Everything wrong with the first Flower Crew VAPP live
Well actually i can’t post EVERYTHING because there’s so much wrong with it.
First off yes, Jungkook was a few minutes late but that was because he was worried that the others didn’t eat yet and so he bough them burgers. Jungkook started off really excited and explained the burger and what was in it but Jo Seho shoots him down and says “are you sure these aren’t left overs?” he then refuses to take them and gives them to Jungkook who’s face falls as he whispers “nobody took them” eventually Kim Minseok does eat it saying he was hungry but Seho tells him to “쳐먹어" (very informal and rude basically means “stuff it in”)
Secondly Seo JangHoon was being very rude and korean fans pointed that out (International fans were relying on subtitles which I noticed were slow and not very accurate in many places) anyway he was clearly trying to ride along and use Jungkook’s popularity making Jungkook very uncomfortable. He said stuff such as “Our Jungkookie whom I already know because we were in Yaman TV together” and praised his amazing fans and said he ate food just for Jungkook because Jungkook wanted it and kept going on and on about how amazing he was, how friendly they were, he even forced Jungkook into a huge heart for the camera. Fans then repeatedly told him he was crossing the line and that he was making it uncomfortable by being overly respectful (using two hands to point to him etc) but he just said it was to be funny and that they were close that’s why.
Third Jo Seho was trying to be the opposite and kept saying stuff along the lines of “this broadcast was for Jungkook” (implying that it was Jungkook-centric) and he says that Jungkook shouldn’t go on the flower road he should “show a more humane side and just go through the dirt road” kind of forcefully making Jungkook acknowledge that “It’s okay if I go to the dirt road as long as the system is fair” which brings me to my fourth point…
Seo Janghoon kept calling the system unfair. He didn’t know how the Vapp voting worked (Basically there was the main camera and then 6 other cameras that were personal ones trained only on one cast member and the “votes” were set to zero then when voting was open the hearts counted as votes, so more hearts = more votes) As many of you know on Vapp ONE person can give endless hearts if they wait a few seconds for hearts to recharge (and giving hearts are free) so Seo Janghoon’s complaint was that it was unfair, “It should be one vote per person” implying that Jungkook’s fans should calm down.
That brings me to the last part where a excited Jungkook had to sit on his knees and that (as many would know) really hurts after an extended period of time. He ended up asking fans not to vote for him because the person with the most votes became the “flower path” leader and he didn’t want the pressure of being leader and having to choose his team mates as well as the overwhelming reminder he kept getting that it was “not a broadcast for the viewers but for Jungkook after all” (said by Seho) and that “the voting system is unfair” (said by Janghoon) He said “It’s okay if i’m in the dirt team I just want it to be fair”… nobody WANTS to suffer but near the end he was at the point that as long as he didn’t have the pressure and he could clear his name he was okay with physical suffering. That’s not right.
And also, not just for Jungkook but Seo Janghoon and Seho kept talking not giving other cast members a chance. How could Seho tell Kim Minseok to “쳐먹어"? Very very rude even if he is a senior that’s close to profanity (in fact in broadcast it IS profanity which is why so many korean fans were shocked and talking about it on twitter) It was not professional at all. Kim Minseok was kind enough to read the actual fan comments out loud to try and let the others know what the VIEWERS actually wanted, he read this one IN PARTICULAR saying “Stop making him (Jungkook) uncomfortable” but Janghoon ignores Minseok and just goes “it’s not uncomfortable it’s funny”. Also just not giving Ahn Jung Hwan much time to talk even if he’s a respected retired soccer player and making fun of Yoo ByungJae going like “ohh you actually had a fanclub”?! Is plain rude.
From the voting system to the way the MCs were taking care of this show it was all a mess and I know many people DEMAND for a better system! Please
One’s feelings can be put into words.
That’s why just one remark can give off warmth.
In this cold, harsh world, the thing that allows one to recognize the warmth that is present in life, and makes it worth living is not a wise saying, or a refined, witty remark.
Rather, it is one warm remark filled with one’s raw, unrefined feelings.
First I’d like to apologize that I have this huge headache and my vapp kept buffering like every few minutes
First, this voting system is MESSED UP and very confusing. International fans are always at a lost what to do every time the PD explains and there aren’t subs and it’s not like he’s very good at explain either. Also it’s very clear that the parts we’re watching right now aren’t anything in particular just chat and voting which is pretty bland but that’s because there is a separate filming (after taking the results from who is on the dirt and who is on the flower team they film accordingly and that will be aired at a separate time, the LIVE broadcasts are just for voting)
So the problem this time: the flower team would go to the beach and enjoy it with Girl Group members while the dirt team would go with just men. Naturally armys wanted Jungkook to end up in Dirt team and not be with the girls (why? IDK) but that’s a different rant, anyway so the question of many armys (especially K-armys) was who to vote for as the flower leader? TURNS OUT this time around they were going to switch it last minute and the PD was actually voting for the dirt team leader. So basically everybody thought they had to vote for someone and give them more hearts making them the flower team leader but it turns out that giving Jungkook more hearts made him the DIRT team leader. This time it was the opposite, if Jungkook didn’t want to be on the flower team he NEEDED votes. It was a mess in the comments section because the switch was so last minute even Jungkook didn’t know and had to ask a clarifying question.
During the voting period there wasn’t much talk just what each person was going to do if they happened to be chosen as the team leader. Then somehow the conversation went back to yesterday’s incident. Okay this is where it treads in some dangerous water (but it seems the MCs understood the dangers of just saying whatever on live broadcast and reflected deeply on their actions) So basically Jo Seho and Seo Janghoon were reflecting on their actions yesterday and Janghoon was being very quite which he admits was uncharacteristic of him because he says he would usually go “overboard (with his reaction) on camera/during filming” but he sighs deeply and goes “I can’t do anything and even speaking is hard” to which Seho bounces off “to be truthful Jungkook-ah I was very hurt (in pain) yesterday” I’m sure they’re talking about their SNS accounts (Seo Janghoon was trending on twitter in Korea) Jungkook quickly says he’s gotten closer and it all relatively seemed okay.
Going through twitter and stuff there isn’t much heated discussion like last night but many K-fans are pissed at the way the broadcast is set up and also the attitude because there was no formal apology. The whole atmosphere was “We didn’t mean it that way so don’t take it that way, okay?” And some k-fans were saying they were shifting the blame to the ones who were offended and blaming them for misunderstanding. That may be a nuance thing but the fact still stands there was no formal apology, but the good news is there was no more bashing.
Finally I’ll finish it off on a positive note Jungkook’s saying he’s having a lot of fun that he ate a good breakfast, slept on the same bed with Minseok (haha), he went to the sauna and stuff so he had a fun time. Jo Seho and Jungkook hugged at the beginning and Seho asked if he slept well. (There was some talks about having a heavy heart because some slept outside and some had a room and stuff but that’s minor details really) Jungkook looks like he’s doing a lot better but ARMYS really should not bombard Seho’s SNS because as seen in this broadcast Seho will tell Jungkook straight out that he was hurt and Jungkook will probably feel more apologetic so please try and be more mature. If I put my own two cents in I of course think that he should formally apologize instead of the “it’s a misunderstanding/ it’s the broadcast stuff” but we should ask firmly in a determined yet not in a rude manner. Please remember that ARMYS represent BTS!
SJH : I believe that Bungee Jumping was made just for Shin Hyesung
YJS : If the fans saw you throwing that it might be hard leaving today ~
HS : EVERYONE I GOT HIT !!!!!
[I can not believe this is already seven weeks I could not turn away from Jung Hwan. But I still always like Shinhwa of course. That’s why I’m going to start posting with the caption “Cute Shinhwa and Shin Jung Hwan” , because I like both.]