Hamille & Other Girls
This wasn’t an ask, but it was a comment on a post, so I thought I would answer it as a post:
Sounds like you think Harry and Camille really dated and that she wasn’t a beard. Do you also think he really dated Taylor, Kendall and those 5 other VS models?
First of all, hell no to Taylor. Read my take on that here. I think pretty much any girl Harry was linked to prior to 2015 was not a real relationship.
Considering I think Louis and Harry broke up the beginning of 2015 and Harry is bi/pan, then yes, I think a lot of the women in his life since then have not been fake. The main one I question is Tess Ward. Everything about that one was weird, but she did get weirdly jealous of Camille when Harry started dating her a month later. But the Tess thing only lasted a month, so I don’t really waste much time thinking about it. I don’t actually think there have been that many women, especially considering we are talking about a 4-year span of time in a 20-something-year-old male’s life. What five VS models? The only models I know of were two in 2015: Georgia Fowler and Sara Sampaio. Georgia seems like a definite hook-up to me, since they shared a room at a spa getaway one weekend. Sara is a rumor. She left his hotel early one morning after hanging out with him the night before. She was wearing the same clothes, but this doesn’t prove much. Kendall, yes, I think that happened early 2015. However, since then, not much has actually happened in his “love life” other than perhaps, Camille. Harry went and filmed Dunkirk after Kendall, then went and recorded his album. He stated several times he didn’t have the time to date. Then, Jay passes away. It is my personal belief that Louis and Harry, at least temporarily, got back together at this time. Grief often brings people closer, or at least makes people long for the comfort of companionship, even if the timing is not right. Obviously, there is solid proof Harry went to support him during this time. On January 1, 2017, Louis posted a pic on Instagram wearing “the boyfriend jacket” and then Eleanor was brought in really quickly after that. Why, if Louis and Harry were not back together would El show up? I think she made her original exit when they broke up initially. Also, in February of that year, Louis only took two days off of JHO promo, Harry’s birthday and Valentine’s day. Seemed like they were back together. So, sadly, I think the decision to bring El back on was premature, cause I think Harry and Louis separated by March 2017. Why is she still around, then? Probably so Louis doesn’t have to answer anymore questions about his sexuality and can just say all his songs are about her. Louis stopped posting on social media regularly around March 2017 and Harry went off to do promo for his album. Then, later that year, Louis released Back To You. Despite saying that BTY is not based on his own life, I have strong doubts. He has always written from his own experience and while that song is obviously not about Eleanor (which is why he cannot say it is based on his life), he said it is about an “intense relationship” (lol at the fact that he is implying he and Eleanor don’t have an intense relationship). The song sounded angry. The fact that he chose to use the words “you drag me down” after 1D had a song that stated, “nobody can drag me down,” seemed to me to be the ultimate insult to an ex. Not to mention, Louis chose to release this song and deny his relationship with Harry the same day Dunkirk premiered. That is really really interesting timing. I fully believe this song is about Harry and the fact that they had a bit of an off-and-on thing going, which upset Louis.
Now, since I think Louis and Harry were broken up (again) when Camille came around, I think their relationship is very possibly true. People keep saying that the relationship was to promote HS1, but why would you give a “heartthrob” a girlfriend when all his screaming girl fans want to imagine themselves with him? On top of that, he seemed to really be protective of that relationship. She toured with him much of the first half of his tour in a really low-key way. Meaning, there were no pap pics or social media pics made by them or anyone close to them. There were hardly even any pics of them together. The only proof we have that she was on tour is from the fans. If this was a bearding situation, it was the most low-key bearding situation that ever existed, and a costly one at that, flying her all over the place. They were only papped twice the entire time, both times in L.A. Now, I do think they ended things way earlier than they said, and then Louis came back into the picture during the South American leg of Harry’s tour, which is exactly when she stopped touring with Harry. I think Harry, who didn’t really care what people knew/didn’t know of his love life in the first place, just didn’t let it officially be known that had ended until after tour. But, here is the Camille timeline for others to make up their own mind:
- 7/17 - Nick Grimshaw shows Harry a pic of Camille while he is hooked up to a heart monitor. Harry says he doesn’t know her, but then starts telling his friends behind the scenes that they are idiots and he hates them while he laughs.
- 7/? - Fan pic with H. C in background in NYC.
- 7/30 - Harry & Camille at a party with Alexa Chung (who reportedly introduced them) in NYC
- 8/1 - H & C at a Fleetwood Mac concert together - there is a short video of him holding her shoulders from behind
- 8/7 - H & C out at lunch in LA with C’s friends
- 8/17 - Camille wearing Harry’s Pink Floyd shirt
- 8/28 - Camille spotted standing behind Harry in some fan pics in England
- 8/30 - H is wearing C’s ring
- 9/3 - H’s voice in C’s story
- 9/3 - Seen together in LA at smoothie store
- 9/14 - Seen carrying her purse/she’s wearing his sweater
- 9/14 - Seen at a restaurant - H looks pissed when caught
- 9/21 - C at H’s LA show
- 10/4 - Backstage at his show in Toronto
- 10/4 - H & C seen from backstage watching Muna perform
- 10/5 - C at his Philly show
- 10/10 - French interview where C says the last thing she does at night is text her bf
- 10/15 - C at H’s Austin show
- 10/21 - C at show with Gemma (and maybe Anne?)
- 10/25 - C wearing the necklace from H’s album cover
- 11/9 - C at Amsterdam show
- 11/10 - C at Milan show backstage
- 11/11 - C backstage at H’s X-Factor performance
- 11/24 - H still wearing her ring in Shanghai
- 12/6 - C in Tokyo for H’s show
- 12/8 - C at his show
- 12/31 - Gemma follows C on IG. C was supposed to be back in England w/ H to meet family.
- 1/1 - Seen at a bar/party sitting next to each other
- ½ - H seen holding C’s coat somewhere in California.
- ½ - H & C playing with C’s friends’ baby
- 1/7 - Harry’s good friends were at C’s birthday party
- 1/23 - H & C papped leaving dinner dressed casually - H doesn’t look happy about it
- 1/28 - H & C papped dressed really really casually crossing the street in downtown LA
- 3/13 - C at H’s Paris show + photographed backstage with fans
- 3/16 - C at H’s show + H’s band member follows her on IG
- 3/19 - C + H go to a museum in Denmark together
- 3/19 - C at H’s Denmark show
- 4/8 - C is spotted with a “treat people with kindness” phone case
- 4/16 - C at a show in Dublin
- 4/27 - H has a guitar designed/painted by C’s close friend on tour
- 6/22 - C at H’s NYC show with H’s family and Xander
- 7/14 - C at H’s last show in LA
Notice, after April, she only attended 2 shows, possibly just as a friend. It appears to have been over way before they said it was over.
Maybe I am wrong. Maybe Louis and Harry did get back together end of 2016 and haven’t broken up since. Maybe Camille was a low-key beard and BTY truly isn’t about Louis’ life/Harry, but I just don’t see enough evidence for that being the case.