So 5x11 cleared that 0.01% doubt I had that Tina will be Oliver 'new' love interest trial. She isn't going to be his love interest, she is just his second chance in a way like Rene and Rory are, so Tuna is in team now! Find Black Canary task is checked now Susan is gonna disappear soon and Felicity is gonna go dark! Oliver is gonna be her light this time!!!! OMG! we will be seeing Olicity reunion but this time with Oliver saving Felicity from darkness! What are your thoughts on it?
Sorry I didn’t get around answering sooner. I just wanted to see a few scenes myself before responding. Now that I did I can say that I absolutely agree. Oliver and Tina were really not set up as possible lovers, at least not for now. I mean… I actually don’t believe it will ever happen (I really don’t!), but things might change (probably not, but you never know). :D
When I woke up on Thursday I read about a lot of people commenting on how Oliver said Tina was his second chance and how they had a scene in the office with a lot of light like a parallel to Olicity in 5x05. That was why I needed to check myself and I watched a few scenes to decide what I think.
So yeah, for me Oliver and Tina really weren’t set up to be lovers yet. It seemed a lot more like he was taking someone onto the team, someone who a) wasn’t very happy to join it in the first place and who actually needed convincing and who is b) very much broken right now, much more than Oliver still is.
The second thing leads me to the scene in the office at the end. I don’t think it was anything similar to Olicity’s scene in 5x05 because while Olicity was bathing in dazzling light, like really when you watch the scene it’s like you need sun glasses or you wonder if the whole thing was overexposed because people didn’t know what they were doing (they totally did because that light was there for good reasons!), the light in the scene between Oliver and Tina in 5x11 was much more the normal light that comes from the window. Only half of their faces were lightened by it, while the other was in the dark. For me that just looked like two people who both have some darkness still in side of them, but who also still or again have some light. And as the scene comes to an end and the camera is outside of the window it focuses on the light part of them because they agree to work together and do good. For me that whole scene was just showing how Oliver shared an absolutely non-romantic moment with someone very similar to him, inspiring this person to become better and focus on the light like he does this season.
So yeah for me this really was just two team mates talking, no future lovers.
I actually still think from what we have seen of Tina she might start something with Wild Dog, especially given the background we might get on him losing his wife and child. That is something that they could connect over. They both lost the person they loved romantically.
Anyway, I think Stephen didn’t lie when he said “Billy needs to die first” for Olicity to move. Of course it is not about Billy dying because that guy would have been dumped sooner or later anyway. We already saw the cracks in what they had in 5x09, at least that is how I feel about it. Anyway, that Stephen meant, I think, was much more about Felicity finally doing something that will really make her break eventually.
These last two episodes gave us more movement on Olicity and their story than most of what we have seen all this season together. They are fighting, they are making up and they are finally talking to each other again… or not given Felicity’s secret. It’s kind of a little secret so far, but I guess it will soon grow while it is taking her deeper into the darkness.
It really is going to be great to see Felicity going back to old days and unleashing all her bottled up anger, frustration and heartbreak on Prometheus, making terrible mistakes and letting the darkness consume her in the meantime. I know Emily will be great. Her performance especially in 5x10 was one of her best I think. It was dark, yet not too dark and still a lot Felicity.
Anyway, I do think that wherever the darkness will take her, it’s going to be interesting to see Oliver’s reaction. He knows it isn’t his priviledge to be dark and make mistakes, but it will be hard for him to watch Felicity struggling so badly. He might also get angry for a moment because he and Felicity are limited to being work partners right now. They aren’t together anymore and you can’t really be friends with your ex, so they are just close partners in crime even if the line between being that and being friends is a thin one. Anyway, lying about the Pandora’s files means that she doesn’t even trust her work partner in this right now. And yeah, that might bring up some issues that still aren’t really discussed between them I think. It might even get quite ugly for a moment or two, BUT – and this is an important but – it can only get better once all issues are talked out and solved. They can’t be ignored because that is what made them drift so far apart since 4x15.
At the end Oliver’s new hope and his new trust will help Felicity to find her way back into the light and to overcome the pain about what has happened and the regret of what she has done. It will take some times and we will have to suffer in the meantime (Reporter Chick is still there), but we are going to see Olicity reunite eventually, however long it takes. I have never been surer.
P.S.: One thing I would like to say about Susan and the writers saying that she will be a source of hope for Oliver. I do think that it’s much more him projecting his growth like the new found hope on her. Felicity always prompted him to be better, but he isn’t with Felicity anymore and given how little they actually talk and in what place Felicity is right now, she isn’t harnessing his light that much anymore. She does still harness it in a way I guess, but she is not the main reason for Oliver’s growth which is great because Oliver’s growth now is really just because of him. There is nobody to stand next to him and tell him to become better and how to do it. He is growing because he accepts both parts of himself, Oliver Queen and the Green Arrow. He also sees why he is doing is and does it because he wants it and not because people expect it of him. Oliver just isn’t used to himself growing without any help because he was struggling with his darkness too much until now. That is why he projects his growth onto Susan like he did in 5x09 I think. Sure, if she won’t betray him and feel inspired by him, he will see hope that people can change and that he can change, but again it won’t be really Susan that’s the hope. It will much more be about the fact that he finally is the inspiration he always hoped he would be. Oliver just needs to see that he is growing because of his new found hope and his new found will to make the city a better place. It’s not about Susan. It’s not about Felicity. It’s about nobody but him. And that might be my lifeline in this season of pain and slight separation of the core characters. I hope he will see this, Oliver accepting that his growth comes from within him, soon.