What are your thoughts on Lovino supposedly having Arabic blood?
Well, anon! I’ve always liked the sound of it since having heard of it from where I believe the concept came from; according to Himaruya himself “South Italy’s hair is colored darker than Italy’s due to having Arabic blood” (x). In addition, it can also be supported culturally and historically!
Islamic rule occurred in Sicily and some parts of Southern Italy from around about the first century (x), and they reached as far as Rome! Whilst they were there, they also built many structures- places of prayer, for example- that still exist to this day! Most of this did occur in Sicily, and even Malta- and whilst you could argue that Sicily is a separate entity to Southern Italy, there is mention that Romano “represent[ed] either kingdom of Sicily and Naples (which later became “The Kingdom Of The Two Sicilies”), which were part of Southern Italy and wound up under the control of Spain.” (x). As Romano was the one who lived with Span in the anime and manga, I would say that it isn’t too drastic of an assumption to make.
It happened a long time ago, but that doesn’t mean that it can’t still have an affect. For example, the Norman and Roman invasions of Britain still have something of an impact, and a similar argument could be made in regards to North Italy and how he once was a part of the Holy Roman Empire; it is said that he “share[s] Germanic blood” (x)
The Palazzo Reale di Napoli is a palace, museum, and historical tourist destination located in central Naples. It was one of the 4 residences near Naples used by the Bourbon Kings during their rule of the Kingdom of the Two Sicilies (1734-1860). With the arrival of Charles III of Spain in 1734, the palace became the royal residence of the Bourbons. Upon his marriage to Maria Amalia of German Saxony, Francesco De Mura and Domenico Antonio Vaccaro helped remodel the interior. It was Charles who build the other 3 palaces on the periphery of the city center. Today, the palace and grounds house the Teatro San Carlo, the smaller Teatrino di Corte, the Biblioteca Nazionale Vittorio Emanuele III, a museum, and the regional tourist board.
I get why APH Romano is just referred to as Romano and why APH Veneziano is referred to as Italy. To put it simply, Romano first represented the Kingdom of Two Sicilies and Veneziano represented the Kingdom of Sardinia, later the Kingdom of Italy in 1860. By the end of 1860, Italian troops took over the Kingdom of Two Sicilies, took apart a lot of the factories, and relocated a lot of them to the north. This forced the south to economically survive on agriculture, and that didn’t entirely work because of active volcanoes. Because of all the crops dying, a lot of Southern Italians( mostly Sicilians ) came to America from 1860-1920. Anyway, the Kingdom of Two Sicilies dissolved into part of the Kingdom of Italy in 1860. So Veneziano was the original Kingdom of Italy and Romano was just added on. This is why most people call Veneziano Italy and Romano just Romano. I would also like to add that this would make the two half brothers. Romano was first just Sicily, I think, so in about 750 BC, Ancient Greece colonized Sicily, and so that makes Romano Greece’s older brother. If he did represent Sicily, he would also have Arabic and Spanish blood in him. Veneziano has Lombard and Germanic blood from the German conquests of Italy after the fall of the Roman Empire.
The main staircase of the Royal Palace of Naples, one of the four residences near Naples used by the Bourbon Kings during their rule of the Kingdom of the Two Sicilies (1730-1860). The others were the palaces of Caserta, Capodimonte overlooking Naples, and the third Portici, on the slopes of Vesuvius.
Luisa of Naples and Sicily (27 July 1773 – 19 September 1802), was a Neapolitan and Sicilian princess. She was born at the Royal Palace in Naples. Her father was the future King Ferdinand I of the Two Sicilies and her mother, born Maria Carolina of Austria, was a sister of Marie Antoinette. She was one of eighteen children, seven of whom survived into adulthood.
On 15 August 1790, she married her double first cousin, Archduke Ferdinand of Austria. The wedding ceremony took place in Florence, the capital of the Grand Duchy of Tuscany which her husband had ruled since the beginning of the year. Her husband ruled the Grand Duchy till 1801, when he was forced by Napoleon to make way for the Kingdom of Etruria.
Luisa died in childbirth the next year at the Hofburg Imperial Palace in Vienna; the princess is buried in the Imperial Crypt with her stillborn son in her arms.
#Neapolitan Mail’s stamp. (Bollo della Posta Napoletana, Grana 2).
Note the horse on the left, symbol of the Neapolitan provinces (all the continental part of what was then the Kingdom of the two Sicilies) and the triskele on the right, symbol of Sicily and the Sicilian provinces, the rest of the Kingdom. At the bottom of these two symbols, we see three fleurs-de-lis, heraldic symbol of the House of Bourbons.
From a styleforum.net post about how ethnicity dictates how, or how we don’t, dress:
Gladhands, I’m going to quote you here (in response to a post regarding how African American Zoot Suits, aka Steve Harvey Suits, are something many black Americans deem being well dressed, while other more conservative black Americans avoid them) because what you have to say rings true for me as well, except as an Italian-American instead of an African American.
The guido subculture has been something thats been shunned since its inception (the first generations of Italian-Americans who did their best to “Americanize” their immigrant parents customs) and its something I consciously try to avoid when I dress, whether its casual, street wear, or CBD (Conservative Business Dress)-or as CBD as I get. I like you, however, have realized that there is some important cultural significance to this “guido” culture, that as much as they try to disconnect from the old country, that ties directly into the lives their ancestors lived and the reasons those men and women LEFT Italy in their own diaspora. I’ve concluded that this subculture in fact should be embraced by Italian Americans because our culture is also disappearing, faster than you can say “manigut”. In fact, the topic, not necessarily from a sartorial perspective, will be a pet project of mine that a few SFers and the many Italian American friends I have will be helping me formulate through the sharing of their experiences.
Back to the sartorial, well sort of. My great grandparents came to NY over 120 years ago and when they did, they did everything they could to “become American”, even if it was at the expense of their own culture. This included dressing American, speaking American, and eating American. They became avid NY Giant fans (baseball) and spent much of their little leisure time at the Polo Grounds faking American accents in the cavernous grandstands. Another aspect of the “change-over” was the disassociation with the Roman Catholic/Latin Church. Although still believers on Sunday, much like the conversos and marranos of Spain during the Inquisition, they stayed far away from it during the week. This is evident today with the millions of “lapsed” Catholics that are out there.
The easiest way they could replace their own culture with an American one however, was to adopt a WASP wardrobe, or strive to dress like those blue blooded Americans who were now migrating outside of city centers and into the lush and green suburbs of Long Island, Westchester, New Jersey and Connecticut. The guidos who stayed, who could easily be identified through their accents and clothes, whether its The Situation on Jersey Shore today, or Tony Manero from Saturday Night Fever 35 years ago, were clearly Italian Americans, clearly urban and clearly Catholic (gold chains with crucifixes or even worse, a St. Anthony medal). Italians who came here wanted nothing to do with a religion that was viewed as archaic and un-American by those suburban blue bloods, and the easiest way to do that in everyday ife was through dress and speech. Even Italian names began to change once in America (my great grandfather went from DonDiego to Bell, and first names became Anglicized, Sebastiano became Steven, Vincenzo became Jimmy). It also probably didn’t help the situation that Church officials top to bottom across the South (formerly the Bourbon Kingdom of the Two Sicilies) were implicit in the brutal oppression that Garibaldi and his cronies laid on the people there in the 1860s. But thats for another blog post…
We as a Protestant-American society look upon people like Mike The Situation with disgust. Abercrombie & Fitch (Can you find any two names more Wonder Bread than those?) even began paying him NOT to wear their clothes, imagine if they made that same offer to an African American reality tv star today? They wouldn’t, because African Americans are not as big a threat to the Protestant American ethos as Roman Catholics. I, however, see someone like Mike and Snookie as holding onto more of their identity, albeit changed over the years, more than most of the Italian Americans who know little of where they come from and instead turn to their Northern oppressors as heros and icons of their culture, which in my mind is the biggest falsehood in Italian American identity. Most of us hail from the South, where we spoke a different language-I wont even call it a dialect. I argue it was as different as Spanish and Portuguese, and aside from linguistics, had a very different culture and way of life.
That different way of life was a polar opposite to the Protestant American Capitalist work ethic and caused the same type of problems within our subculture that we are now seeing in Greece, another Mediterranean culture with whom Southern Italians have much in common, on a global scale. While the rest of the civilized world looks at the protesting young Greeks as lazy, entitled, and slobbish, I choose a different lens to view them through. I’ll share with you this last story of my Neapolitan family: the Nunziatas came here in 1900, and during the 20’s, 30’s and 40’s they owned a scrap metal business. When the Second World War started they could have made millions, but instead chose to work and get just enough scrap so that they could shut down shop and spend the rest of the day at the beach, or lounging around with their family. At first glance, and most of my own family feels this way today, they would seem lazy and undesirable with a questionable work ethic. But if you look deeper, it was just their way of showing what held more value in their lives. Rather than working all day, and making a ton of money for future generations, they valued the time they had on this earth with their family then, in their present (they were very close), and to them, that was worth more than the dollar bills that could have lined their pockets and bought them expensive wardrobes.
Some will say, with their Protestant American Work Ethic branded on their consciousness and unconscious, that these folks were lazy, entitled bums, just like many are calling the young Greeks today. I argue, that this philosophy, which frustrates a great many Western Capitalist visitors when they go to places like Naples and the Greek Islands (shops closing for the entire month of August, 2 and a half hour lunch breaks, opening at 11, closing at 4), is neither lazy nor entitled, but simply has value placed on other things aside from money and work, a completely different, and perhaps Catholic value system. Its why the Nunziatas were usually in a pair of trousers and “wife beater” guido undershirts all the time. Because it was the time and people they got to enjoy life with, rather than the “stuff” that we’ve been brainwashed to “need” by our capitalist system that was most meaningful.
Most Italian American try to distance themselves from that culture today, and one way is through how they dress, by consciously avoiding the very style (life and sartorial) that was once the very foundation of who they were, or weren’t. I think the guidos maybe on to something. being a father of two, there’s nothing more in life that I enjoy more than spending each second that i do with my children. While I slave away at a job I don’t enjoy every day, I start to look at things through Snookie and Mike the Situation’s lenses, and I’m starting to think that they may be onto something that is plenty deeper than GT and L.
in Hetalia, Italy is represented by two characters.
ITALY VENEZIANO Though his name is derived after Venice, he only seems to represent the Republic itself in the strip where he fights the Ottoman troops. In the strips, he is simply referred to by the others as Italy, with his brother and his grandfather only referring to him as Veneziano. In Italian, the word Veneziano has the meaning of “venetian”, “native of Venice”, but, unlike his brother’s second forename, it is no existent male first name. Veneziano can also be seen as a sort of pun for the similar-sounding Japanese phrase “Venezia no”, which would mean “of Venice”.
ITALY ROMANO His full nation name, Italy Romano, is derived from Rome, the capital of Italy. In the actual strips, he is simply Romano. Historically, however, he would represent either kingdom of Sicily and Naples (which later became “The Kingdom Of The Two Sicilies”), which were part of Southern Italy and wound up under the control of Spain. Romano is an existent Italian male first name, derived from the Latin title “romanus” (which originally meant “a citizen of the Roman Empire”, but now simply “native of Rome”). In addition, Romano can be seen as a pun on the phrase “Roma no”, meaning “of Rome”.