Mystery Kids, Bloodborne, children and alien gods, the Nightmare Frontier, Kubo and Stanford Pines as hunters, Bill Cipher’s father, etc.
Lovecraft readers are gonna give me hell for this. But I’m doing it, I’m making dumb headcanons. I’m gonna sound like an idiot, but whatever. I’ll be making mention of Psychonauts, Gravity Falls, Coraline, Paranorman, Kubo, Over the Garden Wall, Bloodborne and stuff they have in common that make them so much more interesting when put together(I’m excluding Invader Zim and Danny Phantom as I write this since I have yet to watch them again). I wanted Kubo to be part of the group and I just want to make it clear why. My idea was that the majority of the Mystery Kids: The Eldritch Truth takes place where Kubo ended up traveling towards shortly after the spiritual departure of his parents. He lived as a lone child warrior, and soon headed off in wonder how his extended family was able to transcend into godhood when they sacrificed their eyes and allowed themselves to go mad, and to see if it was possible to get his parents back in the physical world, and he found himself eventually stuck in the same timeless dimension where Stanford Pines was hurled into for 30 years, never to come out of it and age at all. This was the city of the damned, Yharnam, a place stuck between reality and the mindscape, and a frontier of interdimensional beings. The main story happens after the finale of Gravity Falls, and after Bill Cipher made a comeback and the portal to Yharnam had to be reopened.
This is all so difficult to process and put into words that make sense, I mean even for myself, as the concepts in Bloodborne and Lovecraftian horror are enough to make my head explode, but let me break down some things so that it makes sense that the Mystery Kids belong in the same universe. Hear me out. And I might repeat the same things just for the sake of context so bear with my monotony if it comes to that. And I’m going to be mentioning the names of 2 specific gods here, a lot. Their Lovecraftian names and their counterparts in Bloodborne and in Mystery Kids.
Lovecraft’s work had the outer gods Azathoth and his son Nyarlathotep, among other eldritch abominations. To put it simply, Azathoth was the ruler of the outer gods. He’s mostly just there but his mere presence influenced a lot of chaos. He WAS the cosmos, and the center of everything, and Nyarlathotep just loved fucking with humans and his own father and getting into people’s business for the lolz. He was the only outer god who showed interest in humans. Now just substitute Azathoth with Oedon and Nyarlathotep with Oedon’s implied offspring in Bloodborne, the Moon Presence. And it’s gonna get more fucked up when we substitute the Moon Presence with Bill Cipher. I’m gonna lay out 3 similar situations here, the 3rd one I’m sticking out with for context of MK: The Eldritch Truth. 1.) In Lovecraft’s writing, Azathoth and Nyarlathotep, already explained above. Azathoth not necessarily evil but he was just so unfathomable his mere presence caused madness. Nyarlathotep indeed the evil one, and he loved fucking around with Azathoth. It’s easier to think about them as God and Satan. 2.) In Bloodborne, Oedon and the Moon Presence, in which the Moon Presence makes a pact with Yharnam hunters(notably the paleblood hunter Gehrman) to rid the city of Yharnam of the plague caused by Oedon because apparently Oedon impregnated people with alien babies and caused Yharnam to go bonkers just by being there and the Moon Presence is like “You’re going down, dad. That’s fucked up. You can’t do that.”, even though Oedon is actually mindless and probably doesn’t know what the hell he was doing other than being an unfathomable blob of cosmic energy and caused the Yharnam population to go on a mad frenzy. But the Moon Presence, the earthbound son of Oedon, had good intentions for humanity. 3.) in MK: The Eldritch Truth, Oedon and Bill Cipher, Bill Cipher being another offspring of Oedon but still a nod to Nyarlathotep(because Bill loved making deals just like Nyarlathotep) in which Bill keeps getting involved in human pursuits with the intent to eliminate Oedon and take his place as the one and only bad guy in the entire universe. This is why Bill burned his own dimension along with his parents(as indicated in Journal 3 in Gravity Falls), or so he thought. His father and more of his kin remained alive. Oedon and Bill has had a long running feud for eons that has never stopped until Yharnam and Gravity Falls. Now…for the things I’ve observed…
Eyes, Insight, Madness, Dream realms, Souls, Lanterns, Bells, Voices, Underwater themes, Ancient civilizations, and Portals 1.)In Psychonauts, there was a mineral from a crashed meteorite called the psitanium. Prolonged exposure to it either caused someone to go mad or develop a stronger brain. It gave people exposed to it an immense amount of insight. Psitanium was probably organic and an alien element, as it was literally called the Whispering Rock and spoke in an inhuman tongue and into a person’s mind. People who were able to withstand the effects of it were elevated to superhuman status(the psychics), and they can percieve things normal people can’t and even influence memories. Dream realms were an alternate reality. They were as tangible as the physical world. The psychics in Psychonauts had enough mental prowess to transmigrate between worlds. Whatever was done in the dream world directly influences physical reality.
Psycho-Portals were likely forged out of the remains of the Whispering Rock. These are little door-shaped devices that psychics use to traverse through dimensions. With it, they can, at will enter the mindscape and escape out of it. All the psychics of the known world in Psychonauts were probably descendants from the Lake Oblongata settlers who were directly affected by the psitanium 500 years before the events of the game. The psitanium meteorite most likely fell right in the middle of Lake Oblongata. It’s where the camp is as well because it’s easier to train possible psychics there where the main concentration of psitanuim is. It may be a coincidence that it fell into the water but it’s going to be a recurring theme here that dream realms can be found underwater, so I’m going to say it’s not just a coincidence. And note the family of psychics who cursed Razputin’s family to always die by drowning. My guess is that the influence of the psitanium for this other family was so strong that they started believing growning is a way to transcend into a godlike state. They most likely died out themselves by drowning. And this family was evidently close to Raz’s family as there was an obvious falling out between them and Raz’s father, Augustus Aquato. 2.)Kubo’s story had his extended family sacrifice their eyes in exchange for godhood, but in doing so they went mad in the process. Eyes were windows to the soul, and in that sense giving up their souls meant giving up their humanity. Kubo’s grandfather infiltrated one of the boy’s dreams to influence his decisions. That’s literally the same thing the psychics do in Psychonauts. Kubo’s mother literally has the same sensitivity to the universe as her family.
But she didn’t give up her eyes, so she didn’t lose her humanity. When her body fell, she had the choice to transcend but she chose to stay earthbound in another vessel and protect her son. The soul is eternal, and with the aid of the lanterns in the Bon festival, they can move to another plane, the dream plane where the gods reside. The mindscape and physical reality can be easily traversed through by people with a heightened enough sensitivity of the known universe, while risking insanity if their minds aren’t strong enough. In MK: The Eldritch Truth, Kubo’s grandfather communed with the same god that turned Yharnam into a hellhole, the god Oedon. By the time the story of Kubo(in the movie) ends, he remained dismayed by the departure of his parents, so he traveled looking for them until he found himself eventually in Yharnam. The ringing of giant bells was significant in the Bon festival, and it’s that idea that leads Kubo to Yharnam. Bell ringing either summons souls from the dream world or puts them back there. That was literally the function of his father, Hanzo’s, helmet, the Helmet Invulnerable. It served as the bell that ushered souls into the spirit world when the Bon festival was held, and it was also weaponized by Hanzo to drive back evil elements, namely Kubo’s grandfather and aunts. Okay now moving on, Kubo finally arrives in Yharnam. By the time he enters it, Stanford Pines was already teleported towards it and trapped inside. I’ll explain why Kubo is the only one who doesn’t age. Stanford Pines was already bound to Bill by the time he was teleported out of Gravity Falls, and thus cannot forge a deal with the Moon Presence against Oedon. Stanford then cannot operate within the dream realms confined in Yharnam, making time for him as real as it was when he was in Gravity Falls. This will stand for 30 years. That’s why when he walked out of the portal he was dressed as a hunter. And he was already halfway through the 30 year lapse of time when Kubo arrived.
Kubo, however like the paleblood hunter Gehrman who served under the Moon Presence in Yharnam, would find himself working under both Gehrman and the Moon Presence as another paleblood hunter, able to operate in the nightmare frontier within Yharnam. Paleblood is a title given to those akin with the Moon Presence. The term pale blood may allude to how blood has mercury content in it, specifically the gods’ blood, but I’ll expound on that later. In this timeline, Kubo and Stanford would be working in tandem against Oedon and until Stanford would be teleported back to Gravity Falls. Kubo remains in Yharnam and doesn’t age. Lastly, the eye monster in the Long Lake was likely an eldritch abomination itself. It looked like a shoggoth but I’m not pushing for it. It was able to whisper and read into Kubo’s mind. And it’s a monster that lives in deep water. And I’m willing to bet that monster was a representative of Oedon(though I kinda won’t push for that either). 3.)In Gravity Falls, Fiddleford McGuckett lost his mind after his head was hurled into the portal. Considering that the other side of the portal is Yharnam, and since it was riddled with eldritch abominations, McGuckett’s mind became ruptured with cosmic energy and inhuman knowledge. He wasn’t ready for it. That’s how he babbled gibberish when he was pulled out and eventually slipped into madness(even without the help of the memory eraser gun). In Dreamscaperers, Dipper was completely within the cosmic realm, that’s how he was able to fight Bill back with superpowers, and at that time, he was sort of akin to the gods, but compare it to when Bill made that one deal with Dipper in the episode Sock Opera, he inhabited the boy’s body leaving his soul in a state of limbo in the physical world. Dipper was helpless. It wasn’t a higher state of being. This is the case of the spirits in Paranorman who refuse to leave the physical world. Without a physical body, Bill was also useless in committing physical actions, that’s why he needed a host, and that’s how he was so clumsy when he inhabited Dipper’s body for a short period. Mabel was able to overpower him later on showing his then weakness in a physical state of being, as Dipper was weaker in the mindscape compared to Bill in Dreamscaperers. Physicality at that time was foreign to Bill. In the finale though, when the rift broke and Bill was both in tune with the physical and nightmare world, he was able to unleash hell. He achieved duality, though not the kind that humans posses i.e. being a man/woman. Rather he achieved complete transcendence. He was already an elder god. But elder gods’ functions are to influence the mind and physical surrounding and not actually commit physical actions. So when Bill had both a physical and form and a form shaped by the cosmos, he became unstoppable. Well, almost. Similar to the Psychonauts, the key to another dimension was the Rift. As the wiki states, it’s a byproduct or a leftover of the reactivation of the portal. It’s a tangible key to the nightmare frontier. And just like the psychics in Psychonauts who can traverse between the physical world and the mindscape at will with the help of the Psycho-Portal, Bill Cipher can do the same thing with the use of the Rift. That’s why he wanted to get a hold of it so bad. The Rift was of the cosmos, and only a cosmic being such as Bill can use it correctly. Now let’s look at the episode “Dipper and Mabel vs the Future”. Stanford made Gravity Falls as the final destination of his research because it had the strongest concentration of cosmic energy that he could find. He hit a roadblock in his research and with enough searching, he found a cave where he accidentally called out Bill Cipher. It wasn’t said what this civilization was, but I’m taking a wild guess here that it’s the same aliens who landed in Gravity Falls millions of years before the events of the story. The aliens who owned the ship that Stanford looted for parts for the portal he constructed. There was a warning in the cave writings not to summon Bill. Considering all that, you can guess what actually wiped out the aliens who were drawn to and decided to settle in Gravity Falls. Bill Cipher himself. These warnings are of the same nature in Bloodborne, the saying “Fear the old blood”, which leads me too… 4.)Bloodborne, the cursed city Yharnam had people who argued over the use of either blood ministration or autoenucleation and the collection of eyes to commune with and become one with the gods, as these practices gained them inhuman insight. It also made people with weak mental constitutions to go insane. First, the blood. There was a school in Yharnam that had scholars who discovered alien blood used by an ancient civilization. It was headed by a man who frowned upon blood ministration because he knew of the side effects of it, and that it caused the complete purge of that old civilization. He conjured up the saying “Fear the old blood.” That’s literally the same warning in Gravity Falls that Stanford ignored when he read “don’t summon Bill Cipher, you idiot”. So, when people disagreed with this man, they split into groups that openly accepted the use of the blood ministration, and it brought demise to Yharnam the same way it killed off the civilization before it. That man who didn’t wan’t to do this leaned instead towards autoenucleation, severing his own eyes so that he can see within the confines of his mind and later on, the cosmos, and it worked, but in the process he became bound to a rocking chair and couldn’t talk. Autoenucleation was the thing Kubo’s grandfather became obsessed with and eventually made the old man a kin of the gods. Not a god, but a kin of the gods. It was heavily implied in Bloodborne that no man can really become a god, but only elevate his kindredness with the gods, and usually with overbearing futility in the end. Yharnam was overrun by the influence caused by the presence of Oedon and it’s stuck in an everpresent state of timelessness and deteriorated humanity. Also note that the gods that are present in Yharnam never operate within the physical world and are only present in the nightmare frontier though their influence caused a total cosmetic deterioration of Yharnam and the insanity that came along with it, like how Bill Cipher can only operate and be in his strongest and the nightmare realm and that the only remnants of his energy in the physical world were the strange happenings in Gravity Falls. The paleblood hunters who are stuck in Yharnam who serve Oedon’s son the Moon Presence can also transmigrate between dream realms and reality through the use of lanterns. Bloodborne also used the idea of lanterns, like in Kubo and the Bon festival, but in this case specifically sentient winter lanterns, as ways to guide souls toward the dream realm.
There are many key characters in Bloodborne whose physical bodies have died without their knowing because they stayed in the nightmare frontier for too long.
One such individual who was cursed to keep watch over the nightmare frontier forever was the paleblood hunter Gehrman. He serves as the chief hunter for the Moon Presence and is under the care of a sentient winter lantern who embodies someone he loved. Bloodborne also has large themes of an entire body of the cosmos and the dream frontier being found underwater. The blood of Oedon, and an artifact of the cosmos, the Eye of the Blood-Drunk Hunter, functions relatively the same as the Rift in Gravity Falls. The blood was a direct link to the cosmos like the Rift. The Eye was a little different. It grants access to a version of the nightmare frontier that one of the hunters in Yharnam lived in. It’s an artifact of a memory, and in it, a distorted image of Yharnam can be seen underneath an endless body of water, suggesting that Yharnam was indeed stuck in a timeless dimension underneath the dimension of the gods. And it also is revealed inside that memory that one of the reasons that Yharnam was under the scourge of angry gods was because a fishing village some distance away from Yharnam butchered an eldritch god that they found underwater and its corpse was delivered to the same man who committed autoenucleation on his own eyes. Moreso, the culture of bell ringing in Yharnam was a major reason Kubo went there, as he was in pursuit of getting his parents back prior to ending up there. A subcity in Yharnam, Loran, was part of an ancient civilization(the same that was wiped out by blood ministration) that abused the bell ringing ritual to bring back the dead(and mostly to humanity’s demise). 5.)Paranorman - I’m willing to bet that Bill Cipher was the reason Agatha Prenderghast and her descendants can see dead people. Aggie was already an odd and naive child by default, and was likely an easy target for Bill Cipher. Okay now consider Bill Cipher as a nod to the Lovecraftian outer god Nyarlathotep, we already established that. Nyarlathotep roamed the earth a lot disguised as a man dressed in black(remember that), and is responsible for fucking with people like the demon Satan. In the movie The Witch, the witch in said movie made a deal with the devil(who looked like a man dressed in black when he revealed himself) in order for her to commune with him and elevate her being. This may have been the same case with Aggie and how plenty if not all of the Prenderghast descendants are cursed to be in tune with people who have already transcended into another plane of existence.
Aggie’s case was special. Notice how other souls that Norman saw were only in a state of limbo similar to Dipper’s soul in the episode Sock Opera. And Aggie’s soul interfered with the energy with Blithe Hollow, and not just because she was mad and the way she died, oh no, but because that was cosmic energy. That’s ridiculous, you may say, but look at the soul of the soldier who was drowned in the beginning of the movie. That’s a pretty fucked up way to die too, so why wasn’t he like Aggie? Right? Norman probably will have this power as well when he transcends into the dreamscape. That old man Uncle Prenderghast probably had it too but he just doesn’t care. I’m going to throw in a wild card here and say Aggie’s father probably died from an illness, and this made her mother undergo severe depression. In her desperation, Aggie met Bill Cipher, disguised as a man, and he gave her a deal. She would be able to talk to her father, but Bill didn’t tell her this would curse her family forever, and cause the inhabitants of Blithe Hollow to go on a frenzy from witchcraft hysteria. Aggie was most likely a nod to one of the most notable victims of the witchcraft craziness in Massachusetts, Ann Glover. Ann Glover was executed before the Salem trials actually happened, but was the only victim of the witchcraft trials that was given a tribute day 300 years after her execution. Aggie probably even handed documents of spectral evidence to the judges when they tried her, much like Ann Glover did, but to no avail. Her madness would take effect when she herself was already in the dream realm, just like Kubo’s grandfather, and it was only amplified by the rage and betrayal she felt when she was ostracized and finally executed without mercy. In any case, Aggie and Norman’s sixth sense came from an alien source. At least that’s my headcanon for this story. Why did Bill do this? Because he’s a fucking asshole, that’s why, just like Nyarlathotep, and just like Satan. 7.)Over the Garden Wall- Everybody knows OTGW had a lot of similarities between Dante’s Inferno and the stages of hell. Someone here already made a concrete writeup about that and their observations were quite tactful and impressive. I am however making this about the rift between our world and the mindscape, the same place where the Beast resides in. Much like Dipper’s out-of-body experience in Gravity Falls, the souls of Wirt and his brother Greg went into a state of limbo when they drowned in a nearby river. And like Dipper and the wandering souls in Paranorman, they had no clue what to do because their minds weren’t in an elevated state in the majority of the story. Wirt, though, later on realized during his confrontation with the Beast that the only way to get him and his brother’s minds and bodies back is that if they take their power back through sheer force of will, in a sense, elevating his state of mind in the process. The will to exist was what the Beast preyed on, and Wirt denied him of it. This is how the dynamics of insight work as well in the other stories, is that people with strong convictions(our heroes) are the ones with superior mental consitutions and can face evil, in this case, meddling godlike beings. It’s not usually the book smart ones, with Stanford and Dipper Pines as exceptions because they’re already book smart by default, but they have heart. A strong will to exist in all these stories was a key element to surviving against the baddest of the bad. Note that Wirt’s travels in the dreamscape happen underwater, and that time was irrelevant in it, much like how in Bloodborne, the cosmos can be found underwater, and that the city of Yharnam remained timeless because of the outer gods. The outer god in the case of OTGW, is the Beast. The woods in his dimension didn’t have the concept of time, either. I’m also willing to bet that the town Wirt lived in was inhabited by Puritans some hundreds of years ago, like Blithe Hollow in Paranorman. It’s evident from how the people in the woods dressed and lived. The character Wirt met in the dreamscape, Quincy Endicott, was already dead for sometime, as evidenced by his gravestone in episode 9. He was a resident there. This town was also likely involved in a plague caused by an outer god that preyed on them. This caused a mass hysteria so bad in the town that the inhabitants of it went mad and either died or merged their existence with the dreamscape as a result. This was how many of the characters in the woods are out of their minds and can’t seem to find any resolve to their problems. They’re ordinary people without a clue and caught in an endless cycle. And just like Bloodborne’s Gherman who does service to the Moon Presence under the care of a winter lantern in a land where time is meaningless, OTGW’s Woodsman does service to the Beast with the task of carrying a soul lantern around in a Puritan settlement where other poor souls like him are lost in their existence as a result of cosmic interference. It’s a pretty big deal how these ideas fall parallel to each other. If you don’t believe me yet, look at the Moon Presence, and the true form of the Beast, and now look at artist interpretations of the Lovecraftian outer god Nyarlathotep. They all look the same. The ringing of bells was also referenced, but once, in the episode “The Ringing of the Bell”. Auntie Whispers kept a malevolent spirit inside Lorna at bay for short periods of time, unlike the crazed out Loran haindmaidens in Yharnam who used bells to bring back spirits of the dead.She used it to drive back evil like Kubo’s father Hanzo did with the Helmet Invulnerable. 8.)Coraline also played with the idea of eyes and dream realms. The Beldam is the ruler of the Other World, a nightmare realm disguised in hedonistic pleasures. She blinds weakened children from reality and cause them to lose themselves to her, this was her racket until she fell to Coraline. The Beldam operated similarly to how the devil worked in The Witch, a temptress. However in Coraline, the Beldam never grants the children any enlightenment after making the deal with them. Instead she consumes them to sustain her existence and entraps them in her world, like the Beast in OTGW.
And of course there also had to be a portal to her world, the weird door in the Pink Palace, and it’s different from the other portals mentioned so far in a way that this was under her control the whole time, although her control was only focused around the Pink Palace itself and nowhere else.
Also similar to Bloodborne and the story of Kubo, giving up your eyes means giving up your humanity. The Beldam was obsessed with it. She may be an earthbound cosmic entity herself, and just as devious and fixated on messing with people as Bill, the Beast and Nyarlathotep. She may have existed even before the Pink Palace built over the physical place where her dimension was. Also note that the snowglobe where the Beldam trapped Coraline’s parents functioned the same way as the Eye of the Blood Drunk Hunter in Bloodborne. It’s an artifact of a memory of the nightmare realm, and when it shattered in the end, the memories of Coraline’s parents being abducted by the Beldam disappeared with it. And her victims, 100% of the time it’s children. Thinking about all this, why are these monsters so interested in children? This leads me to my next observation.
Eldritch gods and children Bloodborne-the god Oedon was kinda just there all the time not doing much, though his presence influenced so much chaos and disorder. 3 women in Bloodborne were affected by the plague Oedon caused in such a way that they became pregnant with alien babies(yay!). Eldritch beings cannot reproduce. While omnipotent, they don’t possess the duality and physicality of man. They operate in the dream world, or the mindscape, or the nightmare frontier, or whatever you want to call it. They can’t just have sex and say heyyyyy we have a new alien baby that’s gonna last another eleventy billion years. No, they can’t do that. They’ll find a way to form a surrogate child, and it’s usually through a human woman, a virgin, a whore, doesn’t matter. In Catholicism(please don’t kill me, I’m Catholic, okay?) it’s the birth of Jesus Christ through the virgin Mary. In Star Wars, it’s Anakin Skywalker. All theories for Jesus and Anakin Skywalker and similar cases aside, it all comes with the thought that they’ll bring balance, peace, order, etc. A rebirth that is heralded by them if you will. But Oedon, being the mindless fuck that he is(like the Lovecraftian god Azathoth), wasn’t really doing anything, but it was the Yharnamites’ prerogative due to his influence to administer his blood in themselves that eventually well, some of them had to be impregnated, and most of them just went nuts. Ironic that one of the impregnated women was a whore, which only cemented the helplessness and volatility of humankind as opposed to the gods of the universe. And now these aliens have a bastard child, if nobody comes around to step on the poor thing anyway. It won’t be just an ordinary alien baby, either. It’s the herald of a new, anarchic age. This is why the Moon Presence intends to put an end to it. Ironic that in Bloodborne, you fight the Moon Presence as a final boss, but when you think about it in a more thorough context, this guy who’s supposed to represent Nyarlathotep or Satan was just doing humanity a solid against another interdimensional being who’s supposed to represent Azathoth or God. This further suggests the futility of human-centric thinking.
In Kubo’s story, his grandfather was hellbent on taking the boy’s other eye. He wasn’t interested in blood ministration like the crazed out populous of Yharnam. He focused on the other way, which was autoenucleation. What more did the old man want? He’s already akin to the gods. My guess is that he and his other two daughters achieved enlightenment much later in their lives, and it’s a safe bet that their transcendence fell a little short. So, with Kubo’s humanity out of the way before he even learns to talk, they thought, he’ll be able to achieve a higher state of being than them. It was all about being part of the nightmare realm and his grandson achieving god status. That’s why his grandfather wants that other eye so bad. Infants are always the ones who have the strongest potential to shape the future of the universe when alien gods are involved. And with Kubo at the helm, the old man can rule beside him.
Coraline’s Beldam and OTGW’s the Beast are both inclined towards consuming children. Both are omnipotent only in their own dimension and are reliant on sharing an existence with someone with duality(because they have no concept of it despite their claimed perfection), and someone they can watch over, much like the Moon Presence is to Gehrman in Bloodborne. The Beldam gets her life source from neglected and possibly codependent children she tempts with fantasies and traps them in her nightmare world. My guess is that she doesn’t kill the children outright once their eyes are replaced with buttons. They’ll stay there for a while until they get smart and want to leave. That’s when she eats them and find another source of supply, leaving the eyes/souls of the damned children to be imprisoned there forever, and codependent children are easy to fool and groom. Coraline was wise enough to see it early and that was the cause of the Beldam’s downfall.
After all, like Gehrman, it’s more a curse than an honor to be indebted to an outer god. You can’t just get out whenever you want. When you want to get out, you have to eliminate the source of the problem with your own hands. You have to kill a god and claim an existence greater than it. This is what Wirt did in OTGW.
In OTGW, it was likely the Woodsman’s daughter making a deal with the Beast that caused the hysteria in the woods to begin with and forced it in the state that it was in then into an everpresent dimension of damnation like the city of Yharnam in Bloodborne, and all before Wirt’s generation inhabited that town. The Beast saw it fit to be his new home, but in order to sustain it, the Woodsman had to keep a very specific lantern lit, the soul lantern, and it is lit only by edelwood, which was revealed later in the story to be souls of lost children. The Beast, being an outer god, cannot operate past his dimension, and has to wait for children to fall into accidents in order for their souls to wander there. This is where he wears them out and forces them into a state of submission so he could exist. Wirt was strong enough to withstand this. Everybody knows, in the story, before the Beast was confronted by Wirt and annihilated after, the Woodsman’s daughter was revealed to be dead the entire time and it wasn’t her soul that was in the lantern, but the Beast’s. The Woodsman was fooled into servitude thinking there was an end to keeping it lit.
But it was Wirt who said this. This is going to be controversial, but bear with me on this one. Wirt MAY have been wrong in the sense that it was the Beast’s soul that was in the lantern. The Beast was an outer god. He had no soul, he consumed them in the form of children’s remains as edelwood trees. Wirt called him out on his bullshit, sure, and it led to the Woodsman coming to his senses and Wirt’s escape with Greg, but you can bet a million bucks that it was the Woodsman’s daughter that was indeed in that same lantern. Refer to the above paragraphs when I stated that in Bloodborne, while Gherman was serving the Moon Presence, a winter lantern representing a person he loved kept watch over him the entire time. You can literally say it’s the same case with the Woodsman, and it’s his daughter’s soul in the lantern keeping him company for the entire duration of his suffering, along with the rest of the other children that were fed to the Beast over time. The lantern also could’ve been getting brighter and brighter for every edelwood that was fed to it, making the Beast stronger and making the Woodsman even more blind to what was really going on, like how the Beldam in Coraline blinds codependent children to her lies and how Bill Cipher twists deals so he can break the Rift and open the nightmare frontier. The lantern was merely a representation of a deal. And killing the fire in it meant freeing the Woodsman’s daughter, himself, and everyone in the woods of the curse. That’s why when the credits roll the woods is finally in a state of peace and everyone is back to normal and regained their sanity. And again if you look at the edelwood trees, the Beast’s true form and artist interpretations of the outer god Nyarlathotep, you’d be surprised how many striking similarities there are with them, design-wise. And what did he look like 99% of the time as a disguise? A man dressed in black. Also, chopping down edelwood meant that the Woodsman was, in a way, killing children without him knowing, which, if we tie it with Bloodborne again, is similar to how Gehrman and the other hunters are tasked to end Oedon’s curse that was going to produce alien babies, but without them knowing as well. It was the Moon Presence who knew of it. Except the Beast is a selfish asshole and the Moon Presence is a bro.
Lastly(and I’ll keep it short for some because I think I explained most of everything already)
Interdimensional influences on the immediate world around them Okay now Bloodborne was so smooth in dealing with this because the premise was that Yharnam was a city festering with what was known as the “Scourge of the Beast”. Even the smartest cookies would think, oh that’s kinda like Bram Stoker’s Dracula, right? Werewolves, Mr. Hyde, Witches, Vampires, etc. But halfway into the story it was actually revealed that this beastly scourge happened because the inhabitants of Yharnam thought it was a good idea to practice autoenucleation and blood ministration using Oedon’s blood and commune with the heavens. Oedon’s blood was hidden in the Yharnam subcities that were buried a long time ago and tomb prospectors and scholars just thought hey this looks neat I’m gonna inject myself with this now and make a religion out of it bye. Bad idea. There was one Yharnamite who was sensitive to Oedon’s speech despite it being incomprehensible to the rest of the world. This was the runesmith Caryll, and when he etched a symbol for Oedon it contained the symbol for the woman’s vagina(the impregnation of Yharnamite women and the alien babies) and the periodic symbol for mercury. Uh oh, that means Oedon’s blood had mercury in it.
Look above in the earlier sections for when I mentioned mercury.
Mercury was toxic for, well, anyone. It causes a complete meltdown of the central nervous system. So when the Yharnamites used it in blood ministration, they actually killed their entire civilization, and not only that , their humanity as well, and almost everyone in Yharnam turned into monsters as a permanent result. They were so obsessed with communing with the gods that they got it, and couldn’t handle it, and lost themselves in the process. Some of the stronger-willed residents became akin with the gods, on a much lower level however, just like Kubo’s grandfather, and lived either in the nightmare frontier working for Gehrman and the Moon Presence as paleblood hunters, or still drunk with the pursuit of enlightenment in the physical Yharnam. And when some of them bled, they would bleed out mercury. People became the werewolves, the Mr. Hydes, the witches, the wraiths, etc. all because of humans trifling with things they shouldn’t have. In addition to all this, the term paleblood may also allude to how it’s a designation only given BY the Moon Presence to hunters. And pale blood means white blood, and white blood cells, in biology, are our body’s repair cells. Meaning that the Moon Presence was trying to undo the disease that Oedon’s corrupt blood is spreading, but that may be stretching it another way, too.
Psychonauts- the psitanium. For the longest time a lot of the inhabitants around Lake Oblongata suffered because of this and caused the mass hysteria that would eventually lead to the building of an asylum within it and the generations of free-roaming psychics across the earth. Lake Oblongata and the Whispering Rock campgrounds were a hotspot for cosmic energy and everyone and everything in it were effected. Hell, even the animals developed psychic powers.
Paranorman, assuming that Aggie’s curse was also the cause of an elder god, it directly affected Blithe Hollow for 300 years.
Gravity Falls, where Bill Cipher was, strange monsters roamed about. The closest to an eldritch abomination like Bill Cipher in Gravity Falls was the island monster in the mini episode “The Tooth”. I may be wrong but I think it’s the only other entity there that speaks backwards, a trait owned by Bill and an actual requirement to summon him. It’s a language the nightmare frontier understands. It’s not just me. There’s just too many things in pop culture that says backward talking equals demonic chanting. Hell, it’s in the movie The Exorcist. And so far all I’ve observed was the devil = a cosmic entity who just loves punking everyone including other cosmic entities. And the island monster resided in the center of the lake, and underwater. Again, there’s your underwater theme. In any case, it was mostly Bill Cipher and the leakage of the nightmare realm that were the causes of the strange happenings in Gravity Falls, and it only got worse when the Rift broke. The aliens who settled in Gravity Falls we probably scientists who investigated the place themselves, and got destroyed by Bill Cipher when they knew too much. Stanford only repeated their mistakes. It’s the same with the Yharnamites in Bloodborne repeating the same mistakes as the ancient civilization before it. Oh and you know what other movie that had eldritch gods punking humanity and are actually the sole reason monsters roam the earth? Cabin in the Woods. It’s fucking amazing.
OTGW- the dimension where the Beast entraps people and children also experienced some form of deterioration over time. It probably began in the same state the woods was in before the Beast made the deal with the Woodsman’s daughter(considering a deal was made anyway). It was soon filled with monsters and the people in it became mad. Some even turned into animals. And the children who ended up in that dimension soon gave up existing after feeling lost for too long and became edelwood as food for the Beast.
Coraline-The Pink Palace was placed under a dome of cosmic energy that the Beldam inhabited, much like Oedon was to Yharnam, Bill Cipher was to Gravity Falls, and how The Beast was in OTGW. Strange how their omnipotence is still confined within a closed space, when all that they’re supposed to be are otherwise. But that’s my human brain rationalizing things. Notice how the Pink Palace and the immediate vicinity around it seem so barren. It’s like the place was purposely rid of life so that the children who’ll live in it will become bored and eventually fall prey to the Beldam and her lush temptations. The Beldam was controlling the entire plantation surrounding the Pink Palace. It makes sense that Coraline’s family knew some farming and that they were able to plant things easily after the story, because the Beldam then already died and had no more influence around the Pink Palace.
That about sums up everything I’ve observed. Fucking hell I’ve been writing and rewriting all these for days, and I’m pretty sure I missed a million other things because I’m just an idiot maybe and I’m actually not that smart. But I hope a lot of it still makes sense especially as to why it actually works when the characters in these stories are put in situations where they interact. That’s because they live in the same universe. That’s how it is to me and many others.
I hope you enjoyed reading this. I’m so tired now hhhhhhh my mind is going to explode from all the thinking I did
random hc: raz hates going down to Milla's underwater labs, but fakes being perfecctly fine even though he can constantly see the hand of galachio trying to break the glass
I’m sorry, but I have to disagree. When Raz had to go to the bottom of Lake Oblongata, he did it and he did it without flinching.
Even that, my headcanon is that Raz loves aquariums. He loves water creatures. He loves just how peaceful things can be underwater despite having a curse. He is afraid of drowning; afraid of what hands can do to him, but is it really the fault of the water?
I know I’m being a little harsh but I’ve been running this blog for two or three years and Raz got pestered with water questions. I don’t enjoy the fandom idea of having Raz deathly afraid of water, even to the point where he does not even want to touch it. He’s been close to water many times in his life that he has learned his limits. He knows how to be careful. He understands his strange inability to swim and works around it without it having to be a daily weight on his shoulders.
Raz fears drowning and will always fear drowning- In this blog, he also fears suffocation and he has a phobia for enclosed spaces due to this feeling. But for every fear, we as a species have the capability of getting out of a situation we dislike. Even with this blog’s Raz’s claustrophobia, he still found a way to punch out of the Brain Tumbler Egg when he is suffocating and he ALWAYS drags himself back to shore after getting caught by his curse. Because we all have weaknesses, but we all find ways around them to survive.
So… I think Raz actually will enjoy Milla’s underwater lab. It allows him for the moment to experience something underwater that he is unable to do on his own.
And, how else can he visit his friend in her natural habitat?
The lone tree out on the rock in the middle of the lake is eye-candy, but I want to talk about the birch trees. The trunks and branches of the birch trees are thin and even, like pipes or poles. Since Psychonauts has existing movement mechanics around those - climbing poles and trapeze-swinging from pipe to pipe - they apply those effectors to the trees as well. The stand of trees forms an obstacle course with an upgrade piece as the reward for making the jumps and climbs.
A lot of games use foliage as either decoration or as mechanical topology, and the times the two sets do merge it tends to involve a lower-fidelity foliage representation (think a vine texture on a wall denoting its climbability). I have a lot of respect for Psychonaut’s willingness to examine its own preconceptions and not sacrifice foliage fidelity or the expectations it teaches the player about similar shapes.