Lucinda: So many people’s names to remember… all those ministers.
Jack: You don’t have to get perfect scores to make her happy.
Lucinda: It’s not her I want to make happy.
Jack: You know you deserve better. You’re a good person. Run while you still can. *Find the life you want to make happy.
Lucinda: I’m not going.
Jack: You want fame that much?
Lucinda: Not fame…
Jack: You can’t actually ever have me. You know that, too.
Lucinda: I know and that’s the horrible thing, isn’t it? Because I love you. I wish I didn’t but there it is. I’ve waited my whole life to feel it and now I do. There’s no good to come of it. I love you and I’m stuck so I’ll take the crumbs. I’ll even take your mother. So long as I’m near you.
Kings - Chapter One - Deleted Scene
With & without text
(* sounds weird but double checked by subtitle)
We deserve to actually have him because we love him.
I just watched the deleted scenes from the last disc for Kings, which includes this very crucial scene between Jack and Lucinda. Had this scene remained in the episodes, not only would it have completely changed our understanding of the relationship between these 2 characters, it also would’ve made Thomasina’s comment to Jack in the finale (“locked away with someone you can’t stand the sight of”) complete and utter BULLSHIT given how Jack is with Lucinda in this scene and the honesty that they have between them.
So, here it is, word for word:
Lucinda is in the kitchen, back to the camera, and Jack comes in, puts his hand briefly on her shoulder in comfort, then comes to stand next to her (for context, this scene comes right after Lucinda’s uncomfortable encounter with Rose)
Lucinda: "So many peoples names to remember, all those ministers…“
Jack: "You don’t have to get a perfect score to make her happy”
Lucinda: "Its not her I want to make happy"
Jack: "You know you deserve better. You’re a good person. Run while you still can. Find the life you want to be happy"
Lucinda: "I’m not going"
Jack: "You want fame that much?“
Lucinda: "Not fame”
Jack: "You can’t actually ever have me. You know that.“
Lucinda: "I know, thats the horrible thing, isn’t it? Because I love you. I wish I didn’t, but there it is. I’ve waited my whole life to feel it, and now I do, and there’s no good to come of it. I love you and I’m stuck. So I’ll take the crumbs, and I’ll even take your mother so long as I’m near you.
Jack looks at Lucinda with sympathy.
After seeing this scene, it changes everything I thought regarding the relationship between Jack and Lucinda. Well, not everything, because I never felt for one second that Jack "couldn’t stand the sight of her”. But this scene makes it perfectly clear that there is honesty and respect between Jack and Lucinda, and she knows perfectly well who he is. But she loves him, so she makes the CHOICE to stand by Jack, even when he warns her away, and tells her that she deserves better. Even when he specifically tells her that she’s “a good person”.
I’ve always felt when watching Kings that the finale of this show felt thrown together, and felt incongruous with the episodes that came before, particularly when it came to Jack. And I watch a scene like this, one that is really very poignant and honest, and one that actually shows Jack’s compassion for Lucinda, and I feel even more certain that massive last minute changes were made to the finale eps to wrap the show up.
And I also weep for the loss of the character depth and development that this scene showed for Lucinda.
summary: She doesn’t deserve this, really, and if Jack were any kind of good man he would feel worse about the fact that it’s his fault she’s in here with him.
notes: Takes place after the end of Kings. Could possibly be part of an expanded series/universe in the future. We’ll see if Jack Benjamin’s fate ever stops torturing me. Thanks very much to my beta Courtney!
They don’t talk much, for months. Lucinda tries at first, comments on the weather outside the windows they can’t open, or the food sent down already cut so they don’t even have knives, or the book she’s reading. She reads a lot.
She doesn’t deserve this, really, and if Jack were any kind of good man he would feel worse about the fact that it’s his fault she’s in here with him. But he’s not a good man, and he’s mostly just annoyed when she talks to him.
She gives up after a while, and then all that’s left is a barren, dusty silence, save for the sounds of their everyday lives, the pages of her books or the drip of water from the faucet.
Sometimes Jack feels like he’s going mad, and it’s nights like that when he turns to Lucinda in their bed and presses kisses to her mouth, trails his hands down her body to touch her.
Since I got the Kings DVD, I’ve been rewatching -because I’m obviously a masochist- and I found a continuity error
In episode 5, Judgement Day, the Benjamin family is shown having a dinner, welcoming creepy Andrew Cross back to table. At this dinner, Lucinda Wolfson is obviously there as Jack’s date
And very oddly, Kathrina Ghent is there, which makes no sense given Rose’s obvious disdain for the woman.
Then in episode 7, The Sabbath Queen, Jack shows up to Silas’ birthday party, with Lucinda as his date, and his parents seemed suprised, and he introduces her to them. Did they forget her from 2 episodes ago?
See, more proof that this show is Evil!! Not really, I just sort of hate it, but love it, but really hate it a lot…but love Jack. And the show. When I’m not hating it.
Screencaps not mine, but rather borrowed from http://fishsticktheatre.com/index.htm (sorry, I haven’t quite mastered links)
summary: And here she is, in prison with him two years later, with the glow and sparkle of the world gone and her only way out to have a baby. And she’s - too young, and not for the first time Jack feels stabbing regret about using her the way he did.
notes: Well - series ended up happening! Takes place after “Almost Martyrs” and I highly recommend you go read that first. You can check out my blog here. Thanks very much to my beta Courtney!
The morning after, he feels like the coming of spring after a long winter, feels the snow and ice inside him start to crack and melt away. The sun beams into their room that morning, and for once it doesn’t feel like taunts and cold words.
For the first time Jack can remember, he doesn’t feel crushed under an insurmountable weight, pressure pushing down on him until he can’t breathe.
He looks at Lucinda and he sees warmth and hope. He lets himself forget about his father, about Michelle, about David, and he just eats breakfast opposite Lucinda. They talk, but not about the day before. It’s trite, and blissfully dull, play-acting at a life they don’t have.
They don’t talk about the eggs in the nest, either, despite the fact they’re both sneaking glances at it. But Jack can’t stop thinking about it - he’s had almost 30 years of his father’s mysticism and religious symbolism, after all. Lucinda’s face is indecipherable as she looks at it.
But they don’t talk about it, even when she brings a hand to her stomach and stares at it as if she’s a million miles away.