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Ajunta Pall was a male Human Jedi Master and the leader of the Dark Jedi that were exiled from the Jedi Order and the Galactic Republic following the Hundred-Year Darkness. Upon his arrival on Korriban, he became the first Dark Lord of the Sith. Long after his death, his spirit was redeemed by the Jedi Knight Revan during the Jedi Civil War.

jehvty-archive-deactivated20170  asked:

▲ Star Wars?

Hrm. I’ve been meaning to write something of a serious piece on what I consider the Jedi Order’s greatest flaw, and how that nearly contributed to their destruction twice in a period of four thousand years, but that’s less of an unpopular opinion and more of me illustrating how much of a nerd I am by illustrating how seriously I take a fictional universe. Oh well.

You see, before Lucas directed the prequels and illustrated much of what the Jedi Order was like, at least in the period of the Old Republic’s decline and the Rise of the Empire, the EU writers and the fans had to speculate what the order was actually like based on what little we saw of the Jedi from Obi-Wan and Yoda. As a result, if you read the older material (much of which is non canon now thanks to the new trilogy) you might see a very different picture of the Jedi than you might expect. Instead of the one master per apprentice tradition, there were singular masters who taught many students, later titled Jedi Watchman who oversaw the security of whole star systems, and their philosophies weren’t always singular. Another example that goes against the grain of the prequel era Jedi was the presence of Jedi Lords who existed a thousand years before the films. A Jedi going so far to call themselves a “Lord” as their Sith archenemies might, would be considered anathema to the Jedi of Yoda’s era.

There are other examples, such as groups of Jedi that integrated with the culture of their native system, such as the Corellian Jedi of Han Solo’s homeworld and the Teepo Paladins, a sect that broke off the order due to discarding their lighstabers in favor of blasters (they could use the Force to alter the physics of their blaster bolts to due some Matrix style stuff). 

But the greatest difference between the Jedi of Lucas’ prequel era and the Jedi that already existed in the speculated fiction was that many of them had whole families of their own. Nomi Sunrider, the woman who would become Yoda’s equivalent in her Age, had been married prior to becoming a Jedi, and had a daughter Vima who would eventually follow in her mother’s footsteps to become a Jedi herself. Nomi’s husband, Andur, who’d originally planned on being a Jedi instead of Nomi, had fully expected that he’d be able to train Vima himself before his murder at the hands of gangsters. In the same time period, the Qel-Droma family was famous for having many members present among the Order, with at least three cousins involved in the business of being Jedi. 

One of the core plots of the prequels was that the Jedi Order didn’t permit its members to be married and have families. Recruitment of new Jedi was done through the adoption of children who were strong in the Force randomly among the citizens of the galactic republic. This is a rather huge gap in beliefs and practices among the Jedi. So, how to address the difference in beliefs?

The way they ended up illustrating how these differing philosophies coexisting proved fascinating to me. It also highlighted what I began to see as the greatest flaw of the Jedi, and why I have so much faith that Luke Skywalker’s going to be able to shed that weakness once and for all.

Lets begin with what’s considered to be the Old Republic Era, specifically the ten year period that began with Mandalorian Wars, reached its peak during the Jedi Civil War, and finally concluded with a number of unseen but bloody conflicts called the Dark Wars. Just prior to the beginning of the Mandalorian Wars, the Jedi of this war were recovering from a major conflict with the Sith Lord Exar Kun, their numbers diminished to the point that even decades later they hadn’t quite recovered. As a result, many of the traditions that stressed individual strands of Jedi culture and formation of families were discouraged but not totally censured by the High Council. Given time, it’s likely that we’d see many of the practices of the prequel era Jedi take root in the order. But the onset of the Mandalorian Wars ensured that the Jedi would never find out.

A massive invasion against the Republic by the Mandalorian Neo-Crusaders, a revival of the Mandalorian warrior culture that was led by their supreme leader, Mandalore the Ultimate, in the hopes of conquering the Republic and testing their might against the Jedi. Except, the Jedi did not fight. Still wounded from the last major war, the Jedi Council was hesitant to be drawn into another, along with warnings from the Force that their was something dark on the horizon that went beyond the Mandalorian Crusade. 

Whether the Council was right or not, a group of Jedi led by a charismatic figure who would one day be known as Revan refused to the let the Republic fall without their assistance. They split from the Order, forming what was initially called the Jedi Crusaders in direct contrast to the Mandalorian invaders. Revan defeated the Mandalorians, breaking their fleet at Malachor V, and personally defeating Mandalore the Ultimate in single combat. 

He should have returned to the Republic a conquering hero. Instead, Revan vanished, and later returned as a Dark Lord of the Sith, at the head of a massive invasion fleet consisting alien technology and manned by fallen Jedi and Republic soldiers. Thus began what would later be called the Jedi Civil War, for though Revan, and later Malak ,his apprentice, called themselves Sith, to the greater galaxy, it was as though the Jedi Order had turned on itself, with the Republic being trapped between them.

At war’s end, barely a hundred Jedi were left, and they found themselves targeted by Sith Assassins, reducing an already reduced order to barely a few. When the Dark Wars, as this period was known, ended, what few Jedi were left essentially had to start over from scratch. 

The key part I took away from this age, which were illustrated in the Knights of the Old Republic series, was that the Jedi had a serious flaw in that many of their own number, including some of their greatest number such as Revan, fell to the Dark Side. The second of the two games, KotOR 2, the SIth Lords, was a powerful deconstruction of the Jedi and the Star Wars universe, much of it focused on the Force and its sometimes contradictory nature. Kreia, a fascinating character inspired by both the Emperor and Obi Wan Kenobi,  was the mouthpiece for much of this deconstruction, forcing the player to reevalute their beliefs on the Force, the Jedi, and the Sith. The Jedi of this age were ultimately destroyed because of their inability to examine the flaws and their teachings, and more importantly why they were falling to the Dark Side. The survivors, the majority of which consisted of the Students of a Jedi who’d been exiled from the Order for following Revan to war, and yet had been the only one to return to justify their decision to fight the Mandalorians . Her teachings proved the bedrock of a Jedi Order that was able to restore itself in the three hundred years prior to the next major conflict of the Dark Side, and was open to to varying interpretations of the Force and its meanings.

Fast forward three thousand years, and history repeats itself. The Sith have returned and conquered much of the galaxy, ruling from individual kingdoms across the Galaxy, trapping those within their rule from rescue, and once again the High Council seemed slow to intervene. In frustration, many Jedi went off on their own to fight the Sith, and the they did so spectacularly. Their efforts were so successful that in gratitude, many thankful citizens gave the Jedi the keys to their individual kingdoms, providing the onset of the age of the Jedi Lords, a schism of Jedi who held baronies and titles across the galaxy, formed families, and even managed to occasionally hold political office as the Supreme Chancellor multiple times! They even formed what was unoffically known as the Jedi Grand Council in direct contrast to the more traditional High Council.

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The Jedi of this era were written for the background of the popular Jedi Knight Games that starred Kyle Katarn, a rebel turned Jedi Knight. Katarn’s adventures would lead him to the Valley of the Jedi, which came to be during the end of the Age of the Jedi Lords , or New Sith Wars as they are more commonly. The original Jedi Knight was when the title of Jedi Lord was first introduced. I can only assume after reading the lore of the Jedi in these particular storylines, that the writers assumed that the ancient Jedi must have shared to traits with western knights, including families, noble titles, and a very martial stance on fighting the Dark Side.

I confess I wouldn’t have minded if this turned out to be the case for the Order, as much of their attributes, a dedication to going into dark places for the sake of the innocent, tight bonds of loyalty, and being not unlike many of the Paladins on this blog. But having them being a rival schism of the more traditional Jedi provides some interesting story opportunities.

Opportunities that manifested in the Battle of Ruussan, where two massive armies of Jedi Lords and Sith destroyed each other in massive blast of Force energy, forming the Valley of the Jedi. This seemingly ended the Sith once and for all, and severely weakened the Jedi who did not follow the High Council, their diminished numbers swiftly turning those who still lived into a minority. A minority that found itself censured as the High Council brought the Jedi back to their way of thinking, drawing the Jedi together to the Temple on Coruscant, which would become a the primary training center for the next thousand years, along with enforcing the one master, one padawan rule to prevent any one Jedi from having significant influence over the Order’s future. 

Ironically, the Sith were reforming at this time as well. Darth Bane, partly due to recognizing that the treacherous nature of the Sith and his own personal beliefs on the nature of the Force, instigated the Rule of Two, ensuring there would then only two Sith Lords at any given time. One master to hold the power, and an apprentice to crave it. The Sith then retreated into the shadows, and would not resurface for a thousand years.

And finally we enter the age of the films. The Jedi of this era, though they don’t initially realize it, are under attack from the most devious Sith Lord to ever live: Darth Sidious, or as he’s known from his kindly facade, Sheev Palpatine.

Originally posted by nerdreamer

As of yet, how much of what occurred is due to Palpatine’s singular cunning or was part of the thousand year plan that began with Bane’s reformation of the Sith is uncertain. But the fact of the matter is that he crippled the Jedi well before he ever revealed his true nature, taking advantage of every weakness the Order had given itself in the aftermath of the Battle of Ruussan. He blinded them to future by clouding the Temple itself via an ancient Sith Shrine that was hidden beneath it. He took advantage of their isolationism to ferment resentment among the Republic for the Jedi. He orchestrated a war that was meant solely to grant him massive political power, and slowly bleed the Jedi over a long conflict, and finally, his ultimate coup was turning an emotionally vulnerable and desperate young man to his way of thinking.

The result is devastating for both the Jedi and the galaxy. The Order is betrayed, its future destroyed by the man who was destined to bring balance to the Force. Democracy is willing destroyed, and replaced with a tyrannical Empire that will rule the galaxy with an iron fist.

And two small children are hidden away, tiny lights hidden in the dark. Their planned destiny is to restore galaxy when the time is right. They do, but not in the way their mentors expect, and galaxy is better for it. Luke Skywalker does not slay Sidious, or his father. Because he is not afraid of either either death nor darkness, he redeems Anakin Skywalker, and the Galaxy is given the chance to heal.

Originally posted by thattallnerdybean

Looking back at all of it, all the history and the events that led to so many deaths, and war on massive scale, I recognized one common thread, a reason why history repeated itself. 

Fear. The answer is fear. Specifically, fear of the Dark Side. Rather than risk any interaction with it, large sections of the Order have over the eons have insulated the Jedi and reduced the risk of corruption by preventing conflicting teachings and isolation from the greater galaxy. 

This isolationism made them vulnerable to Sidious’ manipulations, and gave him the opportunity to turn Anakin Skywalker by utilizing his fear of loss. The lack of any varying branches of philosophy also made them predictable, and unable to adapt to a changing political situation. Essentially, what one disillusioned Jedi called Council’s “Damnable sense of over caution” made the Order stagnant and crippled while their greatest enemy only grew stronger in the shadows.

Yet, I have hope for the Jedi of the future. Luke was instructed with the bare essentials on becoming a Jedi Knight, and unlike his teachers was still able to see the kernel of light in Darth Vader’s heart. As this quotation from one of my favorite Star Wars books illustrates, whatever new shape the Jedi take in the future, under Luke’s guidance, they won’t have the same weakness that destroyed them before.

  • Kar Vastor:I have known Jedi. Many, many years ago. That knowing was not a gladness for me. I believed I would never know another, and I rejoiced in that belief. But it is a gladness for me to be proven wrong. I am happy to have known you, Jedi Luke Skywalker. You are more than they were.
  • Luke Skywalker: That’s–I mean, thanks, but I barely know anything.
  • Kar Vastor:So you believe. But I say to you: you are greater than the Jedi of former days.
  • Luke Skywalker: What makes you say that?
  • Kar Vastor:Because unlike the Knights of old, Jedi Luke Skywalker… You are not afraid of the dark

Brianna, also known as “The Last Handmaiden,” or simply “Handmaiden,” was a half-Human half-Echani hybrid fighter, and illegitimate daughter to the famous Echani General Yusanis and Jedi Master Arren Kae, who both fought in the Mandalorian Wars. She later served along with her five half-sisters as a handmaiden to Jedi Master Atris in the period following the Jedi Civil War. During her service to Atris at the Jedi Academy on Telos IV, Brianna met Meetra Surik, also known as the Jedi Exile, and was subsequently tasked with accompanying her on her mission to seek out the Jedi Masters who survived the First Jedi Purge. As Surik’s companion, Brianna helped battle against numerous adversaries, including the Sith Triumvirate.

An AU I like to think about sometimes is what might have happened if the Exile had stayed with the Republic Fleet after getting kicked out of the Jedi Order.

Revan might have had a more difficult time during the Jedi Civil War, for one thing. The Republic would have a rallying figure who could serve as Revan’s equal and opposite, which would definitely help with morale. Given the way the post-Malachor V’s Exile’s Force powers work, she wouldn’t experience a loss of connection with the Force, but would instead draw strength from her companions, getting stronger and stronger until she’d probably be able to give the strongest of the Sith a run for their money. Revan, if she has any idea of the true nature of the Exile’s powers, would probably deliberately avoid engaging her, and could easily be put on the defensive or sent into retreat by sending the Exile her way.

Then there’s the way the Exile would cope with all this. This AU assumes an Exile who wasn’t so broken by Malachor V that she never wanted to interact with anyone ever again, but it’s hard to say how well she’d do fighting against the fallen Jedi, some of whom she had undoubtedly known, cared for, been friends with. How would she cope with being set up as Revan’s equal and opposite, given their implied to be fractious relationship before Revan’s betrayal? Would she hold up under the strain of continuous fighting, or would she hit the sort of emotional nadir that she did in canon after Malachor V?

(Might Kreia take notice of the Exile, if for different reasons than in canon? What might the ramifications of that be?)

But what I like thinking about most of all would be the ramifications on the Jedi Order. What a PR disaster this would be for them: the High Council refused to get involved during the Mandalorian Wars, and then they went and kicked out the only Revanchist Jedi who didn’t betray the Republic.

The Exile would be a walking PR nightmare for them, lowering their standing with the Republic even further, and this might spur the Order into greater action earlier on. How would Jedi sent to fight cope with having to live in the Exile’s shadow? If they interacted with her personally? And just how big a fit would the Council throw if the Republic decided the Exile was the only natural choice to serve as their liaison to the Order?

They wouldn’t be really able to refuse the Exile becoming a liaison. The Order would already be in hot water with the Republic, and any explanation they tried to give for refusing to work with the Exile would just land them in worse trouble. They can either tell the Republic that in kicking the Exile out of the Order they were making an example of her to the rest of the Jedi–making a scapegoat out of her since they couldn’t get to Revan–which given the Exile’s status as the Jedi Order’s worst (PR) nightmare would make them look petty and shortsighted. Or. Or they can tell the Republic that they suspect the Exile is basically a Force black hole, that she is unconsciously feeding off of and dominating others through the Force. They can tell the Republic that they knew this, and told no one, and made no attempt to fix what had gone wrong with her, that they had just let the Exile go where she pleased, and made no attempt to keep her away from other people. I feel like even the most intransigent of the High Council knows what a hammer driving nails into a coffin sounds like.

So after the Council went to the trouble of kicking the Exile out, she’s back, and they can’t get rid of her without committing political self-immolation. Do they keep their distance, deal with her as little as possible, the better to keep her from “changing” them? Or do they finally get over their fear of the Exile enough to try to figure out how her Force bond power works, figure out what happened to her at Malachor V when her ability to perceive changed form and her power mutated, and how she might be healed? With these people, who knows.

On the subject of that last post

Someone needs to write about Captain Rex.

About how Fives death hit him harder than any other. How he started having nightmares about him. About how he took up Fives investigation on his own. About how he found the bio-chip and removed it. About how he got was able to get a few of his most trusted me together and remove their chips.

About Order 66.

About their brothers turning on them when they refuse to match on the Jedi Temple. About them being cut down while only Rex survives and escapes while heavily wounded. About him lying in a back alley and sobbing as he helplessly watches the Temple burn.

About the random citizen finding his unconscious body and nursing him back to health. About Rex shearling off world and making it to the outer rim. About him sending his own coded messages through Jedi channels Ahsoka and Anakin thought him; that he wasn’t supposed to know, warning as many as he could to go into hiding. About him going into deep hiding (about as deep as a clone can go).

About him learning who this new Sith Lord by the name of Darth Vader really is.

About how years later, news reaches him and his small band of guerrillas out in the far outer rim of a fully formed Rebellion. About his contacts finding Bail Organa and setting up a meeting. About Rex becoming one of the best infiltrators in the Rebellion. About him using all of his contacts to smuggle plans of the Death Star to the Rebellion.

About his years of fighting until a skirmish not long after the Hoth. About his men, wounded and barely holding on, being surrounded by the 501st. About Vader leading the march and. About how hours later and massive casualties on both sides only Rex is left. About Vader and Rex facing off one on one. About how Rex removes his broken helmet and stares Vader in the eye. About Vader force choking him and bringing him eye level and demanding to know his number. About Rex staring into the eyes behind the mask and yelling for all the 501st to hear “CT-7567! Captain Rex of the Grand Army of The Republic!” About the older troops and even Vader himself feeling a jolt and memories they suppressed being dragged back to them. About Vader igniting his saber while Rex does not break eye contact. About how right before he strikes Rex calmly says Vader’s name. His real name.

About the 501st loading back into their ships. About Lord Vader walking back to his quarters without a single word. About how under his mask tears are pouring down his scared eyes. About right before take off Vader states in a fleet wide announcement only used for Rebel attacks “If any troops are heard speaking the name Captain Rex or CT-7567, they are to be executed on the spot.

About how that evening there were ten executions.


Revan—renowned as the Revanchist, honored as the Revan, reviled as Revan the Butcher, dreaded as the Dark Lord of the Sith Darth Revan, and praised as the Prodigal Knight—was a Human male who played pivotal roles as both Jedi and Sith in the Mandalorian Wars and the Jedi Civil War. Believed to have been born in the Outer Rim Territories, the man later known as Revan was born around the year 3994 BBY and studied under a number of different Jedi Masters as a Padawan of the Jedi Order. Becoming fast friends with a fellow student named Alek, the young man became a Jedi Knight and was a vocal and charismatic critic of the Order’s inactivity in the ongoing Mandalorian Wars between the Galactic Republic and the Mandalorian warrior clans. Leading the Revanchist movement in defiance of the Jedi Council’s wishes and taking on the name of Revan, the Knight donned the mask of a fallen Mandalorian as he joined the Republic Military’s fight and was appointed Supreme Commander. However, when Revan defeated the Mandalorian leader Mandalore the Ultimate at the Battle of Malachor V in 3960 BBY, Revan and his friend Alek, now known as Malak, followed the trail of a mysterious Sith influence on the Mandalorian Wars to the Unknown Regions, where the two discovered a reconstituted Sith Empire and were turned to the dark side of the Force by the Sith Emperor. This was, until, he was stripped of his Sith persona via a mind wipe, so he returned to the crumbling Jedi Order and helped defeat the Sith Empire he had established during his brace with evil. Revan became a legend himself, having walked the line between Jedi and Sith, and truly becoming one with the force.


The Mandalorian Wars:

The Mandalorian Wars was the term given to the sixteen years of conflict between the Mandalorian warrior culture and the Galactic Republic that began in 3976 BBY with the Battle of Althir. Occurring two decades after the end of the Great Sith War, the Mandalorian Wars spanned almost two decades themselves, though historians often disagreed on the endpoints of the conflict; the Mandalorians raided star systems in the Outer Rim Territories for over a decade before they actually came into conflict with the Republic Military in 3965 BBY. Led by Mandalore the Ultimate, who pioneered the Neo-Crusader movement with the help of his lieutenant, Cassus Fett, the Mandalorians conquered systems along the eastern edge of the galaxy. Though their conquests included the near-extinction of the Cathar species, it was not until their assaults on worlds near the planet Taris that they drew the Republic’s attention. After a year of small conflicts known as the False War, the Mandalorians broke through the Republic’s lines and besieged Taris in 3963 BBY, and then invaded the Republic through three separate corridors in what became known as the Onslaught.

The tide ultimately turned when a group of interventionist Jedi known as the Revanchists, led by the charismatic Revan and his friend Malak, joined the Republic Military in combating the Mandalorians. A tactical genius, Revan won several victories against the Mandalorians and began to reclaim lost territory, prompting Supreme Chancellor Tol Cressa to appoint him Supreme Commander in 3962 BBY. Driving back the Mandalorians, Revan forced a final showdown with Mandalore the Ultimate at the Battle of Malachor V in 3960 BBY. Revan personally defeated Mandalore in single combat as the Republic and Mandalorian fleets battled above Malachor V, and the activation of the superweapon known as the Mass Shadow Generator devastated both the planet and the participating fleets.

The Mandalorian Wars had long-reaching consequences: Revan forced the defeated Mandalorians to disarm and hid Mandalore’s Mask, the symbol of their leadership, and both he and Malak were turned to the dark side of the Force while investigating the Sith influence that had caused Mandalore to go to war. Many of the soldiers and Jedi who followed Revan in the Mandalorian Wars joined the two new Dark Lords of the Sith as they formed their own Sith Empire and invaded the Republic in a subsequent conflict known as the Jedi Civil War.

doodlindee  asked:

what are you most excited to see in the new Star Wars canon? If they rewrite Plagueis' backstory? Jump into Old Republic era? Zeb and Kallus hooking up??

TBH with you I would love to STOP talking about plagueis and his fuck buddy sheev, IN ALL HONESTY, im tired of them being the reason for EVERYTHING. 

I wouldnt mind a nod to the OR no lies. Like a slight head tilt saying like “since the madolorians wars” or “theres history of a jedi civil war” Id probably scream in happiness. Just to make MYSELF (revan) canon. 

But really? I love the new shit. Innovation. I love that you can grow organs from bacta now. I love that Hux enginnered the bridge into the center covered area of the star destroyer because RIP ADMIRAL PIETT. I love that the new astromechs are cylindrical because, duh. 

I want more stuff like that. I want more of rey telling Han Solo how to use the dashboard of a modified, advanced cockpit. I want to see new gadgets and gizmos and neat new ways that the world we know and love has learned from itself and grown. 

So this is a published fic but I think it fits today’s prompt, escape. So @finish-the-clone-wars​, here is my submission for writing Wedensday. This is also kind of AUish lol.

Title: Fortitude

Summary: Despite Obi-Wan’s betrayal to the Jedi and the unrest in the Galaxy, Cody helps Obi-Wan escape his now abusive relationship.

Obi-Wan smiled as he waved toward Satine’s direction.

His wife, with the same enthusiasm returned the gesture and the crowd from below cheered in a mixture of both sadness and respect for their Duchess and Duke. They would no doubt miss Satine while she was away on her journey to Coruscant, but would look to Obi-Wan, her husband to govern them while she was gone.

Obi-Wan gave Satine one final smile, followed by a heartfelt nod as the door to her ship closed. After that, the aircraft arose and was in the atmosphere…within seconds she was gone. Obi-Wan only stayed for a few more seconds to watch the crowd disperse. After that, he too vanished, quickly walking down the corridor and into his quarters, shutting the door behind him.

The former Jedi, and now Duke of Mandalore fell down upon the large mattress, closing his eyes.

Breathing a sigh of relief, it felt as if a great weight was off of his chest now that she was gone. It was easy to put up a smile for the people of Mandalore , and to the people of Satine’s parliament, hell , even himself at times. But between the extravagant lifestyle, which many believed suit Obi-Wan so well, there was sadness underneath the façade he held. Sadness, pain and even abuse…violent and physical abuse. Because for one who preached nothing but peace, Obi-Wan had truly discovered Satine’s true colors.

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Darth Nihilus (pronounced /ˈnaɪ.ə.lɨs/) was a Human male who reigned as a Dark Lord of the Sith during the era of strife following the Jedi Civil War. Before becoming a Sith Lord, he lost everything during the Galactic Republic’s war against the Mandalorian Neo-Crusaders. He survived the activation of the Mass Shadow Generator superweapon during the war’s final battle at the planet of Malachor V, which surrounded the planet with a destructive spatial phenomenon known as a mass shadow. Experiencing the shadow that obliterated almost everything on and around the planet made Nihilus crave Force energy. The affliction painfully ravaged his body while rendering him a wound in the Force.