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asoiaf meme (minor characters): 6/8 relationships ~ joanna and tywin lannister

Ser Tywin was but twenty, the youngest man ever to serve as Hand, but the manner in which he had dealt with the rising of the Reynes and Tarbecks had made him well respected, even feared, throughout the Seven Kingdoms. His cousin Lady Joanna, the daughter of Lord Tytos’s late brother Ser Jason, was already in King’s Landing; she had been serving as a ladyin-waiting and companion to Rhaella since 259 AC. She and Ser Tywin were married a year after he became Hand of the King in a lavish ceremony at the Great Sept of Baelor, with King Aerys himself presiding over the wedding feast and bedding. // blanca suárez as joanna lannister, lex shrapnel as tywin lannister

“Pregnancy Cravings” by @tosquinha, inspired by this beautiful gifset by @sansaregina

“Tywin dreamed that his son would be a great knight, that his daughter would be a queen. He dreamed they would be so strong and brave and beautiful that no one would ever laugh at them.”

My idea behind this piece was to depict Joanna, pregnant with the twins, enjoying a quiet morning with Tywin at Casterly Rock, debating about whether the baby will be a boy or a girl, and sharing their hopes and ambitions for their first child. @tosquinha did such a beautiful job, thank you again! 💕

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Sanrion children AU

Jon Lannister - Sansa and Tyrion’s firstborn, named after King Jon of Houses Targaryen and Stark. Jon Lannister is a brave young man with his father’s sense of humor (and curly golden hair lol). He’s a skilled warrior like his uncle Jamie was. Sansa raised him to be everything she ever wanted in a man once. And he is everything Tyrion dreamed to be when he was a child. Jon is called a Golden Heir of House Lannister. People from the Westerlands are very proud of him. He is popular in the Riverlands also.

Catelyn and Joanna Lannister - the red-haired twins. While Catelyn is this perfect young lady like her mother is and her grandmother was, Joanna is “little Arya”. The girls are good to each other and they don’t fight that often (though Joanna fights a lot with their little brother Rickon). Cat has a little crush on Targaryen prince (but don’t say anyone).

Rickon Lannister - Youngest child. Rickon is bookish, shy and reserved young man (when he’s not arguing with Joanna). He is very intelligent and has a great political mind. He doesn’t understand, but women find him very attractive. Sounds familiar?

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positive lady characters meme: asoiaf + mothers and daughters (requested by @joannalannister)

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asoiaf fancast:

women of robert’s rebellion

“Woman? Is that meant to insult me?”

3guysonecar-blog  asked:

Hey, so maybe this is old news, but I've been doing a reread and it seems that if magic has a price (usually of death) then are Dany, Jon, and Tyrion enchanted from birth, given that their respective moms all died in childbirth. Was the sacrifice of those three moms a necessary component for the emergence of the dragon's three heads?

I don’t know if they received a direct blood-magic enchantment, but yeah, sadly, I do get the feeling that the deaths of Joanna, Lyanna, and Rhaella in childbirth are being framed as a necessary sacrifice by the text. I say “sadly” because conceiving of the hero’s mother as a necessary sacrifice is a dumb, tired trope that directly contradicts what GRRM was setting out to accomplish (and IMO he succeeded) with Catelyn’s POV. Who knows, maybe there will be some kind of deconstructive twist on it that reframes things. Anything’s still possible. But as it stands, this may be my single least favorite aspect of the series; why make saving the world specifically dependent on the sacrifice of women? Why make it gendered in such a fashion that reifies the erasure of women in the society and genre he’s critiquing?

the signs as badass pre-got ladies
  • aries: rhaenyra targaryen
  • taurus: argella durrandon
  • gemini: joanna lannister
  • cancer: ashara dayne
  • leo: visenya targaryen
  • virgo: nymeria
  • libra: elia martell
  • scorpio: shiera seastar
  • sagittarius: lyanna stark
  • capricorn: daena the defiant
  • aquarius: rhaenys targaryen
  • pisces: rhaella targaryen

Omg how many damn times are people going to point out that Jon and Sansa are cousins, and Dany and Jon are aunt and nephew!! Everybody in the fandom knows that shit!!

The “but they are cousins” and “she’s his aunt/he’s her nephew” are getting fucking annoying seriously. everybody fucking knows that! STOP pointing out the obvious shit smh. We know wtf we are doing seriously. You ship your ship your way and I ship my ship mine. Just ship whoever the fuck you want, man.

Marriage between first cousins is not uncommon among the nobility of Westeros, and is not considered incest in their culture!

• Tywin Lannister married his cousin Joanna Lannister
• Jonnel Stark married his niece Sansa Stark
• Rickard Stark married his cousin Lyarra Stark
• Daemon Targaryen married his niece Rhaenyra Targaryen
• The Valyrians (and later, the Targaryens) preferred to marry cousins of as close a degree as possible if there were no sisters in the current generation of their families.
• and many more

and FYI (in case you don’t remember too) THIS IS FUCKING FICTIONAL

Women in Ice Cells: The Lioness

In the last installment of Women in Ice Cells, we talked about Elia Martell. Today, we’re going to be skipping to the other side of the mountains to Joanna Lannister: wife of Tywin Lannister, mother to Cersei, Jaime and Tyrion, Lady of Casterly Rock. Like many of the Dead Ladies Club, Joanna died in childbirth, while giving birth to Tyrion. There’s something to be said about the fact that so many of these women die in childbirth–an implicitly gendered death–but that is a discussion that deserves its own essay. For now, I’m going to be exploring Joanna as a person, and what we can glean about her character from the scant information GRRM gives us.

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anonymous asked:

Say Joanna lives and Tywin dies instead, how does that change things? Would Joanna as regent for the twins go with the double betrothal? Would the twins grow up healthy and happy? Tyrion? Elia?

Note that all of our knowledge about the double betrothal comes from Oberyn who certainly was not privy to whatever correspondence actually happened between Joanna and the Princess of Dorne. The Princess told Oberyn some parts and he filled in the blanks of the story with his observations and deductions, making him not the most accurate source of info. Here’s what Oberyn said about the double betrothal:

“Such a clever dwarf. Elia and I were older, to be sure. Your brother and sister could not have been more than eight or nine. Still, a difference of five or six years is little enough. And there was an empty cabin on our ship, a very nice cabin, such as might be kept for a person of high birth. As if it were intended that we take someone back to Sunspear. A young page, perhaps. Or a companion for Elia. Your lady mother meant to betroth Jaime to my sister, or Cersei to me. Perhaps both.”

Perhaps both. The wording makes it clear that this part is Oberyn’s conclusion and not something his mother explicitly told him. The fact that he was speaking of Joanna’s intentions is an enough tell of how accurate this information is, because Oberyn is not an authority on Joanna Lannister, neither was he privy to what she might or might not wanted.

Personally, I think Oberyn is wrong and that a double betrothal was never in the works. The idea of a double betrothal makes absolutely no sense from a dynastic standpoint, and I refuse to believe that the Joanna simply did not care about dynastic advantages. The political atmosphere of Westeros had been turbulent for years at the time and we’ve seen how the reign of Aegon V and the War of the Ninepenny Kings heavily influenced the political landscape and bred awareness of the power the lords of the realm have and how it could be consolidated into a power bloc against the crown. Joanna was not a political novice; she spent some years at court as lady-in-waiting to then-Princess, later Queen Rhaella and was the trusted confidante of the Hand of the King. She was well aware of the shifting landscape and conscious of the need for alliances, especially as Tywin’s relationship with Aerys was becoming increasingly frazzled. Joanna also lived through the misrule of Lord Tytos and knew how attentive Tywin was to asserting and consolidating the power of House Lannister. In that context, it’s hard to see Joanna planning for a double betrothal to the Martell siblings considering it unnecessarily wastes the potential of a marriage alliance with another powerful family. Besides, Joanna knew Tywin and so she certainly knew how difficult it would be to convince him of one betrothal to the Martells considering Dorne’s significant economic and military disadvantage compared to other more politically powerful families. To think she thought that she could convince him of two does not ring true to me at all. No, I sincerely doubt that a double betrothal was ever in the works, regardless of what Oberyn might think.

But that raises the question of which betrothal Joanna had in mind, which is relevant to the answer of your question. While the order in which Oberyn told Tyrion the betrothals were proposed in OTL (Cersei\Oberyn then Elia\Jaime) could indicate her preference, we simply have no way of knowing if this was the actual order the Princess proposed them in. Indeed Oberyns flipped the order around over the course of the conversation with Tyrion as seen in the above quote. It could be argued that that was the correct order of the suggested betrothals because the rejection of Elia as a bride for Jaime came with the “insult” of offering Tyrion instead, which certainly would make the Princess of Dorne far less prone to suggest another match to the man who just insulted her, whereas the refusal of Oberyn as a husband to Cersei did not come with an insult, despite how brusque Tywin was. But even if that was the correct order, was that the Princess’ own initiative? Or did she and Joanna previously agree on Cersei\Oberyn as the preferable or the more-likely-for-Joanna-to-convince-Tywin-of option? We just don’t know. We have no idea what the extent of Joanna’s involvement in how things played out was or even if she and the Princess agreed on a match rather it being a general idea of betrothing a Lannister to a Martell. Whatever theory anyone has is only conjecture based on minimal information but I fell down the rabbit hole thinking about this so why not make you suffer through it? Under a cut because no one has ever accused me of being brief.

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Tywin Lannister ruled the Seven Kingdoms, but was ruled at home by his lady wife”  If Joanna had lived… Tywin and her deserved better


Annabelle Wallis as young!Joanna

Joely Richardson as older!Joanna

Toby Regbo as young!Tywin

and this is for Lauren

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⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀as selfless as Aegon,
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀as wise as mad Aerys. ’
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