its really easy to be a bad player

People act like its so easy for the Nohr sibs to hear that their father is a bad guy and prop this up as the reason conquest sucks in regards to birthright when its really not that simple.

Sure, us as the basically omniscient player on the outside of the screen know this, but the Nohr sibs dont want to believe that the once good man there father was is gone- especially Xander.

He follows his fathers orders everyday without question knowing that hes hurting others and doing despicable things- in his words, “things that tortured my soul”. Heres a man old enough to remember the good that Garon did for Nohr to the point that Xander at one point in time was terrified to talk to his father- and you want him to believe that his idol, who he looked up to basically all his life, isn’t present in his father any longer.

He spends all of Conquest doing this, and then, when he realizes that his father can’t be saved and that you’ve been right all along, hes the first one to TAKE AN ATTACK FOR YOU from him while everyones still stunned.

TLDR; stop saying stuff like the Nohr sibs are bad because they didnt take down their father the first chance they got and that Conquests plot was useless when it makes sense.

anonymous asked:

sorry if you dont want to answer this because it sort of relates to passivechara's response, but im just curious: if chara really is such a bad person, why DID flowey say those things in his speech? telling chara not to worry and that they were fighting to stop the misuse of resets? if chara was a bad person that speech doesnt really make any sense. again, you dont have to answer, im just genuinely curious :P

(undertale spoilers)

it’s important to look at the speech in its entirety. for this, we’ll be working under the assumption that the speech is definitely directed at chara, not the player. you can see it in screenshot form here, but i’ll paste the entire thing from the text dump for easy viewing:


Hi.
Seems as if everyone is perfectly happy.
Monsters have returned to the surface.
Peace and prosperity will rule across the land.
Take a deep breath.
There’s nothing left to worry about.

Well.
There is one thing.
One last threat.
One being with the power to erase EVERYTHING…
Everything everyone’s worked so hard for.
You know who I’m talking about, don’t you?
That’s right.
I’m talking about YOU.
YOU still have the power to reset everything.
Toriel, Sans, Asgore, Alphys, Papyrus, Undyne…
If you so choose…
Everyone will be ripped from this timeline…
…and sent back before all of this ever happened.
Nobody will remember anything.
You’ll be able to do whatever you want.
That power.
I know that power.
That’s the power you were fighting to stop, wasn’t it?
The power that I wanted to use.
But now, the idea of resetting everything…
I…
I don’t think I could do it all again.
Not after that.
So, please.
Just let them go.
Let Frisk be happy.
Let Frisk live their life.
But.
If I can’t change your mind.
If you DO end up erasing everything…
You have to erase my memories, too.
I’m sorry.
You’ve probably heard this a hundred times already, haven’t you…?
Well, that’s all.
See you later…
Chara.


so now let’s dissect it a little!

There’s nothing left to worry about.

“don’t worry about it” doesn’t necessarily mean the person it was being said to was worried. it’s usually a formality. colloquially, “there’s nothing left to worry about” means there is nothing left to do. 

Well.
There is one thing.
One last threat.
One being with the power to erase EVERYTHING…
Everything everyone’s worked so hard for.
You know who I’m talking about, don’t you?
That’s right.
I’m talking about YOU.

and it’s because there is nothing left to do that flowey knows chara is the biggest threat to the happy ending.

That power.
I know that power.
That’s the power you were fighting to stop, wasn’t it?
The power that I wanted to use.

here, flowey seems to be saying something like, “you fought to stop me from resetting the timeline when i was asriel”. couple this with how chara is now the one threat to frisk’s happiness and he seems to be implying that chara is a hypocrite for wanting to do the same – resetting the timeline.

after all, asriel claimed his goal was to reset everything. that’s the power frisk, and supposedly chara who was inside of frisk, was trying to stop. however, consider this: during that fight, asriel thought frisk literally was chara. asriel mistook frisk for chara during the whole fight. and after the fight, asriel never acknowledged that chara was there. instead, he learned frisk’s name and told them about chara.

So, please.
Just let them go.
Let Frisk be happy.
Let Frisk live their life.

flowey begs chara not to do a true reset. he begs for everyone’s happiness, but specifically focuses on frisk. the one friend he wished he always had. 

then comes the most important and telling part of this entire speech.

flowey immediately assumes that chara has disregarded his plea in the past, over and over. he WANTS chara to do the right thing – but he doesn’t actually expect them to at all. after seeing all the good frisk has done in the pacifist route, he’s attempting a last-ditch emotional appeal to the one person who could ruin everything. 

if asriel is to be believed – and he should be – and “chara wasn’t really the greatest person”, this speech absolutely makes sense. it explains why flowey felt that chara was such a huge threat, that they would rip frisk’s happiness away just for their own selfish desires.