knight anders

i hate seeing people whine about ‘poor baby anders why would anyone hate him he did nothing wrong! he just wants peace for mages!!’ Because, boy! There are so many reasons to hate him. So I’m gonna list out all the reasons I hate this shitty ass character :) so sorry if it’s long

obviously, he blew up a chantry and killed a lot of innocent people. Let me repeat that because some reason people think that’s okay. Anders blew up a place of worship and killed innocent people.

Not only that but it made Meredith call for the right of annulment which gave templars the right to kill every mage in the circle. So not only did he kill innocent people in the chantry that he fucking blew up, innocent mages of the circle can also die.(depends on if you side with templars.)

The conversation he had with Aveline about her dead husband, which obviously crossed a line.

  • Anders: So you married a templar, huh?
  • Aveline: What of it?
  • Anders: Are they all as dirty as they seem?
  • Aveline: What?
  • Anders: Did he ever ask you to play “the naughty mage and the helpless recruit?” Maybe the “secret desire demon and the upstanding knight?”
  • Aveline: That’s disgusting!
  • Anders: I hear it’s quite popular.

The way he acts towards Fenris and Merrill if Hawke is in a relationship with either of them is disgusting.

  • Anders: I know it isn’t my place to criticize, but…
  • Anders: Are you sure about Fenris?
  • Anders: He seems less a man to me than a wild dog.
  • Hawke: You just don’t know him.
  • Anders: I know as much as I’m ever likely to.
  • Fenris: That’s right, mage.
  • Anders: He has let one bad experience color his whole world. Surely you want someone more openminded?
  • Fenris: A mage and a hypocrite. What company you keep.

He compares him to a dog and says ‘ONE’ bad experience made him like this?? O FUCKING KAY ANDERS

(If Hawke romanced Merrill but also slept with Isabela)

  • Anders: Hawke was a fool to let you move in. You’ll only betray him/her. That’s all your kind can do.
  • Merrill: Why do you only do this to me? Are you jealous? You don’t get upset about Hawke and Isabela.
  • Anders: You can’t really get jealous of someone for sleeping with Isabela. It’s just…understood.
  • Anders: She’s like a side dish. She comes with the meal.

Literally he’s disgusting

  • Anders: I know it isn’t my place to criticize, but… are you sure about Merrill? She acts sweet, but she’ll never choose you over her demon.
  • Hawke: Merrill loves me.

(If Merrill is in the party)

  • Merrill: What right do you have to question us? Is your Justice any different?
  • Anders: Yes. Keep your illusions then. Maker knows I won’t be the one to change them.

How can I forget! He approves to giving Fenris back to Danarius! You get approval from him by sending a slave back to their master. That in itself is enough for me to fucking hate him. He fucking whines about mages needing freedom from the circles and templars but? fenris hates mages? Better send him back to a life of being a slave. :)

lol I’m definitely forgetting some things but I need to get ready for school so this’ll do.  

And to anyone that tries to come and defend him, I DON’T CARE. I literally don’t want to hear what you have to say to try and defend him. I don’t.

Disliking certain characters or disliking the actions or traits in said characters in the Dragon Age fandom is almost considered blasphemy. You confess to not liking someone or certain personality traits and people look at you like you just confessed to supporting dog fighting.

For example, I say that I don’t like Anders (DA2 Anders anyway) and people act like I’ve committed a heinous crime. I can say that I hate how rude Sera is to people who believe in the Elvhen gods and how she will literally make you choose her or your faith/ culture if you romance her as an elf, and I get accused of hating lesbians.

On the other side, liking fan hated characters is similar. For example, I like Meredith as a villian, but of course the fandom would rip me apart for it. I can say I like Empress Celene and people would get so pissed at me for it.

Look, it’s fiction. I’ll confess that I take it a bit too seriously at times as well, but don’t go out of your way to harass and attack someone just because they like or dislike a character. 

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Although they’ll hurt you make damn sure they’ve heard you
They will not forget (x)

@the-jade-goblin replied to your post “You are totally right about Anders’ stans, and I say this as someone…”

 Woah I think I definitely missed something in Anders dialogue bc I don’t remember him saying anything racist, sexist and abusive o.O could you elaborate? I’m sure once the dialogue is pointed out to me I’ll be 100% aware of it but its been a while since I played DA2 and can’t think of anything bad off the top of my head

Where to begin? Please note that this is only a tiny fraction, not a complete list.

Examples of racism:
- telling an elven Warden Commander that elves, with their history of being treated as second class citizens and facing huge discrimination throughout Thedas including literal slavery, don’t have it as bad as he (Anders) does
- telling Merrill that her culture and religious beliefs are incorrect and mansplaining magic and spirits to her

Examples of misogyny:
- sexually harassing Aveline
- calling Isabela a side-dish
- saying that Isabela is only good for sex
- telling Merrill that betrayal is all “your kind,” meaning women, can do
- talking about the “demon behind her virginal smile” in reference to Merrill, saying that Merrill is using her sexuality to manipulate Hawke
- saying outright that the only reason to help Velanna is because she’s sexy and her missing sister might also be sexy

Examples of abuse:
- calling Fenris a wild dog and an out of control beast
- trying to gaslight Fenris over multiple banters about how slavery couldn’t have possibly been all that bad
- telling Fenris that he should kill himself
- telling Fenris that he deserved to have been killed by Danarius
- telling Hawke that they’re in the wrong and actively hurting him for turning down his advances
- telling a rivalmanced Hawke that he could kill them
-  manipulating Hawke into helping him with the bomb by threatening to end a romance and by using the textbook abuse technique “if you really care about me you’ll do what I tell you to”
- lying to Aveline about her husband and trying to guilt her into joining his cause
- pretty much every line of his romance is textbook abuse, and it’s triggering for me, so I’ll ask you to look that up yourself

Here’s a video (not mine) with some specific examples, and I’ll list some banters under a cut.

https://youtu.be/vfZWtOY2v5w

Anders: So you married a templar, huh?
   Aveline: What of it?
   Anders: Are they all as dirty as they seem?
   Aveline: What?
   Anders: Did he ever ask you to play “the naughty mage and the helpless recruit?” Maybe the “secret desire demon and the upstanding knight?”
   Aveline: That’s disgusting!
   Anders: I hear it’s quite popular. 

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    Anders: Your husband agrees with me.
   Aveline: About what?
   Anders: He thinks the knight-commander’s mad. He told me she’s gone behind your back to investigate guardsmen she suspects as secret mages.
   Aveline: Even if that were true, he wouldn’t tell you.
   Anders: He won’t fight for her when the time comes. Would you turn against your own husband?
   Aveline: I don’t know if you’re lying or crazy.
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    Fenris: Is there something you want, Anders?
   Anders: You really don’t have the temperament for a slave.
   Fenris: Is that a compliment or an insult?
   Anders: I’m just wondering how your master didn’t kill you.
   Fenris: How have the templars not killed you?
   Anders: I’m charming.
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    Anders: Did you ever think about killing yourself?
   Fenris: I could ask you the same thing.
   Anders: I’m serious. To get out of slavery, to escape Danarius… don’t tell me you never thought about it.
   Fenris: I did not. To kill oneself is a sin in the eyes of the Maker.
   Anders: You… believe that?
   Fenris: I try to. Some things must be worse than slavery.
   Anders: Some things are worse than death.
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    Anders: I can’t imagine what Hawke sees in you.
   Fenris: It is done. Leave it be.
   Anders: Well, good. I always knew she/he had some sense.
   Fenris: Do not make light of this. Leaving was the hardest thing I’ve ever done.
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    Anders: I know it isn’t my place to criticize, but…
   Anders: Are you sure about Fenris?
   Anders: He seems less a man to me than a wild dog.
   Hawke: You just don’t know him.
   Anders: I know as much as I’m ever likely to.
   Fenris: That’s right, mage.
   Anders: He has let one bad experience color his whole world. Surely you want someone more openminded?
   Fenris: A mage and a hypocrite. What company you keep.
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    Merrill: Are you all right?
   Anders: I nearly killed an innocent girl. How could I be all right?
   Merrill: I’m sorry.
   Anders: You’re sorry? For me? This could be you! You could be the next monster threatening helpless girls!
   Merrill: Anders… There’s no such thing as a good spirit. There never was.
   Merrill: All spirits are dangerous. I understood that. I’m sorry that you didn’t.
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    Anders: Hawke was a fool to let you move in. You’ll only betray him/her. That’s all your kind can do.
   Merrill: Why do you only do this to me? Are you jealous? You don’t get upset about Hawke and Isabela.
   Anders: You can’t really get jealous of someone for sleeping with Isabela. It’s just…understood.
   Anders: She’s like a side dish. She comes with the meal.
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    Anders: I know it isn’t my place to criticize, but… are you sure about Merrill? She acts sweet, but she’ll never choose you over her demon.
   Hawke: Merrill loves me.

   Merrill: What right to you have to question us? Is your Justice any different?
   Anders: Yes. Keep your illusions then. Maker knows I won’t be the one to change them.
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    Anders: Is that supposed to be Andraste’s face on your crotch?
   Sebastian: What?
   Anders: That… belt buckle thing. Is that Andraste?
   Sebastian: My father had this armor commissioned when I took my vows as a brother.
   Anders: I’m just not sure I’d want the Maker seeing me shove His bride’s head between my legs every morning.
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There’s so much more both in Awakening and DA2, but I shouldn’t have to list everything because even just a small part of it is terrible.

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If anyone ever wondered what I did when I was 16 here is your answer. 

So, I needed to share the pain a bit. On my last playtrough of DA2, I took Aveline, Fenris and Anders to the Fade. First Fenris betrayed me to the pride demon, but I had Aveline to protect me, then she betrayed me to the desire demon and whipped mine and Anders’ ass. Shit, she’s really hard to kill!