just picked this up after reading the series again!

intrepid-fool  asked:

I'm new to Terry Pratchett and want to get into Discworld. Is there any order to read them in? I picked one of the shelf randomly and I'm really interested in stories with Tiffany Aching.

So, as a disclaimer, before I scare you away: it is part of Discworld fandom tradition to present newcomers with the Reading Flowchart

It is also part of Discworld fandom tradition to help the Fandom Newbie find an order of reading tailored Specifically For You, because, Newcomer, we’re your own personal reading assistant. 

As you probably know, the Discworld books are separated into series based on which sets of characters appear in them - so you have the Witches, the City Guards, Death & Co., Rincewind and Tiffany Aching, along with a bunch of standalones. 

The books can be read in any order - either by publishing order or series order, or just randomly choosing one with your eyes closed and going from there. I personally had no order in which I read them. After two kind of lukewarm experiences (Moving Pictures and Reaper Man) I decided to try again and just picked up the one that was the thickest and went from there. It was Jingo and then I read Thief of Time and Night Watch, then Feet of Clay and then Guards! Guards! and then Men at Arms. NO CHRONOLOGICAL ORDER, WE GET CONFUSED LIKE MEN

If you like the Tiffany Aching books, you should definitely check out the rest of the Witches series (starting with Wyrd Sisters -> Witches Abroad -> Lords and Ladies -> Carpe Jugulum), because Granny and Nanny both make appearances in the TA books, and they help establish The Meaning of Witching. (The Tiffany Aching books technically take place after the last Witches book, Carpe Jugum, but I’ve always enjoyed Tiff on her own and reading the Witches books alongside that. )

From the witches, most people move onto Death & Co. or Rincewind. 

But. BUT

What next? What’s after that? The series sprawls 40-something books, that’s a lot of options, right?

The flowchart I linked to is kind of outdated though, and also doesn’t give you any idea about how jump from one series to another. 

So…I made a new one. 

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I know this looks overwhelming. Let me explain the legend of this thing. 

The dotted lines are non-essential connections, in that they’re short stories or tie-in books. I know I threw Colour of Magic and Light Fantastic under a bus there, but they are generally considered the weakest books - this was before any solid worldbuilding. 

The deep green arrows are pretty straightforward - sometimes one book links to another, even though they’re not in the same series. For example, Thief of Time has a Plot Event that kickstarts the story of Night Watch, even though they have two completely (almost) separate sets of characters. The Lords and the Ladies deal with elves, which we see more of in Wee Free Men.

The orange lines are Gateway books, meaning that from there you can easily jump from series to another because of connecting themes or characters. 

For example, if you start with Tiffany Aching and the Witches, you’ve been in the countryside of Lancre the whole time - until you get to Maskerade, which takes place in the city of Ankh-Morporkh. That’s a good way to get into the City Watch and Industrial Revolution-themed books, because it’s an introduction to big city life from the point view of one of its characters. So you can continue with the Witches series after Maskerade, or you can hop onto either the City Guards series or to The Truth and the Moist von Lipwig series. 

The red ones are thematically connected books. Small Gods deals with belief and religion on the Disc, and the creation of god, god-like and sacrilegious figures, which is a theme that crops up repeatedly - like in Hogfather, Wintersmith, I Shall Wear Midnight, Snuff, Going Postal. Pyramids deals with succession crisis, which becomes a recurring theme in Men at Arms, even though they’re set thousands of years apart. The same goes for Moving Pictures, The Truth and Going Postal - the first two are standalone books, but they deal with urban development of Ankh Morporkh, despite having different sets of characters. 

Again, I want to stress that you don’t have to follow this at all. You can easily pick up a random book from the Tiffany Aching series and go in whichever direction you want - this isn’t Star Wars, where you have to slog through 3 badly-directed movies to get the gist of the story. The books are brilliant in their own right - some of the earlier ones are hit-and-miss, but the later ones are generally considered to be quite enjoyable. 

It’s just that all books contain a call-back two to an earlier book - which can be easy to miss if you’re not reading in the right order. A lot also have interconnecting themes and cameos, which can be really delightful to find. 

So that is why we write several-paragraph-long essays.

And if you’re still here, and I haven’t scared you off yet….go forth and read. 

(Disclaimer: I have not read any of the Rincewind books, except for Interesting Times, which didn’t really impress me. I’m open to opinions on those books, however)

cassian/jyn fic recs by MUTUAL PINING TROPES

I told an anon that I wouldn’t be doing this, yet here we are. This fic rec list is dedicated to fandom’s dedication to mutual pining + tropes that shove Cassian and Jyn together. All are either post-Scarif AUs, or canon missing scenes.

In brief:

fake making-out
like real people do by mollivanders ( @ladytharen​​) 3.4K
It’s a Classic for a Reason by mosylu ( @mosylufanfic​​). 0.4K, oneshot
Faking It by mosylu ( @mosylufanfic​) 2.8k, oneshot

sharing a bed
The Second Mission: Cold and Codependent by angel_deux. 26K words, complete.
semantics (series) by katsumi ( @leralynne​​). 4 oneshots.
the quiet we hold by ithacas ( @dazy-laze​​). 12K, oneshot
Cold, Cold Nights by Felurian. 2.4K, oneshot
we were secrets to keep by mollivanders ( @ladytharen​​)
Finding Myself (And Maybe You) (series) by Copper_Nails (Her_Madjesty) ( @coppernailpolish​​). 5 oneshots.
Remastered by Lafayette1777 ( @lafayette1777​​) 9.7K, oneshot
5 times Cassian and Jyn shared a bed by Moonprincess92 ( @moonprincess92nz​​) 4K, oneshot
Crash into You by jeeno2 ( @jeeno2) 8K, complete
the benefits of conversation by ignitesthestars ( @ignitesthestars​​). 1k, oneshot
falling together by ninemoons42 ( @ninemoons42) 4.7K, oneshot
Before I Wake, Before the Dawn by redfantasyfox ( @redfantasyfox​) 6K, oneshot

fake relationship
compromise by ignitesthestars ( @ignitesthestars​​). 2.6K, WIP

hurt/comfort (i.e. taking care of one another)
cover me, I’ll cover you by mollivanders ( @ladytharen​) 3.4k, oneshot
Hoarse by Selkit ( @coppermarigolds​). 2k, oneshot
Bloody Little Worms by Kobo ( @rxbxlcaptain​). 2.7K, oneshot
Closer by muggleindenial28 ( @jyn-mother-fucking-andor​). 3.3K, oneshot
what is decayed in you shall be made clean by imgoingtocrash ( @imgoingtocrash​) 2.3k, oneshot.
Two Hours by vaultfox ( @vaultfox​) 4.4K, oneshot
flight lessons by ignitesthestars ( @ignitesthestars​) 1K, oneshot
There For You by guineapiggie ( @ruby-red-inky-blue). 1.9K, oneshot

back from the dead
We Can Turn Over and Start Again by kyrdwyn. 13K, WIP
you are your father’s daughter by gingergenower ( @gingergenower​​). 1K, oneshot
Fifteen Days by clashofqueens. 1.1K, oneshot
untitled by @hurricanedancer​​. oneshot.

caught in the act
Caught in the Act by jeeno2 ( @jeeno2). 700 words, oneshot
A Million More Deaths by starforged ( @starforged​​) 3.2K, oneshot
‘cause i’ve been banging on the walls, i’m too dry to cry by youareiron_andyouarestrong ( @youareiron-andyouarestrong​). 500 words, oneshot

sex pollen
Dust by impertinence ( @stopthatimp​). 1.6K, oneshot
Color My Cheeks by Copper_Nails (Her_Madjesty) ( @coppernailpolish) 29K, complete

mutual pining co-dependence (that doesn’t fit anywhere else)
run to me in the rising dawn by katsumi ( @leralynne​) 4.9k, oneshot
Alternatively, by ibohemianam. 10K, WIP
We’ve Been Here Before by angel_deux. 2.5k, complete
my knees are cold (running home) by filzsimmons ( @jynersq). 7.3K, oneshot
Take Shelter by nymja ( @gizkasparadise​) 20K, complete

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patience like this

“I care about you. More than I want to. And that scares me. It scares me so much that I sometimes wish we’d never met. I hate that you make me feel this way.You kind of drive me nuts. But somehow I still want you. You mess me up so bad and I still want you.”

Illuminate x Her series, Pt. I, Pt. II
Pairing: Shawn Mendes x Her
Rating: Explicit
Words: 5285

Clubs have never really been his scene. He quickly gets uncomfortable when the sweaty bodies of strangers bump into him, and with the occasional bold girl getting straight to the point by wrapping her arms around his neck and grinding up against him. So he stays off the dancefloor and chats with the bartender when she has time to talk, sips from his drink, eats his peanuts and watches his friends dance to the fast paced, pulsating music that blares from the speakers.

Shawn’s not surprised when a female body pushes up against the bar next to him and starts a hollow conversation about his drink, then claims that she doesn’t know him but says that he looks familiar. At this point, he’s used to women hitting on him once they recognise him; it’s a common pattern. He’s noticed them watch him with their girlfriends before plucking up the courage and making an excuse to approach him.  So, he’s developed a secure routine.

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Unpopular Opinion

I might be the only one in the whole fandom who doesn’t ship Nico and Will…

Wait, let me explain and then you’ll be free to throw tomatoes at me. 

I was reading Trials of Apollo and I think they’re cute together, but I can’t ship them. I just can’t. Their relationship has always felt kinda rushed to me, you know? It might be because I read the books as soon as they came out and then never picked them up again (I’m talking about the second series), but I can’t remember the two of them ever interacting before BoO, or if they did… It didn’t struck me as important at the moment. And then what? In BoO they just… get together? I mean I get that Riordan was trying to give Nico his happy ending since he wasn’t planning on writing anything more about this world… but, after Percabeth, whose kiss we’ve waited five books for, I’d have expected a bit more.
They have no history, nothing that makes my heart flutter at the memory. One moment they know each other because they have talked once or twice, Nico has this love-at-the-first-sight moment, and then there’s this big time jump and they’re… together? What happened in the meantime?? Rick, couldn’t you at least wait and write their development in the new books? I’d have loved them, that way. I swear!

Be aware that I’m not Insulting Solangelo, I respect it and anyone who ships it (cause even I can’t deny that they’re cute. And if Nico’s happy then I’m happy too), it’s just my personal opinion.

mountainchiliart  asked:

Hey i loved your Wicdiv reread twitter. Will you be updating it in the future by any chance? Would love to read what you thought of the series up since you left it off.

man, maybe eventually! i think the reread worked as a thing that went over the entire series up to that point, and if i did another reread i would want to start from the top again, rather than just pick up at #23. 

maybe after this next arc is done (or after the special afterward). then we’d have a whole year of the book done since then, so we’d have a lot more to work with. 

Non-Spoilery Section: When I first heard about this book, I had just started reading the ‘Throne of Glass’ series in 2014. Though this book sparked my interest, I never did pick it up until last month during the Sarah J Maas signing I attended.  Even after I picked it up, I didn’t start reading it until last week. And let me tell you, I completely regret not reading this amazing book sooner. Sarah J Maas has done it again. She has created a fantasy series with a strong female lead, a beautiful and intricate world, and gorgeous male characters you can’t help falling in love with.

So this book is actually a ‘Beauty and the Beast’ retelling but in my opinion, ACOTAR is better off described as ‘based off’ Beauty and the Beast rather than ‘retold’ because while this book takes certain concepts from the story of Beauty and the Beast, it’s too unique and ‘it’s own’ to actually be considered a retelling.
This story is in first-person point of view and a huntress named Feyre is the narrator. One day, while hunting for food for her starving family, she comes across a wolf and shoots him. What she doesn’t know is that the wolf she killed was actually a faerie. In Feyre’s world, a treaty exists between humans and faeries and because of that treaty, Feyre is forced to leave her home and her family to live in the fae lands of Prythian for the rest of her life.

If you were to ask me which series I like better, Throne of Glass or this one, I’d say Throne of Glass. This series is great and everything, but to me the Throne of Glass world seems more colorful and enticing than this one.
I do however give this book a five out five stars and then some. If you tell me you’re in the mood for an epic fantasy read with magic, gorgeous faeries, a bitchy villain, and hot sex, I would thrust this book into your hands and whisper ‘Rhyasnd’ in your ear before disappearing into the shadows.

Spoilery Section:  One of the things I loved the most about this book was seeing the world through Feyre’s artist eyes. Sarah J Maas is able to describe things so beautifully. Personally, a beautiful and detailed description in a book does a lot for me.

So let’s talk about Feyre for a minute. She’s cold and prickly, stubborn and prideful, frustrating and kinda stupid at times. I understand her coldness, I do. Her world was literal hell, how else would she be able to cool herself down in a hellish world unless she built an ice wall around herself? But her stubbornness and her stupidity really got under my nerves at times. I mean c’mon Feyre! Wasn’t she at least a little bit suspicious when she saw her lame father in Prythian? Well, at least she knows that she should shut the hell up, even if she doesn’t. Also, why did she have to be so damn stubborn when Tamlin offered to teach her to read? C’MON FEYRE LEARNING TO READ WILL BE A VALUABLE THING. IF RHYSAND HADN’T HELPED YOU DURING THE SECOND TRIAL YOU’D BE SPLATTERED AGAINST AMARANTHA’S WALL. STUPID FEYRE. I also damn near through this book at wall in frustration when Feyre didn’t say ‘I love you’ to Tamlin sooner. But then again, no drama, no story.

So concerning Tamlin…. What can I say? He’s a sexy flower puppy who rules over flower land. He’s clueless about flirting and is overall just this cute, loving, sexy fae High Lord who Feyre and Amarantha want to bang. During the story, it’s evident that there is something wrong with Tamlin’s magic, he tells Feyre that the magic is malfunctioning or something but the truth is, he’s been cursed by Amarantha. All the High Lords have been stripped of most of their powers and put under her control. I mean, Amarantha sucks but Tamlin really shouldn’t have said what he did about Amarantha’s sister. That was below the belt, mate. Who else pictures him with like, Wolverine claws though?
Out of all the characters in ACOTAR, Lucien is probably my favorite. Lucien is like the Kenji Kishimoto, Leo Valdez, Uriah Pedrad, Finnick Odair, etc. of this story. In short, he is the unappreciated sidekick character everybody loves. He exists to provide comic relief, great advice, and hella comebacks. The conversations between Lucien and Feyre fill me with joy. I just wish Feyre was as good as Celeana when it comes to comebacks, it would do wonders for this book.

I tend to do that quite a lot actually. I tend to wonder what it would be like if Celaena was in Feyre’s place. I’d like to think Celaena would’ve been able to sneak Under the Mountain without getting caught. She also would’ve murdered Amarantha without waiting for riddles or tasks. And speaking of which, CELEANA WOULD’VE SOLVED THAT GODAMN RIDDLE IN 0.5 SECONDS FLAT. I skipped a little bit forward so I knew that the answer to the riddle was love, but dammit Feyre, the riddle isn’t that hard.
Another thing I tend to do while reading this book is forget that the faeries of the Spring Court wear masks. But that’s not important.
Okay so can we talk about how spring comes through the power of hot sex? And also can we talk about how stupid it was for Tamlin and Lucien to not tall Feyre about what exactly happens during Fire Night? I mean, A NATRUALLY STUBBORN HUMAN IS LIVING WITH YOU AND YOU DON’T TELL HER ABOUT FIRE NIGHT?  YOUDON’T TELL HER THAT IF SHE STEPPED FOOT OUTDOORS SHE COULD POSSIBLY GET RAPED? DAMMIT LUCIEN. DAMMIT TAMLIN.

So yeah, stubborn Feyre goes out during Fire Night or as I like to call it, ‘Weird faerie orgy ritual thing’ and she nearly gets raped until our prince Charming swoops in to save the day. Before reading ACOTAR, I already knew about the much-loved character of Rhysand. And of course Rhys is the beautiful bad boy who doesn’t wanna accept his feelings and issues. Why is it that these asshole, trashbag characters are the ones to always capture our hearts? WHY? So Rhys is the High Lord of the Night Court, and I love him. To be honest, I didn’t understand why people liked him. He was an asshole! I was so pissed at him for drugging Feyre and making her give him lap dances and whatnot. Even if he thought he was helping, he still pissed me off.

But then I found myself wondering about Rhys, after all, he’s an interesting character. And then when that scene came when Amarantha was murdering Feyre and Rhys just cried out for her as if he cared, my heart cracked. And Rhysand, that son of a bitch, waltzed into that crack in my heart and dominated my life. Now I am obsessed with him. And it’s all his fault.

Sarah J Maas is driving me mad with Rhys’ mystery. WHY DID HE LOOK SO SHOCKED WHEN HE BEHELD NEWLY-FAE FEYRE’S FACE? The first thing that came into my head is, ‘they’re mates, aren’t they?’ but then again ,Sarah could just be playing games with us. Maybe she wants us to think Rhys and Feyre are mates to confuse us. Maybe Nesta is Rhys’ mate. Maybe that’s what Rhys saw in Feyre’s face. Nesta. They have the same eyes right? Nesta and Feyre? I know it’s a little unlikely but I’m desperate for answers.
Speaking of Nesta though, there is definitely something up with her. She has the power to resist the glamour of a High Lord…. I wouldn’t be surprised if she turns out be something special.

I hope Feyre, Elaine, and Nesta all get fae husbands. That would be so cool. I REALLY SHIP LUCIEN AND ELAIN OKAY. IDK WHY I JUST DO. PLEASE TELL ME I’M NOT ALONE.
Speaking of ships, you may be wondering, who do I ship Feyre with? Well the answer to that is, I DON”T KNOW. On one hand, the fact that Feyre went Under the Mountain for Tam and endured all that torture for him should be a deal sealer. They’re in love and that’s that. But on the other hand, it’s obvious that there is definitely some kind of bond or connection between Feyre and Rhys. If they’re mates thenthat should be a deal sealer too. SO I JUST DON’T KNOW OKAY.

Okay lastly, I need to discuss my expectations, and wants for the next book, A Court of Mist and Fury. IT’S OUT NEXT MONTH GUYS.
1. I need to see Rhys teach Feyre to read. He said that he would.
2. I need to see Nesta walk into Prythian and just be a total QUEEN. She’d slay everyone, I know she would.
3. I need Elain to secretly be good at kicking ass.
4. I wanna a sexy scene with Rhys. Sarah promised 400% more sexy in ACOMAF, and I demand to have one with Rhys
5. There is also something fishy going on with Feyre’s mom. Probably
7.  I wanna explore the rest of the fae lands

Yeah so that’s it for this review: I think? If you think I missed something, tell me.
PS: Who else noticed that after Rhys and Feyre kissed, she started calling him ‘Rhys’ instead of ‘Rhysand’? Because I did.

“Only my prisoners and my enemies call me that – Rhysand, page 234

I’m probably overthinking but yeah. She did call him Rhysand again anyway after awhile…. BUT STILL.
PPS: I really need ACOMAF before the overthinking and the wondering drives me mad.

One Night in Bristol

This Sherlolly fic is for marvelsdemigodsofmerwholock, who is celebrating her 17th birthday today. I hope this is fluffy enough for you. Happy birthday!

Summary: Sherlock falls asleep while working a case in Bristol. He begins talking in his sleep and reveals something to the only other occupant in the room: John Watson.

Characters: Sherlock Holmes, Molly Hooper, John Watson, Mary Morstan, Greg Lestrade, Phillip Anderson

Rating: T, due to a few swear words

Genre: Romance/Humour

A/N: In this fic, Sherlock is in his mind palace, but he falls asleep because he’s been working cases without a break, food, or sleep.

Disclaimer: As per usual, I own nothing. Everything belongs to Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, BBC, Steven Moffat, and Mark Gatiss. If I owned Sherlock and Molly Hooper, then there would be a lot more Sherlolly in the show. All mistakes are mine. I welcome reviews and constructive criticism.


John opened his eyes to the dim motel room ceiling. Sighing, he glanced at the digital clock on the nightstand. Three in the bloody morning. He lifted his head from the pillow and stared at the detective, who still wore his white dress shirt, black trousers, and black socks even as he slept on the other bed. He looked around the room and saw Sherlock’s suit jacket draped over the back of the desk chair. Sheets of paper (the case files, most likely), open books, and a map covered every inch of the large mahogany desk’s surface at the corner of the room. A piece of paper lay on top of the floor lamp, the cover of which was tilted to one side. Someone’s stuck, he deduced.

He rose from the bed and removed a small bottle of water from the mini fridge. He poured it into a clean glass and downed the cold water. After putting the bottle back in the fridge, he picked up his mobile from the nightstand and went through his messages. He smiled as he typed his reply to Mary’s most recent text.

Just read your message. Hope the baby is fast asleep and not keeping you up. - JW

He waited a few minutes before replacing the phone on the table. Looks like Hannah finally slept through the night.

He was about to lie down again when he heard a sound coming from the other bed. “Sherlock, are you awake?” The only answer he got was a series of unintelligible words from the detective, who suddenly turned onto his back. “What was that?” he asked as he approached the sleeping man.

“Bmmpyomolly,” Sherlock answered.

“Did you just say ‘Molly’?” he asked as he grabbed his mobile and launched the camera. He set the camera to record video and recalled a recent conversation with his wife. Maybe he’s dreaming about Molly. Maybe he’s finally telling her how he feels about her. If I’m right, then I need to document this, he reasoned. I’ll only show this to Mary and Lestrade anyway. Or Sherlock, if I have to. “Sorry, what was that again?” he prompted as he pressed the shutter button.

He mumbled again, a bit more loudly this time. “Because I love you, Molly,” he whined.

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"Veronica Mars" Star Jason Dohring Takes A Return Trip To Neptune

Veronica Mars star Jason Dohring opens up about the show’s humble beginnings, the twist of fate that won Logan a place in Veronica’s heart, and what fans can expect from the upcoming feature film.

I didn’t wear my Veronica Mars T-shirt to interview Jason Dohring, but the thought did briefly cross my mind. After all, I was one of the few (well, 2.5 million) viewers who obsessively watched the teen sleuth drama from 2004 to 2007, first on UPN and then The CW.

I integrated Veronica’s vernacular into my vocabulary, purchased Marsmemorabilia, asked my parents to buy me a T-Mobile Sidekick (Veronica’s cellular weapon of choice), and when series creator Rob Thomas asked for my money in 2013 to help fund a feature film, I happily donated.

And I was not alone.

By now, the story of how Veronica Mars became 2013’s most talked-about social media event is the stuff of legend. Heck, my father even asked if I donated to “that Pluto movie” (he’s trying, guys) when I was home for Thanksgiving. But for those of you who just emerged from underneath a rock, here’s the quick version:

On March 12, 2013, Rob Thomas launched a Kickstarter campaign to turn his beloved neo-noir series about a teenage private eye into a movie. He gave himself two days to raise $2 million. That goal was met in 10 hours. But the Kickstarter clock kept counting and the donations continued to pour in, eventually topping out at $5,702,153 (a new Kickstarter record). So, the film was funded, the movie was made, the T-shirts were silkscreened, and that brings us to the present day, when I’m sitting cross-legged on the floor of a Los Angeles office with Jason Dohring — who played Logan Echolls, the show’s bad boy with a heart of 24-karat gold — talking about the March 14 release of Veronica Mars’ feature film.

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“This was the dream role,” says Dohring of Logan. Clad in black high-tops, dark denim, and a simple gray T-shirt that barely contains the biceps that were so often throwing haymakers on the show, the 31-year-old still enthuses about his most iconic role like it was day one of filming. “And the fact I got to play him for three years — and now plus the movie — is amazing.”

Since Mars ended in 2007, Dohring played a 400-year-old vampire on CBS’ short-lived drama Moonlight and guest-starred on a smattering of procedurals. And while he never felt typecast as Logan, Dohring recalls, with a laugh, “I’ve walked into so many auditions and the casting director couldn’t look me in the eye because of Logan. But that’s all good.”

Looking back, there was a decent chance that none of this would have happened, particularly Dohring’s casting as Logan, initially the type of character that television viewers love to hate, until they — like Kristen Bell’s Veronica — actually started falling for the darkly rebellious Hollywood heir. Back in 2003, Dohring actually auditioned for the role of Duncan Kane, Veronica’s sweetly guileless all-American ex-boyfriend. (The part ended up going to Teddy Dunn, and the character was written off the show midway through Season 2.)

“I stupidly went in and played their leading man as this dark, brooding, James Dean kind of guy,” Dohring recalls, with a wry laugh. “The [casting agents] were like, ‘Uh, that’s a little dark,’ and suggested I read for the character who was bashing out headlights in the pilot.”

One quick parking-lot prep session later and Mars had locked in its Logan. That’s when the fear set in.

“I always seem to get the roles that scare the shit out of me,” he says, laughing. “But ultimately, when you have to be absolutely free and totally let go, it’s so much more fun. That’s truly the thrill of acting.”

Dohring would soon to come discover another thrill of acting, one that’s unique to working in episodic television: the evolution of a character. Initially, Logan Echolls was tasked with kicking ass and taking names…when he was sober enough to remember them. But his palpable chemistry with Bell was obvious to everyone, particularly the show’s creator, and Thomas decided to place these two adversaries on the road to love.

“Around Episode 6, Rob pulled Kristen and [me] off to the side and said, ‘OK, so, you’re going to end up together,’” says Dohring. “It was like, ‘Are you fucking kidding me?!? No way!’” But he stresses that pairing off Veronica and Logan — or “LOVE” as their fans have adoringly come to call them — was just one more example of the creator’s brilliance manifesting itself in an unexpected storyline. “I always love Rob’s ideas. He has this very quiet way of speaking, but when he talks to you, you can’t help but get excited by what he’s saying.”

Still, turning the bad boy into a leading man posed several problems for Dohring, one of which brought him back to that ill-fated Duncan audition. “I didn’t know how to play ‘the leading man,’” he admits. And after countless hours of developing Logan’s dark side — both on-screen and off, where Dohring says he would retreat to the cul-de-sac by his house to scream and throw rocks in order to “really get what it’s like to be hateful” — he was also worried the audience wouldn’t buy it. “How could anybody like that character? He’s was so bad.”

But then Thomas dropped a bombshell on the viewers. “When they added in the backstory with his dad,” says Dohring, “that’s when I noticed a change in people’s reactions to me.”

“We did this mall tour when the show started and everybody would kinda rush by me to get to the next guy. They were all like, ‘Fuck you, you’re the dirty guy.’” But after revealing the emotional and physical abuse Logan suffered at the hands of his father (Harry Hamlin), Dohring remembers sensing a noticeable shift in the fans. “It became him against the world. He could do all this horrible shit and people would still love him.”

No one more so than Veronica herself.

Their volatile relationship has as many supporters as it does detractors within the fandom; half adoring their star-crossed love story and half feeling like Veronica would never truly consider Logan her soulmate.

Dohring falls firmly into the first camp — although he can’t quite pinpoint exactly why Logan and Veronica’s dynamic worked. “I really don’t know why it worked,” he says, stroking his temple. “The dialogue was some of the best on TV at the time, but as far as I am concerned, it all boiled down to each believing they were better and smarter than the other. We had that back-and-forth that people really responded to.”

For all three seasons, Veronica Mars filmed in San Diego, far from the lights of Hollywood, and, perhaps more significantly, the actors’ friends and families. “We were by ourselves in these tiny apartments just trying to make the best show we could, and…that made us a family.” That cast closeness manifested in a deeply meaningful way when it came to bringing Veronica and Logan’s relationship to life.

“A lot of that emotion was very real for me. I think I was in love with [Kristen] for the three years we made that show,” he says. “Like, I truly felt like I would die without her, and I think that’s what underlined everything people loved about them as a couple.”

Which is why many fans were taken aback by the revelation that the film — which picks up 10 years after the series finale — would revolve around the characters’ first meeting in a decade. “When Rob explained the movie to me, I thought it made sense they would have gone their separate ways,” says Dohring. “When I read [Rob’s] writing, it made sense. He just knows the voice. I kept thinking, Yep, that’s what Logan would say. Yep, that’s what Logan would do. Yep that’s how I would feel about Veronica. Reading [the script] and seeing those names on the page again really got to me.”

Veronica Mars: The Movie reunites the former flames when Logan is accused of murdering his pop star girlfriend and calls Veronica to help clear his name. And while the film is designed to appeal to both diehards and new audience members, Thomas very intentionally included characters, catchphrases, and scenes that would resonate much more deeply with the impassioned fans.

“There were these two scenes in particular where Rob kept saying, ‘This is what the fans paid for, man, this is what the fans paid for.’” True to Logan’s propensity for keeping secrets, Dohring kept these specific scenes firmly under wraps.

The fact so many had donated their hard-earned cash to make the film possible stayed front-and-center in everyone’s minds throughout the production — quite literally at times, considering one of the Kickstarter rewards offered backers the chance to be an extra in the Neptune High class reunion scenes.

“We really tried to make the experience special for them because they came for these 16-hour days, some standing in the back, wearing high heels, but all of them kept saying, ‘This is the best day of my life!’ One guy bought it as an engagement present for his wife. It’s truly unbelievable, man.”

For Dohring, the sacrifices made by these fans reinforces his belief that they truly had, and were once again, making something special. “You always want your creations to mean something; no one wants to just sleepwalk through a role,” he says. “People are deeply connected to this show and it’s all the more touching because that’s exactly what we intended.”

By all accounts, viewers will find the finished product wholly worth the wait. Therecently released trailer was met with universal praise, and Dohring feels they have, as Thomas intended, truly made a movie for the fans.

“I think they’ll be very pleased, but also at the same time, Rob doesn’t tie the story up with a bow. Nothing comes easy in Veronica’s world, so there’s a very melancholy/noir touch at the end that adds these cool layers.”

The question on the minds of all Marshmallows (as Bell lovingly calls the show’s fans) revolves around whether or not the Veronica Mars movie serves as a swan song or the start of a brand-new journey.

“Rob has mentioned [more movies] as a possibility,” Dohring says. “But it all depends on how the film does. The cool thing about Rob is that he writes interesting stuff, so it’s not like, ‘Oh, Logan got this girl pregnant. Oh, Logan’s in rehab.’ Despite everything that happened with this show, it was always so real. So I trust Rob would only tell the stories he wanted to tell.”

Veronica Mars opens in theaters on March 14, 2014.

Jarett Wieselman