lizzie bennet dairies

itsnotliketherearehillshere asked:

I think Gigi's gonna get bored and miss being in Lizzie's videos after she leaves (and she's also going to be worried about her brother who is sad over Lizzie) so she's gonna start her own, and Darcy is going to want to keep himself busy (after helping with the Lydia thingy) because he misses Lizzie and that's where the Pemberley Digital channel comes into play maaaaybe?, wishful thinking, maybe we should do another prayer circle lol



marissa-rae asked:

I think perhaps the vilification of Caroline is a narrative necessity if we're ever going to believe that Bing deserves Jane. His behavior towards her needs to be assigned some kind of blame; canon says Bing[ley] is guilty only of being too tractable, and Darcy can't be the villain, so... it really only leaves Caroline. Of course, I have no flipping idea how they're going to make Bing's continued ignorance AT ALL PLAUSIBLE. Sigh.

While I agree that Bing’s plot-mandated ignorance has reached LUDICROUS levels, I don’t agree with the rest of this.

I’ve talked a ton before about why I’m not down with simplifying Bing and Jane’s own roles in their separation (I also hate the idea of people “deserving” other people; affection is freely given; if Jane loves Bing then that’s it, the end, period) and why I don’t think Caroline’s extra machinations were at all necessary to make the plot work.

To sum it up again:

There is MORE than enough reason present in the canon to support their separation even in modern times. The most pertinent thing isn’t just that Bing(ley) is tractable. It’s that Bing(ley) lacks self-confidence and highly values Darcy’s opinion, while Jane is so reserved that it’s impossible to understand her true feelings unless you’ve known her forever.

It’s these traits of Bing(ley) and Jane, plus the behavior of the Bennet family, that make their separation possible. Bing(ley) doesn’t just blithely believe Darcy, but rather due to Jane’s extreme reserve and innate kindness and his own lack of self-confidence he couldn’t tell for himself that Jane loved him or felt particularly strongly about him at all. So when his BFF’s opinion coincided with this and added the obvious pressure from Jane’s family to accept him, he removed himself because he thought she didn’t want him.

There is basically NOTHING about that you need to change for a modern adaptation and frankly you don’t need to add extra misunderstandings or create a “villain” because the characters, being human and flawed, do it all themselves.

In LBD, Jane plays her relationship with Bing so close to the vest that she  refuses to admit that his concentrated attention is more than friendly (“”“"carpool”“”) and Lizzie even says in one of her Q&A’s that they hadn’t even labeled their relationship in any way or made it official. Bing’s nervousness and lack of surety as regards Jane is clearly displayed when he appears on Lizzie’s vlog doing things like super earnestly fretting about whether Jane will like a stuffed animal or xyz movie.

I know a lot of people stick on the idea that in modern times the expectation that someone is marrying for wealth is less overt and thus somehow requires more “proof,” but regardless of whether I agree (I think it’s overt in different ways), Mrs. Bennet’s behavior leaves nothing ambiguous about that. It’s acknowledged that she was HUGELY vocal at all times about how rich Bing was and how he and Jane would be married. Obviously Darcy and the Lees were aware of Lizzie’s family’s financial troubles and “family-wide” debt. It would reasonably take very little after that party where Mrs. Bennet was crowing about being “the inevitable future mother-in-law of the host” to convince Bing, who is already picking up barely ANYTHING from Jane, that this wasn’t what he wanted it to be.

Darcy going: “She’s just not that into you, and you can see that. It’s obvious that she’s so kind that she’s open to the attentions of anyone who directs them at her and her family is pushing you because they’re in dire financial straits,” would easily be MORE than enough to make him accept what he was already worried was the truth and leave so as to stop tossing all this out there to a woman who was not genuinely interested in him and (remembering that Bing is the most accommodating dude in the world) might actually be troubled by being pressured to accept him.

And yes, it means that Bing didn’t just march up to Jane and discuss it openly, but neither did Jane openly address any of it (including her own feelings?!?!) when he DID talk to her. Remember him not seeing the videos is important because in Snickerdoodles, Jane’s REAL FEELINGS are on display for like the first time ever. No one is perfect and I don’t think that destroys any sympathy for either of them.

And even if the story required an extra misunderstanding as a catalyst, there’s no reason that it couldn’t have been a genuine misunderstanding, instead of being some complex machination from Caroline to convince Darcy (since he’s the only one who’s mentioned it and it’s noted as what sealed his opinion). Unless, of course, they just wanted to shift some of the blame of Darcy’s canonical actions onto Caroline to make him look better (UNNECESSARILY since the narrative both punishes him for and makes him redeem himself), which grosssss.