The Family of Henry VII with St George and the Dragon
At left, Henry VII, with
Prince Arthur behind him, then Prince Henry (later Henry VIII), and
Prince Edmund, who did not survive early childhood. To the right is
Elizabeth of York, with Princess Margaret, then Princess Elizabeth who
didn’t survive childhood, Princess Mary, and Princess Katherine, who
died shortly after her birth.
Ever since Emma Dumont was announced back in August 2016 to play a character named Katherine Daly, the PLL fandom blew up with theories believing she was going to play a younger Mary and that the name “Katherine Daly” was a lie to cover it up. As we now know, her character IS called Katherine. It wouldn’t make sense anyway to make a fake name to hide the fact she’d play a “younger Mary”.
Everyone started to believe she could be playing a younger Mary when Emma Dumont posted this picture on Instagram with the caption, “Asylum chick vibes.”
First of all, she is wearing the RADLEY gown patients always wore, as well as slippers. Her hair is BLONDE and she resembles (well, to me) Bethany from 6x10 (”Game Over, Charles”).
When we first see Katherine in 7x11 (”Playtime”), she greets Hanna after Mona got in contact with her so she could see Hanna’s clothing designs (Katherine is a fashionista of some sort). Where do they first meet? THE RADLEY.
Bethany, obviously, was in Radley as we all know. Katherine Daly has a creepy vibe to me. She greets Hanna and mentions that she is the daughter of Senator Daly, and is running a fundraiser for her dad. I believe Katherine had a disturbing past and was, indeed, Bethany Young in Radley. Perhaps this was an alias so no one would discover she was the senator’s daughter, or maybe Bethany is her real name.
Katherine notes how she likes designs, and we all know how much Bethany loved to draw…
Most characters that are related with “A” (Bethany knew Charlotte/Charles) or are “A” are fashionistas. Mona and Charlotte were, and we first met Charlotte when she mentioned she was a stylist in a boutique. We knew from the very beginning Mona was into fashion after she stopped being “Loser Mona”.
I am assuming that Katherine is from New York because Hanna said she voted for her dad whilst in New York. Why would she come all the way to Rosewood just to look at some clothing designs? Perhaps she’s always been here and is working with A.D. Maybe Bethany/Katherine moved to New York after being in Radley.
As for the night Bethany died, I’ve always believed that no one actually died that night. We all know how Charlotte had access to medical cadavers, as mentioned by Marlene in an interview when she revealed a cadaver was in the barrel from S5. Maybe Charlotte put a cadaver in the grave and put Katherine’s/Bethany’s DNA on it so it’d be identified as her, along with a blonde wig and yellow blouse. Maybe there is a reason to why she did this. If not, maybe she really was hit by Mona and buried alive by Melissa, but she was pulled out. She wants revenge on them all for what happened as she’s mentally insane! Don’t forget, Bethany supposedly killed Toby’s mother Marion.
How could I forget Allison and Catherine from The Pierces and in the Secret music video (PLL’s theme song)? Even though Allison was the brunette and Catherine was the blonde (the lead singers from The Pierces), and they’re spelt differently from Alison and Katherine in the show, maybe they’re bringing this to PLL itself. Catherine killed Allison in the music video for exposing her secret! Could we see Alison vs Katherine in PLL?
There isn’t much else to go by, but I will definitely keep my eye on Katherine as her next appearance will be in 7x13 (”Hold Your Piece”).
You know the super ironic thing is that, aside from the crime-worthy issue of putting in Elizabeth’s love of Richard III -gag-, there was an interpretation of her in the tv show of the White Queen that I really loved. At one point, she said to her mother that her political machinations would “doom us all.” It reflects a viewpoint that she could have realistically had IRL, but we’d never know since there’s no firsthand sources reflecting that. We do have however, enough s*we do have, however, enough speculative evidence to say that it’s a ver possible viewpoint the real Elizabeth of York may have had: that all she wanted was peace, so she willingly went along with her husband feeling she should stay out of the political sphere - which was very, VERY unlike what her mother did as queen.
I’m not so sure if Elizabeth Woodville was as political as most think she was, she certainly had some political ambition but the more I research her the more she seems very standard. I’m not sure Elizabeth of York would have seen what her mother did in 1483 as born out of political ambition, at the end of the day Elizabeth Woodville was only trying to secure her son on the throne which given he was the Prince of Wales and was always considered in his father’s reign to be the legal heir wasn’t that ambitious to me. Elizabeth Woodville seems to have been a standard Queen of this era, and alot of slander has been thrown her way.
That being said I do think it’s fair to speculate that Elizabeth of York saw how both Elizabeth Woodville and Margaret of Anjou were treated and slandered by so many. So to speculate it could be that Elizabeth not being in the public political arena was a response to that seems a pretty fair thing to speclate on.
I mean we simply just can’t know why Elizabeth of York was out of the public political arena, it wasn’t recorded down. Could it have been forced on her by Henry VII? Certainly, but there is as much evidence that it was forced on her that there is she agreed and saw the advantage in it. I mean we do have some evidence that privately Elizabeth did have some ambition, I like how Thomas Penn puts it in The Winter King,
“Elizabeth was a discreet, persuasive lobbyist on her own account. London’s key politicians and merchants cultivated her assiduously; so too did foreign diplomats. They did so not because she was ‘powerless’, but quite the opposite. Beneath the emollience was a steeliness, glimpsed in the brisk letters she wrote intervening in legal affairs, and in petitioning her husband for favours on behalf of her servants. When Pope Alexander VI requested that his representative in England be given the vacant bishopric of Worcester, Henry wrote back apologetically, explaining that his queen had already bagged the post for her confessor. Elizabeth could, it seemed, put her foot down. During the preparations for Arthur and Catherine’s wedding, the Spanish ambassador de Puebla handed over letters in duplicate to the queen from Catherine of Aragon and from her parents. Henry wanted copies of each ‘to carry continually about him’. Elizabeth refused. One set, she said, was for Prince Arthur, and she ‘did not like to part with hers’; the resulting marital tiff was played out in front of Lady Margaret and the watching de Puebla”
I think Penn has the best take on it, Elizabeth was simply more behind the scenes then front in center. We can’t know why this was, whether it was Elizabeth’s choice or not. It seems that Henry relied on her privately not publicly. But this isn’t to say Elizabeth was without political ambition. We do know that Elizabeth worked very hard to obtain the marriage of Katherine of Aragon and Prince Arthur. To me, that shows some political ambition on Elizabeth’s part, as she must have been aware of importance of such a match. The marriage was a huge political statement for the Tudors (which is why Henry VII spent so much money on the actual wedding itself). The Trastámara, an important and rather old royal family in Europe, by sending their daughter to marry Prince Arthur were signaling to the rest of Europe that they consider the Tudors a legitimate dynasty. One worthy of marriage. Elizabeth working to obtain this match really shows she was working for the political benefit of the Tudors.
I think this is part of the reason I find The White Princess idea that Elizabeth was secretly plotting against Henry and the Tudor dynasty absurd. Elizabeth seems to have pretty much all in with secure the future of House Tudor. I mean the best chance Elizabeth had was on the success of Henry VII, if Henry was overthrown or killed she lost everything. Her position as Queen, her legitimacy, her ability to help her family, and her children’s inheritance. Elizabeth and Henry had a common goal, and that’s why the idea that Elizabeth being fighting inside to destroy Henry makes very little sense. What would make more sense would be for Elizabeth to attempt to gain Henry VII (Who was always an extremely cautious man) trust in order to put her family in a position to gain from it. That would make a lot more sense.