opinion, why would he start now?
Sansa is not happy that Jon’s bent the knee. She’s angry and she’s upset and she has every right to be. Jon should’ve asked for her opinion before he rushed into things and I think for the first time in season 8, we’re in for some real tension between Jon and Sansa, which is not going to be about power. Sansa is not going to like D. I can feel it in my bones.
LF: I can’t believe Jon would surrender the northern crown without consulting you.
Sansa: This is his writing. His signature. He pledged to fight for D. Targ. He’s bent the knee.
LF: I’ve heard gossip. That the Dragon queen is quite beautiful
Right here, we have the culmination of the Jon choking LF scene. There was no need for LF to mention this, just like there was no need for Jon to choke him. And Sansa’s next statement just proves that.
Sansa: What does that have to do with anything?
In her mind, Sansa has never even considered until now, Jon having a romantic alliance with D. It’s never crossed her mind, until now. This has been planted for her to ruminate upon, it’s deliberate.
LF: Jon is young and unmarried. D is young and unmarried.
Sansa: You thinks he wants to marry her?
LF: An alliance makes sense. Together they’ll be difficult to defeat.
Basically this scene show tells us, Sansa is unhappy with Jon bending the knee, she feels neglected by Jon and LF KNOWS that talking about another beautiful woman in whom Jon might want to marry will probably incense Sansa more. Because, it’s NOT betrayal of the north or House Stark that he uses as a ruse to un-name Jon as King in the north, it is a romantic+alliance with D.targ that he uses as a knife to twist into Sansa’s gut. THIS CAN’T BE IGNORED. This right here, is the hint LF drops before he pops off. Like I said earlier in a post, it will be subtle, not direct but it will be there!!
LF: Sometimes when I try to understand a person’s motives, I play a little game. I assume the worst. What’s the worst reason they could possibly have for saying what they say and doing what they do? Then I ask myself, how well does that reason explain what they say and what they do?
And here is the final explanation, that LF knows what both Sansa and Jon don’t, till now.
AND YESSSSSSSSSSS All the three Starklings causing LF’s death WAS AWWWWEEEEEESSSOOOOMME!! The only freaking scene in the entire episode which deserved a standing ovation. (Except maybe some more proof would have been better other than Bran just repeating LF’s words. Like has the north just accepted him as the official green seer three eyed-raven now??) So they were always in cahoots and of course we all knew what was going to happen when we saw Bran sitting with Sansa.
And Yeah when I see people gushing over the whole Arya and Sansa scene on the battlements…. Well yeah… of course that was going to happen!!
Personally, I did not like the scene between Bran and Sam. It was rushed and stupid. Why would Bran reveal Jon’s parentage to Sam and not to his sisters?? After keeping it a secret for this long, he decides to reveal this to SAM?? Like what’s even the logic in that.
Bran thinks Jon’s a Sand?? Coudn’t he have suspected there’s more to Jon’s parentage after the tower of Joy scene and done the whole jumping into the visions to check before itself?? And when did Sam find out about the whole Rhaegar marrying Lyanna Stark when we were explicitly meant to notice him ignoring Gilly mentioning that particular piece if information. Rhaegar looked eerily similar to Viserys and his son called his ‘daany’ in the previous episode… LOL!!
And now to the dreaded b0atb@ng. Lol!! I don’t know why I was dreading it. It didnt last for 5 seconds. COME ON GUYS!! TELLING US THAT JON IS THE RIGHTFUL HEIR TO THE IRON THRONE WHILE they were at it….. Doesn’t bode well for their relationship, one bit. And the he loved her and the she loved her bit?? That’s not about Jon and D. It’s a doomed romance, if that’s any foreshadowing anyway. Season 8, episode one, Jon is going to find out he’s Aegon Targaryen and what he does after that maybe told to us in a way of his conversation between Jon and Theon.
First of all this scene does establish one fact. That Jon and Theon are each other’s foil. Again, the whole talk about
“AN IMPOSSIBLE CHOICE THAT I HAD TO MAKE” - STARK OR GREYJOY
This is foreshadowing to Jon’s dilemma in season 8.
“AN IMPOSSIBLE CHOICE THAT JON WILL HAVE TO MAKE TO MAKE” - STARK OR TARGARYEN
Our father was more a father to you that yours ever was. (Ned was more a father to Jon, than Rhaegar ever was.) You betrayed him. Betrayed his memory. (which means Jon never will). But you never lost him (Neither has Jon) He’s a part of you. (Ned is a part of Jon)
You don’t need to choose. You’re a Greyjoy (Targaryen) And You’re a Stark.
Well tell me what you people think?? Because this is the same choice that’s going to be presented to Jon in the next season. Does this mean that in the end Jon will choose to be both? Accept his Stark and Targaryen heritage??
NO GHOST!! AND I HATE IT….
Overall, this was nothing compared to the season six finale. I’m more and more convinced that there’s nothing much to figure out about the NK and his army because we’ve made zero progress there. They’re cold and death the living will eventually defeat them which is obvious. SO it’s what happens later that really matters.
But it’s noteworthy that Sansa Stark is actually responsible or connected to for three of Game of throne’s worst villan’s death. Joffrey, Ramsey and Little finger. This is important people, very very important!!
Tell me what you think!!