THE REAL STORY BEHIND THE NAMJOON, WALE, AND VENNY INCIDENT
So long story short an “army” that goes by the name of Venny is pretty good at making celebrities notice bangtan. She got a retweet from wale from an old cover from namjoon and even got tinashe to notice hobi.
But heres why you SHOULD NOT treat here as the best namjoon stan ever because she is not
*i dont want to bring up the past but a lot of people are comparing her with namjoon because VENNY IS PROBLEMATIC SHE MADE A LOT OF RACIST REMARKS AND NEVER APOLOGIZED OR OWNED UP TO THEM AND EVEN REPEATED THEM UNLIKE NAMJOON*
So basically many armys AND HER claim that the collab happened because of her WHICH I HIGHLY DOUBT BECAUSE ME KNOWING NAMJOON HE WOULD OF SAID SOMETHING HIMSELF
so then venny venn diagram releases these on her twitter (WHICH IS NOW PRIVATE COINCIDENCE I THINK NOT)
Okay but e ven before i knew that this was fake I HIGHLY DOUBTED IT namjoon would of done something himself he has the full capability to dm and message intl armys he has done so before
also she sounded soooooo shady i wasnt buying it
so then seeing this beef wale assumed namjoon knows venny venn diagram not knowing the real situation
BUT NAMJOON DOESNT KNOW WHO TF THIS PROBLEMATIC SHIT IS THIS COLLAB DIDNT HAPPEN BECAUSE OF YOU BOO
the fact that some people dont know this AND ARE ACTING LIKE SHE IS THE BEST NAMJOON STAN IS DISGUSTING BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY BEAUTIFUL NAMSTANS OUT THERE NOT THIS LYING SHIT WHO WANTED TO BE NOTICED SO DAMN BAD
I feel really bad for her BECAUSE SHE IS SO PETTY LIKE YOU ALREADY LIED AND EVERYONE KNOWS STOP TRYNA COVER YOURSELF UP WE ARE ARMYS WE ARE DETECTIVES WE WILL FIGURE OUT EVERYTHING
okay but basically i dont know what to do
the whole situation is so petty and stupid, like did this girl REALLY have to do this, being a namjoon stan since pre-debut i wouldnt be this thirsty to get namjoon to notice me, like i dont really know what to do because she already has done it and really cant take it back.
but hey im happy this happened because the twitter memes about her are so funny
peace, love, and support namjoon’s mixtape
*note* so many people are supporting namjoon remember when everyone used to fucking hate him people are giving him so much love i love armys we are amazing we need to protect namjoon
i feel bad for namjoon bc this is affecting his career, some “armys” are no different from antis using namjoon as a fucking target for everything, i remember him mentioning that he wont feel as if his life has purpose until his music affect the lives of his fans and now when he actually gets to know an intl “army” its about something negative and false accusations against him. Imagine how hard breaking he would feel GREAT START TO HIS SECOND MIXTAPE UGH
LEAVE HIM ALONE
atfirst i thought it was stupid to hate on venny as what she did was a harmless petty joke but this can really affect namjoon’s image in his rap career as wale knows about this
Destiel, Bi!Dean and preparing the audience for a “shocker”.
I just did a re-watch of 12x10 and it really got me thinking
again about Benjamin and Cas’s talk in the car with the boys about Benjamin and
his female vessel.
At the time the episode aired, I think I was so excited
about the prospect of Cas being in a female vessel, and how this could
potentially shift a heteronormative audiences perception of Dean and Cas that I
didn’t realise just what else they were trying to do.
This is about reassurance.
This is the conversation that was had in the car:
CAS: Benjamin is always very careful. Long ago, he found a
powerfully devout vessel in Madrid, and her faith, it… she gave him
everything – her trust and her body.
DEAN: Wait. So Benjamin’s a woman?
CAS: Benjamin is an angel. His vessel is a woman. But it –
it’s – it’s more than that. She’s not just his vessel.
Just this small exchange is important as exposition for the
audience. It is about preparing the
audience for what is coming up. The idea that Cas was also once ‘a woman’.
Which, okay, no he wasn’t a woman, he just had a female vessel, but imagine how
that would have gone down had this exchange not taken place? Imagine how a
general audience would have reacted to Cas and his female vessel had Benjamin
just been another angel in a male vessel?
Probably a lot like the way Dean acted here, with confusion.
By giving us the Benjamin character and this particular
scene as well, the writer has successfully prepared the audience for Cas in his
female vessel. Preventing raised eyebrows and confusion because the audience
will remember this conversation and apply it to Cas.
“Castiel is an angel, his vessel WAS a woman. His vessel is
now a man, Cas is still a dude and it’s not weird. Cool beans.”
(when I think of a general audience watching SPN lets just
say that I certainly don’t think of the fandom or tumblr. I think of my brother
and that is something I won’t get into here. Heteronormative doesn’t even begin
to cover it.)
The fact is, making one of your three main lead male characters
a woman for an episode is a weird thing to do, the kind of thing that would probably
make some audience members uncomfortable. So adding in this exposition, this reassurance, removes that level of
discomfort, it gets them used to the idea first, like a buffer.
See for a show like SPN, whilst its always been a bit weird with its story lines, it’s never
been all that progressive. As much as
we would all like to wish that all SPN viewers were like us – liberal forward
thinking people who are willing and eager for TV to break a few taboos – the
chances are that is very much not the case. Its an old show, it has an established
audience (apparently a bipartisan audience amazingly) and therefore breaking
boundaries the way more modern shows have (such as American Gods, How to Get Away
with Murder and Orange is the New Black) just isn’t really in the cards. Those
shows established the taboo stories, the queer main characters, the
representation, from the start. They built their audience on those foundations.
SPN can’t do that without isolating part of its audience – unless it thinks
very carefully as to how it may present such notions.
I hope I am explaining this in a way that makes sense. See
this is of course about Bi!Dean and Destiel (as if anything on my blog WASN’T
about those topics). Because here’s the thing. On any other, newer show, for
Dean to come out as bisexual, for two male lead characters to enter into a
homosexual relationship, it wouldn’t be a big deal. Those shows could build
their audience around those concepts, because they would be ingrained into the
show from the start.
For Supernatural, that sadly isn’t the case. SPN didn’t
clearly establish Dean as Bisexual early on, and Destiel isn’t canon, it has always
been the subject to interpretation with just enough ‘no homo’ so that anyone
who chooses not to see it doesn’t have to (again, excluding 12x19 but we’ll get
One of the biggest hurdles to getting bi!dean and canon
destiel, is for the SPN creators to overcome this fear that half their audience
would reject them if they actually went there. It would be seen as coming ‘out
of the blue’ and all those heteronormative people would raise their eyebrows
and moan and be utterly confused by it.
That’s why Supernatural needs the buffers. It needs the
gradual exposition, the subtle desensitisation of a general audience to
anything even mildly “progressive”. If Supernatural wasn’t putting these
buffers in place already, I would think we would have a problem. I would be
much more apprehensive at even the idea that destiel could be a thing that is
What is so fantastic, is that just like in 12x10 with the
fem!Cas buffer that was Benjamin, we have already
been getting buffers all throughout the last few seasons.
Here are some of my favourites:
Jesse x Cesar – 11x19 – These guys are my absolute
favourite, they were created specifically to show the audience that you can be
a gay man and also a macho man. That gay men aren’t stereotypes, that hunters can be gay and settle down and
especially that gay romance doesn’t
change the theme of the story. The big take away from this episode is that it shows the
general audience that men like Dean
Winchester can be gay/bisexual.
Hannah – 10x17 – This
was a real eye opener for any Cas x Hannah shippers. Because Cas didn’t treat
Hannah any different, and he had exactly the same warmth and affection for
Hannah in her male vessel that he did in her female vessel. Basically this was
a nice punch in the face for any homophobes watching. SPN doesn’t care about
your heteronormative ships. You wanna ship Hannah x Cas? Fine! But Hannah’s in
a dudes body now and guess what? Cas doesn’t care! How do you feel about THAT?
God is Bisexual – 11x20 – This was just a nice big fuck you
to homophobes everywhere. Don’t like queer characters? This is NOT the show for
you! Because in our world even GOD is queer! Yay for LGBT representation! It works
as a buffer because once again it is sending a message to the general audience
that this is the kind of thing you can expect on our show. We are changed now.
Dean rides Larry – 12x11 – Okay so maybe it’s not an obvious
buffer, but it is kind of a subliminal message so I’m counting it. Dean riding
that damn bull was the most sexual scene we have had on this show in seasons
(and no that god awful thing that happened in 12x02 doesn’t count – nor does
the same god awful thing from 12x08). The jokes alone, the sexual innuendos.
This entire episode is loaded with subliminal messages basically screaming at
the general audience to maybe just consider the fact that Dean likes guys.
12x06/12x20 – Max Banes – like Jesse and Cesar Max works as
a buffer because he is another way to get the general audience used to the idea
that characters that are similar to Dean Winchester can be queer and it’s no
big deal. Max is badass, funny, smart and charming and also 100% canonically
queer (whether gay or bi we know textually that he is totally into dudes). Sam
and Dean don’t bat an eyelid at his sexuality, so neither should the audience.
It is just one part of his character and certainly not what his story is all
about. Max is proof that you can have a queer character who is a badass and a
hunter whose story is basically nothing to do with their sexuality. Their
sexuality just happens to be a part of who they are.
And finally – Destiel – season 12 – I’m making this its own
buffer because honestly? There is no way to view Dean and Cas’s relationship as
non-romantic at this point. I think that the writers have slowly been turning
up the dial on Destiel probably since 11x18. 12x19 really drummed it in for us
though. The angel/human love themes of 12x10, the textual “I love you” in
12x12, the MIXTAPE and everything else about 12x19. This is all preparation. It
is indeed a build up to a reveal. Destiel is it’s own buffer and even if people
do still accuse it of ‘coming out of nowhere’ once it goes canon, all the
writers have to do is gesture at season 12 and the fucking mixtape scene and
say to those people “in what universe does the gifting of a mixtape between
people who are not explicitly related NOT have romantic connotations?” Only a
fool would argue with that if they had any knowledge of pop culture history.
Sorry, but that’s the truth.
Anyway, that’s my thoughts on that. A show with a long
established audience about to make a move that could potentially appear (but
not really) out of left field would need to build up that move through a series
of well thought out buffers, symbols, themes and subliminal messages before
actually making it.
Like how Benjamin was the writers way of normalising Cas’s
female vessel, the past two seasons have been a journey to normalise bi!dean
and destiel in preparation for making both of these things explicitly canon. Yes we still have a way to go - it still needs to be stated explicitly in the text that Dean is into guys, in love with Cas bla bla bla, but we are getting there.
summary. Destiel is endgame. Dean is bisexual. The general audience better
learn to throw their heteronormative goggles in the bin because this is the state of this show right now, and it is good.
If You are a destiel shipper and still sad about 12x23
Here’s a few of happy things what happened in this season
12x03 Dean calls Cas “sunshine”
12x10 Dean sits on Cass lap | Canon that Dean is Cass human weakness
12x12 Dean calls Cas “handsome friend” | Cas says “I LOVE YOU”
12x19 The mixtape what Dean gives Cas
+they are actually husbands
It is now canon that at some point, Dean Winchester sat down and recorded all of that music, thinking very carefully what to put on it for Cas. Then he went and gave it to Cas.
Let me stress this, at some point Dean Winchester gave Castiel a gift and he was probably all grumpy about it and trying not to make a big deal out of it, but he still gave Cas something for his truck, something to remember him by when he is on the road. That is such a sentimental (dare I say romantic) gesture.
This fact is now canon and it opens the door to so many more scene like this.
There is so much more to their relationship than we get to see.
I can't believe we got two episodes in a row of such blatant Deancas what is happening
what i’m having a hard time digesting is that they aren’t trying to disguise it like they normally would?
they don’t have sam reacting the same way at all in the slightest
like, we didn’t get an emotional scene where sam calls his mom and tells her he’s spun out
why is dean so spun out and sam’s just like “let’s go work a case”
i mean usUALLY they try to mask the deancas by giving us samcas
even the ONE TIME sam called cas it was just so that he could come back to dean and be like “damn u right, he really isn’t answering his phone”
dean keeps doing and saying things that are, as i’ve said before, LINES THAT JENSEN USUALLY WOULD WANT TO CHANGE IN A SCRIPT. he has on at least two occasions changed lines in a script to be less “romantic” but apparently giving his good ol’ best buddy a mixtape didn’t set off his romantic buzzer?
talking about not recognizing the guy staring back at me didn’t set it off?
calling his mom and emotionally telling her how spun out he is didn’t set it off?
frankly, i’m disappointed in nesnej
USUALLY, there’s some other reason for dean to be worried about cas besides………………..dean loving cas
yes, i know cas is fucked up right now and dean is worried about that but like? they didn’t even try to make dean worried about lucifer jr and the possible 87th apocalypse. he was straight up only worried about cas.
not to mention the 17 episodes prior to 12x19 where dean had no clue what was going on with cas, didn’t really need him for anything, and was simply calling him over and over because he was worried about him.
USUALLY they wouldn’t have dean and cas straight up say what they mean
now it’s like “i feel like a failure and need to bring u a win” and “i’m mad because i’m worried” and “you mean WE like YOU AND ME like WE are a family ????” and “it’s a gift u keep those” and “i love you”
like especially the mixtape thing, it could’ve been really easy for cas to give that back to dean and dean could’ve been like “thanks man” and instead he’s like IT’S A GIFT I GAVE IT TO U AS A GIFT
they have never canonically given each other anything as useless as a cassette tape just for the sake of gift giving
i got off track here
why all the sudden are they being so honest with each other where was the fucking warning sooperblop!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
usually they’d have some third party being like “you’re in love with humanity” or “cas has this weakness he likes you” and now they’re just ???????????????? direct, face-to-face contact
what happened to them being afraid to put dean and cas alone in a room together
since when can dean imply that cas stole the fuckin colt from underneath his pillow and we all just kind of roll with that
Songs that help me with getting out of the bed in the morning.
The Black Keys - Lonely Boy Selah Sue - Famous Rihanna - Consideration (Feat. SZA) Norah Jones - Say Goodbye Florence + The Machine - Delilah Banks - Warm Water Selah Sue - This World The Black Keys - Hell Of The Season Florence + The Machine - Pure Feeling Delilah - Love You So
-Mixtapes are gay
- Dean threw a BF (bitch fit) when his BF (boner friend) didn’t pick up the phone
- did I mention the mixtape
-?????their faces????? In love
-Dean made him a fukcign mixtape lol he wants that ass
a mixtape of old and new, to remind eddie how much richie loves him
track list 1. skinned knees and gapped teeth- dear and the headlights 2. all around me- flyleaf 3. one year, six months- yellowcard 4. forever and always- parachute 5. come on eileen- dexy’s midnight runners 6. more than a feeling- boston 7. just what i needed- the cars 8. the flame- cheap trick 9. africa- toto 10. heaven- warrant 11. dreams- the cranberries 12. i don’t wanna miss a thing- aerosmith 13. can’t fight this feeling- reo speedwagon 14. happy together- the turtles
♡●Eddie is nervous, always. Although he can lighten up when it’s just him and his s/o. He’s not much for physical affection, but will always reassure them that he cares and wants them to be happy, usually through excessive worrying and nagging.
♡●Richie will make them laugh, any way he can, be it through silly voices or random tickling, he will always want to make them smile. If they’re in a sour mood he’s always caught off guard at first, but works his hardest to figure out whats wrong and quickly make light of it. Huge, huge cuddle bug when they’re alone.
♡●Mike likes to read with them, normally under a tree in the shade. He’ll wrap his arms around their shoulders and hold a book between the two of them, reading out loud until one of them accidentally falls asleep. He has no problem with PDA and is never caught without their hand in his.
♡●Bill loves to spoil his s/o with compliments, especially if he’s feeling down himself. Seeing them smile or blush immediately brightens his day and he enjoys nothing more than snuggling into their arms, usually when they sneak out at night to star gaze.
♡●Beverly is a kisser, constantly pressing her lips against their shoulders, hands, wrists, and cheeks. Receiving a kiss, though, makes her face burn and usually gives her so many butterflies she starts to feel nauseous, not to say that she doesn’t love it.
♡●Ben is a mixtape sort of guy, he loves to show them new songs, even if they are cheesy. He’s quiet and likes to go for walks, silence is bliss to him, and he enjoys just sitting with his s/o, watching other people go about their lives.
♡●Stan is anxious to show affection at first, but warms up to it quickly, even going so far as to initiate their first kiss. And after that it’s like they’re attached at the hip. He always makes sure they go to bed at a reasonable time, and sometimes lets them use his notes to study off of if they’re stressed.