lovely esau

I don’t think that people who say “the doctrine of election is unfair” understand that they don’t really want God’s fairness, because God’s fairness means He would send each and everyone who has ever sinned into hell where we would (very much rightfully) receive His holy wrath. You don’t want fair. You want grace. I think the very fact alone that He even saves people at all is a magnificent testament of His mercy. 

“Just as it is written: “Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated.” What then shall we say? Is God unjust? Not at all! For he says to Moses, “I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.” It does not, therefore, depend on human desire or effort, but on God’s mercy. For Scripture says to Pharaoh: “I raised you up for this very purpose, that I might display my power in you and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth.” Therefore God has mercy on whom he wants to have mercy, and he hardens whom he wants to harden.” | Romans 9:13-18

“But who are you, a human being, to talk back to God? “Shall what is formed say to the one who formed it, ‘Why did you make me like this?’” Does not the potter have the right to make out of the same lump of clay some pottery for special purposes and some for common use? What if God, although choosing to show his wrath and make his power known, bore with great patience the objects of his wrath—prepared for destruction? What if he did this to make the riches of his glory known to the objects of his  mercy, whom he prepared in advance for glory?” | Romans 9:20-23

God is not unfair because 1) we are all sinners deserving of His wrath; 2) He is the ultimate standard of justice; 3) despite of the fact that He does not owe ANYONE salvation, He still calls sinners into fellowship with Him and gives them love, joy, peace, and eternal life. That is incredible love and grace!

The thing I can’t wrap my head around is if God truly does hate some people, how on earth is it possible to understand the heart of God when we choose to love those He hates?
It’s a contradiction that I cannot explain. I think it’s clear that our enemies that Jesus tells us to love are not all the one’s God hates, but the overlap is too strong for it to be possible to be more like God by choosing to do what God says.

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Revelation 2:9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

We are the real Jews we fit the curses of Deuteronomy chapter 28 ,when did the Jewish/edotimes ever been on slave ships? Never ! started with the so call native Americans,then so call indigenous Hispanics,then so call it for yourselves brothers and sisters.

anonymous asked:

If God chose some he must love some more than others. He’s sovereign; he can do what he wants. Very few out of all of history were chosen, not through our merit but his whim. We choose him because he chose us. A child who dies in Kazakhstan, never hearing, no missionaries, goes to hell. Well, God chose not to love that child.

Hey dear friend, I’d love to talk about that.

I think what you said, by and large, is not true, and assumes a very particular view of God that doesn’t reconcile with Scripture.

When we say “God is sovereign and He can do what He wants,” I don’t know why it automatically follows that God must then act from evil or apathy. If your view of God is inherently suspicious and mistrusting, then of course, your conclusions will lead to a God who arbitrarily sends people to Hell. But if, for a moment, you believed God was bound by goodness, then maybe there’s a larger picture here. Just a few thoughts:

- There’s clear evidence in the Bible that somehow, God holds us accountable up to the point of our knowledge. I’ll leave it at that.

- How can we know how God reveals Himself to a child in a faraway village? How can we possibly know the ways that God speaks to people and the ways that they have rejected Him?

- Yes, I believe in Hell, but I don’t believe just anyone goes there. I’d imagine it’s much harder to get there than you think. I’m with C.S. Lewis on this: The gates of Hell are locked from the inside, meaning that it’s reserved for a particular kind of unrepentant person who has done everything possible to curse God and goodness from their lives.

- I do not, do not, do not, believe in the doctrine of double election. Yes, I’m mostly a Reformed Calvinist, but no, I don’t dogmatically believe every area of doctrine just because “they say so.”

- What about all those people who never got a chance with God? What about people born in other countries that are predominantly of another religion? What about babies and people with Down syndrome and those who commit suicide? These are important questions that don’t have easy answers: but my short answer is that God’s grace is far greater and wider and deeper than we could possibly fathom, and I dare not shrink it down to my own pitiful ideas of fairness and justice.

- Didn’t the Bible say that God loved Jacob but hated Esau? Yes, but there are a lot more pages of the Bible after that.

- Here’s the most amazing thing. If Hell is a prison for those who are unashamedly hateful and horrific their entire lives, then Jesus, the architect of that prison, took the death sentence of Hell in himself in exchange for our freedom and eternity in Heaven. In other words, the warden has locked himself up and given you the key. No other worldview even comes close to that sort of grace and mercy.

- Here’s another thing. Most people get angry about the idea of deathbed confessions. In other words, “How can you live how you want and then accept God in the last five seconds of your life?” And certainly, there are people who would abuse this idea, and no one’s getting away with that. But in the hospital, I’ve seen enough people at the edge of death, and they all have fears about the other side. They feel they can never catch up to a lifetime of regret. Yet—Jesus always had room for last-minute wanderers and prodigals. Can you see the beauty of someone who might cry out for mercy with their last breath? Because I imagine that in a life-and-death situation, when someone is at the brink of eternity and they cry out to their half-informed idea of God or Jesus or the Creator, and it’s sincere and truthful and fully engaged with all the tiny human understanding we can muster — that God must somehow see this and bless it by His ocean of grace, and that very possibly, this little whisper of ours is enough. I wouldn’t bet my life on it, and I’d rather cry for mercy today, every day, but for the people who never got a chance, I have to believe that God gives them one more.

— J.S.