re_ Kaia and Dean: Dean's had a shitty life. Sam has been in danger a lot, and so has Bobby and Charlie, and plenty of other ppl he cares about. And yet, I can't think of one single moment Dean actually threatened an innocent, let alone a firghtened teenage girl. Now, Sam - that's a different thing. But Dean - no, sorry. He can be harsh, but not like that. Also, the situation Mary's in is in no way his fault. Didnt work for me. :/
I assume you’re responding to the post I reblogged where I didn’t talk about this more in depth because it wasn’t my post and I was just adding my thoughts about the original poster’s thoughts; not wanting to go in a different direction because while, technically, I don’t think it’s completely OOC, I do think he was affected by whatever Jack did when he was doing that golden web mind thing. So, yeah, I agree with you, which is why I’ve been writing posts about Dean being affected by Jack being inside his head. Because the times when Dean has threatened an innocent person it’s been because he’s affected by an outside force, like the Mark. There are a lot of posts right now talking about Dean and panic attacks, for example, as a way to explain Dean’s actions (because of PTSD), but I honestly think the entire scene when Dean is looking so disoriented is ambiguous to the point where all of us are trying to scramble to make sense of what happened. Personally, I felt right away something was off, so when Dean pulled the gun on Kaia, it made sense to me because I saw him being affected by Jack, just like I saw Kelly and Cas being affected and so I said oh okay yep he was definitely fucked up by whatever Jack did.
I think the show missed the mark here just a bit because it is so ambiguous. We can all sit here and posit this and that–for example, Dean had a panic attack or that he was suffering PTDS but we saw no visions which I talked about here. That’s why I don’t think it was necessarily a flashback situation he was suffering from. So instead, I’m seeing Jack having affected him. And, affecting Sam to a lesser degree, and instead of a knee jerk emotional reaction like Dean’s, Sam seemed to not like the situation but felt it was in their best interest/logical to go along with Dean which is a much more Sam reaction but also a little out of character as well. After all, Sam may have put up a token protest but that’s all it was; a token. But yeah, i don’t think Dean would have reacted that way normally, there was something definitely off about him in the scene with Kaia, but I was just trying to say his harshness/desperation wasn’t completely out of nowhere as he’s been known to be harsh when desperate in the past.