uhh excuse me? thank my fans? i don’t think so swetty :) i got where i am today because of ME :) because i worked hard, not because of my fans :) don't agree? then stop watching me and see what happens :)
IF YOU STOP WATCHING ME THEN YOU'RE BASICALLY CONDEMNING ME AND LAINEY TO HOMELESSNESS, POVERTY, AND DEATH. I'M NOT TRYING TO SAY THAT I WOULD KILL MYSELF IF I DIDN'T HAVE YOUTUBE, BUT I WOULD KILL MYSELF IF I DIDN'T HAVE YOUTUBE. AND IT WOULD BE THE FAULT OF THE PEOPLE WHO WOULDN'T PAY ME. IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT? FOR US TO DIE BY SUICIDE OR STARVATION? DO YOU REALLY WANT OUR BLOOD TO BE ON YOUR HANDS, JUST BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T CARE ABOUT US ENOUGH TO DONATE 50 MEASLY CENTS? SOME """FAN""" YOU ARE, CLEARLY SHOWS THAT YOU'RE A FAKE FAN. MIGHT AS WELL JUST BECOME A JUDGE AND SENTENCE US TO DEATH. IF YOU REALLY LOVED US THEN YOU WOULD WANT TO GIVE US ALL YOUR MONEY. THANKS A LOT, FAKE FAN. I WOULD NEVER HAVE DONE THIS TO A YOUTUBER WHO I CARED ABOUT. OH AND DON'T FORGET TO SEND FLOWERS TO MY GRAVE WHEN I SHOOT MYSELF OUT OF DEPRESSION BECAUSE YOU WOULDN'T PAY TO WATCH MY VIDEOS.
In light of recent events, here is a post detailing Greg’s relationships with underage girls. Getting in trouble with the legal age of consent is nothing new to Greg and something he has a lot of experience defending himself for. I hope this sheds some light to the current situation with his forums and exploiting his underage fans.
In this screenshot, Shiloh recounts her abusive relationship with Greg again but with more details into his warped sexual fantasies. Near the end Shiloh mentions how young she was when she was taken advantage of and announces her fear that Taylor could experience the same abuse. She makes a point to mention her age being the same as Taylor’s when they began their relationship with Greg.
Greg knowingly entered a relationship with Taylor while she was underage and attending high school. Greg met with lawyers frequently to confirm the legality of their relationship, while Taylor’s father objected that it was illegal in his opinion. The age of consent in New Mexico being 17. Greg and Taylor met only 10 days making contact online and had sex the first day they met in person. Greg obviously does not take issue with having sexual relationships with minors. Greg also married Taylor secretly from her parents only a month after turning 18! Which doesn’t seem totally underhanded and sketchy at all! /s
Billie joined their relationship in the end of 2015/early 2016 when she was 18 years old. Age of consent in Billie’s home state, Virginia, is 18. I find it curious that Greg seems to carefully check the laws before pursuing anything. He’s aware he is doing something morally wrong and knows he can get into some legal shit if he isn’t careful.
Also here is a screenshot of Taylor patronizing Billie for her age even though she was even younger when she got with Greg.
Greg like to harp on to the fact that a lot of his criticizers seem to point out the fact that he’s been in multiple questionable relationships with minors, and still feels like he hasn’t done anything wrong. The fact that this has happened not once, but twice shows his true intentions when it comes to children. Greg likes to forget the fact that teenagers are still children.
His Audience in General
OnisionDrama made a great post outlining Greg’s target demographic and why YouTube analytics aren’t exactly a valid reference when trying to determine the average age of an Onision fan. I know personally I lied about my age online from the time I was 12-17, which is the exact age range of Greg’s followers. Here we have multiple polls from 2012-2016 showing the majority of fans are indeed minors. Which is why most of the girls featured in his “body positivity” videos are underage.
Here is a poll from Taylor as well, showing most of their shared demographic being under 16 years old.
Sarah is a friend of Taylor’s. They began talking when she was 14. After her sixteenth birthday, Greg and Taylor started housing her officially. She moved in with them around Halloween 2016 and has been there since. The age of consent is 16 in Washington. Notice how once again, Greg calculated the perfect time to move her in after she became legal.
What I feel to be pretty damning against Onision’s case of “dindu nuffin wrong” was the email scandal that happened in 2013. Someone sent Greg an email claiming to be a model/actress that would like to collaborate sometime, she mentioned being 17 years old, and attached a topless photo. Greg then pursued and asked for her facebook for more pictures and to communicate further. After this came out to the public, Greg began the process of covering his own ass at first by saying “I didn’t see her age!” then later changing it to “I never opened the attachment!”.
Another piece of damning evidence is how much Greg has announced that he isn’t a therapist. He has no desire to help his followers.
He never wanted to offer guidance to his audience. He dismissed and out right ignored any fans emailing him for help/advice. But now he has changed his tune since it’s more convenient for him to act like his videos are therapy for those who need it, rather than admitting he was asking for pictures of minors’ bodies.
It’s also important to note context. Greg says the photos are harmless and nothing you wouldn’t see in a public swimming pool. The context of underwear though is that is IS private. Swimwear serves an obvious purpose for being comfortable clothing specially to swim in. Underwear’s purpose is to protect your genitals, it is meant for privacy, to be worn underneath clothing. The hard difference between the two is obvious, swimwear is public, while underwear is private.
So understand that photos of underage girls alone in their room, posing in bra and panties, will always been seen in a sexual context.
So what we can gather from all of the above is:
Greg has no issues being in sexual relationships with minors. As long as it’s barely within the legal limits, he has no moral opposition to dating children.
Greg invites minors into his life and supports relationships with minors even as young as 13.
Greg is aware of his demographic’s age and takes advantage of their naivety for sexually themed photographs of minors.
Greg never intended his “body positivity” videos to be helpful. Greg never had any intentions on helping his fans.
Greg is not qualified to comment on the health of developing girls’ bodies. Greg has no medical certifications nor any experience in the medical field. This includes therapy.
Greg somehow doesn’t understand that you legally can’t make money from minors’ images without parental consent. Minors cannot legally consent without their parents permission.
No matter how many excuses Greg comes up with, there’s no way he can talk himself out of being a hebephile piece of trash.
This was incredibly hard to watch. It breaks my heart that Lainey is literally crying from the things he’s saying to her, and he continues to not only say things that he can clearly see is making her cry, but is doing it in a joking, ~charming~ tone of voice on purpose so that he can later say, “Hey, it was just a JOKE! Stop being so sensitive! Lighten up, get a sense of humor.” Constantly hurting your partner and then telling them that it was just a joke is a classic sign of abuse. She’s so used to his bullying that she laughs it off and blames herself for crying even though she clearly told him that she was hurting his feelings and he kept going anyway that she doesn’t even bother to stand up for herself. She knows that he’s just going to invalidate her feelings and then leave her feeling guilty and blaming herself for “not being able to take a joke”.
I think the worst part of this whole thing is that he then published this video of himself making his wife cry to further humiliate her, with (I’m sure) Lainey telling him that she didn’t want him to (or not bothering to say anything at all, because he’s going to do it anyway and she doesn’t want to start a fight).
And with his fanbase crumbling and YouTube paying him much less than he used to, I’m sure that Lainey is bearing the brunt of his anger, rage, bullying, and need for control.
Edit: So, I just added this video to my queue to be published later today, but I wanted to add this because I thought it was relevant.
I’m not very good at reading body language, but I was picking up seriously abusive vibes from this video. I decided to bring it downstairs and have my dad watch it - he was in prison for about ten years, and then a social worker for another ten after he got out, so he’s very good at reading people, especially their non-verbal cues - body language, tone of voice, facial expressions, mannerisms, that sort of thing.
I went downstairs and had him watch the video, to get his opinion. I didn’t tell him what I wanted him to say: I just told him, “I want you to watch this video and then tell me what impression you get from it.” That’s all. I pressed play. About halfway through the video, he paused it, turned to me and said, “Why do you want me to watch this?” I said, “I just want to know what impression you get from them, about their relationship.” And he said:
“This man is a total narcissist and he broke her so much that she can’t fight back. He is destroying her.”
I am not exaggerating at all. Those were his exact words. This man does not know anything about Onision. He has never watched his videos before, nor even heard of him. He made a 100% correct interpretation of their relationship based on watching the first five minutes of this video.
If this doesn’t convince you that Onision is an abusive narcissist, then nothing will.
Edit #2: I just had one of my friends watch this video too, to see what impression he would get as well - I was just curious at this point to see what anybody thought about this video. And, surprise surprise, he said the exact same thing that my dad did. This is what he said, word for word:
"I feel that girl is not very happy in the relationship. She seems like she’s stuck and doesn’t know how to get out, and he’s completely happy and fine. He is literally oblivious to her needs and what she likes.“
That’s two complete strangers who have never heard Onision’s name before who watched this video and immediately came away with the impression - with no prompting or leading questions by me - that their relationship is not healthy.
Seriously though, when I was unemployed I ate rice and beans (all I could afford) and sold basically everything I owned. They have 15 types of cereal on their counter, so much clothes that it’s pilled up around the house and stuffed into their kids toys, and a brand spanking new Foosball table (which lainey focused on and stated that yes, it is new).
Gee-wilikers, I remember buying brand new Foosball tables right after rationing my rice for the week. That’s totally something poor people do!
Wow, what an asshole. Acting like people who question Lain for changing their story and gender-identity several times are the biggest assholes on earth, but he himself is allowed to make such rude and transphobic comments towards Blaire. Disgusting double standards.
Jaclyn Glenn released a video about an hour ago talking about how absolutely devastated she is, because Social Repose cheated on her while on tour. And what was Onision’s response?
He’s demanding that she owe him an apology for being wrong about dating him.
Normally I write pretty wordy posts outlining the exact nature of my disgust with him, but I have nothing, you guys. Nothing. This is horrific. The absolute fucking gall it takes to claim to care about somebody as a friend, but then make their emotional devastation all about yourself and how right you were? I’m fucking pissed.
And Lainey is laughing about it on her livestream right now. Any sympathy I had for her just flew out the fucking window.
Today a 31 year old man posted a video telling his teenage ex girlfriend that he was justified in wanting her to disfigure herself because she didn’t conform to his expectations of her.
He vilified her; attempted to isolate her from her family; posted her most private information online; belittled her intelligence; attacked her family and shamed her for refusing to adhere to his kink. He claimed that the video was to show future partners what kind of vile liar she really was. This man was misogynistic in the extreme.
Clearly this poor girl has escaped something horrible but her ordeal is far from over. Onision has a huge fan base from a very long online career and these rabid masses will probably make her life a living hell for a while. Although it is telling that he made comments on the video “approved only.”
So much love, very wow.
Seriously what a prick. If my husband talked to me like that I’d really start to wonder why I was married to him. Yes, if I was married I’d expect my husband to help point out any problems I had with my diet but there is a much nicer way to go about that instead of, you know, putting someone on blast over social media
On March 16th, 2017, Onision uploaded a video titled “
My Ex Is Targeting My Spouse?”(here is a mirror in case you don’t want to give him views). In this video, Onision explains that a girl named Veronika, a previous friend of his ex-fiance Shiloh, had written him an email trying to warn Onision and Lainey of Shiloh possibly contacting them. The entire basis of the email is written in speculation; Veronika makes various bizarre claims that Shiloh is still in love with Onision, refuses to get a tattoo of his name removed, and that Shiloh may potentially be targeting Lainey to get to Onision once again after five years of separation.
The video description is as follows:
My spouse was warned via email by my ex girlfriend’s ex close friend that my ex girlfriend may be targeting my spouse. In the past this ex has befriended people I’ve been romantically involved with & tried to get them to refuse to associate with me. In a previous video I discussed my spouse being informed that one of my ex’s was actually convince to stay away from me only to wind up dating me herself, basically making room for her to step in using lies to convince people close to me that I’m something I’m not… it’s intense, especially considering this person is five years in my past.
This video comes as a surprise to everyone well versed enough in the events that followed Onision and Shiloh’s breakup. Since they had separated, Shiloh deleted all her social media that had been tied to Onision, started fresh with all new online alias’ and privatized all her accounts. Shiloh completely stepped out of the limelight in response to the massive amount of negativity and harassment she was receiving from Onision’s followers. The last thing Shiloh wants to do is associate with this previous abuser of her’s.
Here is the only response Shiloh has made in regards to the drama Veronika and Onision had attempted to jump-start.
After that a week had gone by and nothing really ever came of Veronika’s accusations. On March 24th, another friend of Shiloh’s took to twitter to tell Onision that all the claims made in the email by Veronika were false. Everyone could see that there was no evidence to support Veronika’s claims and that the email was sent with malicious intent to smear Shiloh’s name once more, using Onision as a way to spread this misinformation to his massive audience.
Something interesting that came up was Veronika claiming that she had never sent the email in the first place. Veronika is now vehemently denying any involvement whatsoever, despite the substantial amount of evidence pointing otherwise.
Veronika in fact shifts the blame to an anti-Onision blog as being the source of the email, despite showing zero proof. She even goes so far to say that she lacks the ability to even WRITE AN EMAIL so it couldn’t have possibly been her doing. It’s extremely suspicious to use an excuse as poor as that, but to also try and frame some random ~anti-o~ blog as the source. In my personal experience, the anti blogs on tumblr are very respectful towards Greg’s exes’ privacy, most won’t even use their real names when referring to them (using nicknames or initials instead).
Now let’s look at some of the evidence against Veronika.
Veronika had a twitter account under the name @veron_liddle, which has since been deleted. Numerous tweets were screenshot showing her intense hatred of Shiloh, and the content of these tweets match up extremely well to the information that was sent in the email. Veronika also used this twitter account to post hate towards Onision, and support to Social Repose, Jaclyn Glenn, Ayalla, Billie, and even Joy Sparkle BS.
Not only did Veronika obsessively subtweet hate towards Shiloh for months, she also made a video about Shiloh and attempted to use lolcow to spread it. Everyone quickly noticed Veronika’s ulterior motive and ignored her. The video has since been deleted as it seems Veronika did not get the reaction she was expecting.
An anonymous user even points out the possibility of Veronika using Onision to bring down Shiloh once again.
Veronika even has a tumblr account where she admits that she is anti-Shiloh and will use her blog to post hate against her.
And now what I consider the most damning evidence of all– Veronika’s friend admits that Veronika wrote the email in various tweets to Onision, begging him to censor her name so she won’t receive backlash.
So Veronika, even if you claim zero involvement with the malicious email sent to Onision, it’s extremely clear that you are the one responsible. Veronika has a clear motive and has tried to create a personal army against Shiloh. She has gone to twitter, tumblr, youtube, lolcow, and even Onision himself with hopes of bringing Shiloh down. When each attempt proved fruitless, she tried to delete the evidence as shown with her twitter account and youtube video.
So what I can gather from all of this is: Veronika is a petty and hateful person set on destroying a previous friend of her’s, and will even try to use a KNOWN ABUSER to get her revenge.
Also Onision is too lazy to fact check anything he hears, reveling in speculation to start drama at any cost. Onision doesn’t care about the truth, he only cares about bringing down his exes of over five years ago.