it was one of the first things i thought of when i watched 4x15

anonymous asked:

So 5x11 cleared that 0.01% doubt I had that Tina will be Oliver 'new' love interest trial. She isn't going to be his love interest, she is just his second chance in a way like Rene and Rory are, so Tuna is in team now! Find Black Canary task is checked now Susan is gonna disappear soon and Felicity is gonna go dark! Oliver is gonna be her light this time!!!! OMG! we will be seeing Olicity reunion but this time with Oliver saving Felicity from darkness! What are your thoughts on it?


Sorry I didn’t get around answering sooner. I just wanted to see a few scenes myself before responding. Now that I did I can say that I absolutely agree. Oliver and Tina were really not set up as possible lovers, at least not for now. I mean… I actually don’t believe it will ever happen (I really don’t!), but things might change (probably not, but you never know). :D

When I woke up on Thursday I read about a lot of people commenting on how Oliver said Tina was his second chance and how they had a scene in the office with a lot of light like a parallel to Olicity in 5x05. That was why I needed to check myself and I watched a few scenes to decide what I think.

So yeah, for me Oliver and Tina really weren’t set up to be lovers yet. It seemed a lot more like he was taking someone onto the team, someone who a) wasn’t very happy to join it in the first place and who actually needed convincing and who is b) very much broken right now, much more than Oliver still is. 

The second thing leads me to the scene in the office at the end. I don’t think it was anything similar to Olicity’s scene in 5x05 because while Olicity was bathing in dazzling light, like really when you watch the scene it’s like you need sun glasses or you wonder if the whole thing was overexposed because people didn’t know what they were doing (they totally did because that light was there for good reasons!), the light in the scene between Oliver and Tina in 5x11 was much more the normal light that comes from the window. Only half of their faces were lightened by it, while the other was in the dark. For me that just looked like two people who both have some darkness still in side of them, but who also still or again have some light. And as the scene comes to an end and the camera is outside of the window it focuses on the light part of them because they agree to work together and do good. For me that whole scene was just showing how Oliver shared an absolutely non-romantic moment with someone very similar to him, inspiring this person to become better and focus on the light like he does this season. 

So yeah for me this really was just two team mates talking, no future lovers. 

I actually still think from what we have seen of Tina she might start something with Wild Dog, especially given the background we might get on him losing his wife and child. That is something that they could connect over. They both lost the person they loved romantically.

Anyway, I think Stephen didn’t lie when he said “Billy needs to die first” for Olicity to move. Of course it is not about Billy dying because that guy would have been dumped sooner or later anyway. We already saw the cracks in what they had in 5x09, at least that is how I feel about it. Anyway, that Stephen meant, I think, was much more about Felicity finally doing something that will really make her break eventually. 

These last two episodes gave us more movement on Olicity and their story than most of what we have seen all this season together. They are fighting, they are making up and they are finally talking to each other again… or not given Felicity’s secret. It’s kind of a little secret so far, but I guess it will soon grow while it is taking her deeper into the darkness.

It really is going to be great to see Felicity going back to old days and unleashing all her bottled up anger, frustration and heartbreak on Prometheus, making terrible mistakes and letting the darkness consume her in the meantime. I know Emily will be great. Her performance especially in 5x10 was one of her best I think. It was dark, yet not too dark and still a lot Felicity. 

Anyway, I do think that wherever the darkness will take her, it’s going to be interesting to see Oliver’s reaction. He knows it isn’t his priviledge to be dark and make mistakes, but it will be hard for him to watch Felicity struggling so badly. He might also get angry for a moment because he and Felicity are limited to being work partners right now. They aren’t together anymore and you can’t really be friends with your ex, so they are just close partners in crime even if the line between being that and being friends is a thin one. Anyway, lying about the Pandora’s files means that she doesn’t even trust her work partner in this right now. And yeah, that might bring up some issues that still aren’t really discussed between them I think. It might even get quite ugly for a moment or two, BUT – and this is an important but – it can only get better once all issues are talked out and solved. They can’t be ignored because that is what made them drift so far apart since 4x15.

At the end Oliver’s new hope and his new trust will help Felicity to find her way back into the light and to overcome the pain about what has happened and the regret of what she has done. It will take some times and we will have to suffer in the meantime (Reporter Chick is still there), but we are going to see Olicity reunite eventually, however long it takes. I have never been surer. 

xoxo Kathi

P.S.: One thing I would like to say about Susan and the writers saying that she will be a source of hope for Oliver. I do think that it’s much more him projecting his growth like the new found hope on her. Felicity always prompted him to be better, but he isn’t with Felicity anymore and given how little they actually talk and in what place Felicity is right now, she isn’t harnessing his light that much anymore. She does still harness it in a way I guess, but she is not the main reason for Oliver’s growth which is great because Oliver’s growth now is really just because of him. There is nobody to stand next to him and tell him to become better and how to do it. He is growing because he accepts both parts of himself, Oliver Queen and the Green Arrow. He also sees why he is doing is and does it because he wants it and not because people expect it of him. Oliver just isn’t used to himself growing without any help because he was struggling with his darkness too much until now. That is why he projects his growth onto Susan like he did in 5x09 I think. Sure, if she won’t betray him and feel inspired by him, he will see hope that people can change and that he can change, but again it won’t be really Susan that’s the hope. It will much more be about the fact that he finally is the inspiration he always hoped he would be. Oliver just needs to see that he is growing because of his new found hope and his new found will to make the city a better place. It’s not about Susan. It’s not about Felicity. It’s about nobody but him. And that might be my lifeline in this season of pain and slight separation of the core characters. I hope he will see this, Oliver accepting that his growth comes from within him, soon.

A Ghost at the Back of Your Closet 

In which Framework!Fitz is confused about her motivations, and Jemma is trying, really, she is, but her body is still operating like it thinks he’s the enemy.

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cw for a mention of childhood abuse, and discussion of the attack in 4x15 

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“I need a shower,” Daisy groans out, rubbing her hands down her face. She flops back on the seedy motel bed, eyes pointed toward the white, popcorn ceiling in a withering stare. “Why do I even need a shower? We’re in the fucking Matrix, none of this is real. Yet still, I smell. It’s completely unfair.”

Jemma sits at the foot of the bed, inspecting the map they’ve drawn on the wall (it’s not like it’ll matter, once they shut the framework down. What’s a little destruction of private property in the grade scheme of things?). Each of the team’s locations are marked with pushpins, along with lists of all the information they’ve managed to gather on them. It’s not enough, Jemma knows. They need more.

“You do smell a little.”

Hey,” Daisy whines.

Jemma turns back to her, blinking innocently. “What? I said ‘a little’.”

“Whatever.” Daisy pushes off the bed, walks backwards toward the bathroom. She raises an eyebrow at Fitz, who’s sitting on the other bed. “You two gonna be okay without adult supervision for a little while?”

Jemma freezes. She and Fitz, this Fitz—Leo, he’s called here, though she refuses to call him that, even in her head—haven’t been alone together since they finally managed to convince him to come along. She knows what Daisy’s implying, and Jemma wishes she wouldn’t. She’s more than a little uncomfortable with the idea. This isn’t Fitz. Her Fitz. That’s what she tells herself is the problem, anyway.

“Yeah- uh- yeah, we’ll be fine,” Fitz says when she doesn’t speak, when it’s gotten just a little uncomfortable.

Daisy eyes them both, then holds up her hands, retreating to the bathroom.

Jemma doesn’t turn around to look at him. She knows what she’ll see. He’ll be sitting there, looking so much like Fitz but so not, so, so out of place in his posh suit and scarf. Looking like a person who would never set foot in a motel of all places, which he’d voiced when they’d arrived. He’s close, but he’s not Fitz. So she doesn’t look.

Plus, he might be looking back at her. She doesn’t know exactly why, but that’s the last thing she wants.

So she just focuses on the work in front of her. Not that she’ll figure out anything new just by staring at the same slips of paper they have been for the last two days, but still. The effort matters.

He waits until the water is running in the shower before he speaks. His presence alone is stifling, but his voice is something even more jarring.

“Why do you want me back?” he asks, and of all things it’s not what she expected. It confuses her enough that she looks back at him. He’s watching her carefully, thoughtfully, not really looking at her eyes but lower on her face, and it’s so Fitz-like that she wants to cry.


“I- He- obviously wasn’t very good to you. Why do you even want him back?”

Her eyebrows draw together, mouth popping open in confusion. “Where are you getting that? Fitz is never anything but good to me.”

“You flinch.”

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A Tall Tail: mermaid!Captain Charming

To be honest, this was a long time coming; it just took until now—and some reinvigorated mermaid inspiration due to @thisisevenharderthannamingablog‘s fantastically fun mermaid fic (GO READ THE THING)—to get me to write it.

If you’re not familiar with the story, the main thing you need to know is: Killian is a merman. When Ursula chucked him into the ocean in 4x15, Ariel didn’t save him—his latent mer-genetics did, and it diverges from there (so no Dark Ones, Camelot, or Underworld in this ‘verse). You can read from the beginning here, if you want.

If not, then here’s a story about Charming and Killian as mermen…enjoy! and HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO B!!!

While enjoying his usual morning breakfast at Granny’s, Killian suddenly found himself with a guest. David slid into the empty booth across from him and attempted a casual “good morning,” but given his out-of-the-ordinary appearance and general look of consternation, it was easy for Killian to tell that something was up. (Apparently, his ability to read Emma so well was inherited on her part.)

“What brings you in today, David?”

“Uh, well…I’m not sure how to ask this…” It was rare for the prince to be so hesitant, and rarer still that he came to Killian with a question—they usually were already lumped together, facing off against one villain or another. “Well, you know how you and Emma went on that vacation to visit Ariel and Eric?”

“Aye.” They’d spent a week with his “mermate,” as Emma called her, enjoying the amenities of Eric’s maritime kingdom.

“I was wondering…do you think that cuff of yours works both ways?” he asked, gesturing to the leather bracelet on the pirate’s wrist—the one that kept his tail at bay.

Killian was more than taken aback at the prince’s query; since when had he any desire to join the ranks of merfolk? Had he perhaps grown intrigued by tales of underwater adventures from Emma? (Or, all those months ago, when Killian thought the man had been eyeing his tail in mere surface curiosity, had it ran deeper than that?)

Regardless of the reason, Killian had a free day ahead of him in which he’d already planned to take a dive; company couldn’t hurt.

“I don’t know, mate; but I’m willing to find out if you are.” David’s grin was the only reply he needed.

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Arrow Fic: From a Beautiful Beginning to a Muted Kind of End

post-4x15, right after Felicity walks out. What comes next?

“Ever since the engagement party, when Curtis put the possibility in their minds, he’s allowed himself to hope, imagining Felicity walking towards him in the lair, in their bedroom, down the aisle in a white dress. And then, like so many of his dreams, it crumbled in front of his eyes.”

Title from “It’s Never Too Late to Be Alone” by Del Amitri.

From a Beautiful Beginning to a Muted Kind of End (AO3)

It might be an hour before Oliver snaps out of the daze she leaves him in, before his retinas scrub away the image of her standing in front of him and then, walking away. Rubbed raw from leaving his message to William, when the fresh wave of grief rends the flesh from his bones, he sits frozen in shock as she shuts the door behind her, so still he nearly forgets to breathe.

He’s hoped for it. If he’s honest, he even tried praying once or twice. Ever since the engagement party, when Curtis put the possibility in their minds, he’s allowed himself to imagine Felicity walking towards him in the lair, in their bedroom, down the aisle in a white dress. And then, like so many of his dreams, it crumbled in front of his eyes, inverted in on itself and became something dark and painful.

She stood, and they had both murmured their disbelief under their breaths, broadcast their heartbroken wonder into each other’s eyes. And then, she left.

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Some thoughts about 4x15 (this is a long one, but I hope you’ll like it all the same)

After all the gifs making and re watching that one scene again and again and again (and again…) I decided that it’s time to write my weekly meta about this episode that turned out to be one of the best I’ve seen on the show in a while. This is of curse a CS meta and in this episode we had a lot of CS related things. Thanks God.

I have to say that I really had my hopes up for this one, like I have every time before a Hook centric episode. While Emma’s centric episodes are not always related to CS, the ones that focus on Hook have to be, because as we witness again in this episode, Emma is everything to him. And although this episode didn’t bring me what I originally fantasized about (I’m in the constant desire for coffee when I wait for an episode) I think the element of surprise from what we did get made it even better, but I’ll get to “that one scene” later.

Before I start my meta I have to say on a side note that I really loved the integration of the fairy tales in this episode. Pinocchio’s nose was such a perfect touch, but I enjoyed even more the parallels it had to my favorite Disney movie “the little mermaid”. When “Ariel” aired I have to say that I was a bit disappointed with the writers take on it and I just feel like they made it right with “poor unfortunate soul”. The voice in the shell thing was done so perfectly and although I doubted they will do another thing with the voice after Ariel also lost hers in 3x06, I’m glad they did it at the end. I also enjoyed hearing her singing the songs from the movie (especially the one in the tavern that was a great touch). I also loved the integration of the story from the Greek mythology about the singing of the mermaid that made man jump after her and drawn in sea when they heard it.  

But now for the meta thing, first of all I want to talk a little bit about Hook and Ursula. I loved their interaction in this episode! Hook actually gave young Ursula compliments that we saw him give only to Emma before that (although chronologically it was after). He actually called her “a brave lass” pretty close to the famous  "tough lass" he called Emma and it reminded me once more how Hook is pro women and how he admires women who take control over their own lives. 

When I saw Hook wanting to help Ursula, while respecting his code, I saw the same Hook I see today after the redemption process, which makes me say once more that he was always the same deep down. Seeing that one scene in which he breaks his own code just made me feel sorry for him in a way. The revenge he was seeking made him betray someone he respected, someone who has become his friend. This is something we will not see from Hook today, that’s not really him, it’s not part of his code. That gave us yet another indication of how the pain Rumple caused him and seeking revenge destroyed his life.  

I have to say that I didn’t care much for that scene, not because he did an evil act, we knew already that he took Ursula’s happy ending, but because it was done too quickly and kinda felt unnecessary to be honest. I think the writers could have found a better way to do it than just him wanting to make her father hurt, when just taking her away from him would have done just that without having to crush her soul in the process. That was maybe the only one thing I didn’t like in this episode, but all the rest was written so perfectly that I just let this one slide.

Hook did a lot of bad things in the past, but I think the ones he regretted most were the things he did to Ursula and Ariel. Not because they were worst acts than what he did to others, but because he actually liked and respected these women and genuinely wanted to help them. By betraying them he was also betraying himself, not following his own code. After all, these women helped him, Ursula saved his ship and Ariel helped him find it many years later. And yet, at the moment of truth he let them down. I’m glad that this episode brought back Ariel, not only because it was most needed in an episode focusing on Ursula, but because it actually gave Hook two closures in one episode. And you could see both of them forgiving him in this episode. Sure after a murder attempt and a slap in the face, but that’s how it is on this show. Ariel is just the sweetest and she actually blamed Hook for the fact that she needed to save BB. I loved that! At the end Hook saved Ariel and she returned a favor. He also brought back Ursula’s happy ending. So I think that at the end of the day his remorse of the things he did to the both of them made it possible for him to get these most wanted closures.

But at the same time, in this episode Hook once more let his own weakness overcome him. He called it “fall into the darkness”, I just see it as Rumple’s hold on him that he is still fighting to let go of. Wanting to know what Rumple is after made him flip because as we learned later he was afraid of losing his happy ending and to this day Rumple was the one who took his happiness once and the one who is threatening of doing so in the present.

Hook was terrified by this darkness that overcame him for a second because he knew that that dark man wasn’t the person he wants to be, that it’s not really him. Once again he became that man for a second there because of the same reason. He wanted his revenge against the man who hurt him once more. But maybe the one thing I liked about it was that this time he had a full support and understanding from Emma. She knew where he was coming from, as she pointed out while defending him with her parents, but she was also confident that in the moment of truth he will do the right thing this time and he did.

I’m thinking about the sentence that Ariel said to Hook about villains looking to get their happy ending the wrong way. Pointing a gun at Ursula was Hook’s wrong way of protecting his own happy ending and after Ariel said it he was thinking of how a hero would have acted. And then he acted like the hero that he is now. 

Part of Ursula’s happy ending wasn’t just getting her voice back, it was about getting it the right way and have a reunion with her father. I don’t think Hook knew that the one who enchanted the shell needed to be the one to restore the voice. I think he have realized that bringing Ursula her father will be the right way to make peace with her. Bringing her the thing she missed most beside her singing voice.

Hook at the end acted like a hero and Emma’s faith in him was just. I absolutely loved Emma in this episode, as I loved her in all the episodes of 4B. She is being there for him through everything. I love seeing it finally going both ways. He was always there for her and she opened up to him, but we have rarely seen him do the same with her. He had those strong fears of losing her and not feeling worthy, or even fall back into the darkness, but only now Emma knows of these fears. And as much as I loved Emma’s friendship with Elsa in 4A that was the thing preventing it from happening back then (along with the ice queen plot) and I’m so glad the writers have finally made it happen.

Seeing Emma believing in him so strongly, after she constantly doubted him in the past, makes me feel so proud of her. Sure, she is in love and maybe she sometimes ideal the situation, but she is choosing to see the best of him because he horned it. At the end, he did bring Ursula her happy ending back and in the process he took responsibility of his wrong doing of the past, something that btw I don’t see Snow and Charming doing at the moment, and that’s makes him a true hero. Emma’s proud face was the most adorable thing. She knows who he is, what he’s made from. And maybe this look was a closure for us after we couldn’t really enjoy the same proud look back in 3x17 (because back then he wasn’t really the one bringing Ariel her happy ending). But if back then the proud look was accompanied with a big surprise, this time Emma wasn’t surprised at all. She knew he will do it, she knew he will act heroically.

And now at the almost end of this already too long meta I have to talk a bit about “that one scene”. As I already said in the past, my ranking of a CS scene is related to the way the scene affects my heart at the first moment I watch it. This scene has become one of my favorites on the show to this day because my poor heart was shivering all over the place there. It really reminded me of the way I reacted to the “when I win your heart, Emma”. This “Don’t you know, Emma? It’s you.” Was one of the most romantic things I have ever heard on a show (I would say the most romantic thing, but than again, Hook said some other heart melting things to her). And Colin was delivering it so perfectly. Like in the “when I win your heart” he was saying the word “Emma” in the most perfect way. We already know how meaningful the sentence is when he calls her by her first name and this moment really delivered it.

When she asked him to tell her what it was, I first thought that she acted like one of these women who wants to hear the man saying things officially, but seeing her reaction after he said it made me realize that she really didn’t know he was talking about her. She hoped it was, but she didn’t know it because she was never in this position before. Emma learned in the last couple of years that she is indeed matters to people and that they care about her. But these people, her parents, her friends, Henry all have other people in their lives aside from her. I already talked in a different meta of how disturbing it is that to her parents she isn’t the person they love most and it wasn’t her heart that Snow had to sacrifice to activate the curse in 3B. She was never “number one” to anyone before, even her son has two mothers and somewhere along the way she came to accept it. But now a man came to her and told her that he chose her above all people that his entire happiness depends only on her.  She suddenly realized she is the top priority of someone. And while she was the savior and brought people their happy ending back, for this one person she wasn’t only bringing it back, she was it.

And as I said on one of the gifsets I published yesterday, “happy ending” isn’t just about the happy part, it also speaks about the end. By saying to her that she is his happy ending Hook is letting her know that what he feels for her will last forever that what they have is eternal. This man who didn’t surprise her one bit when he gave Ursula back her happy ending, managed to surprise her once more when he talked about his own. And if there was something that made this moment even more perfect was that one single soft tear at the end. It really reminded me of the tear from “tangled”, I think Emma’s tear was also a magical one that could have woken the dead.  

I'm suss about Ali again

Well, that didn’t last long. I tried though, I really did. It’s just that after the clandestine meeting between Emily and Alison this week (4x16) I found myself agreeing with basically everything Spencer said. And it’s very rare that I do that.

Cut for length, plus I’m tagging this #Alison DiLaurentis because it’s about her, but if you consider unflattering theories to be ‘hate’, then stop reading now. (Not tagging it #Emison though.)

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Oliver’s Speciality (4x15+)

A/N: We most likely won’t be able to see Oliver breakdown.
But we can imagine it.

P.S. This is set between 4x15 and 4x16. Not sure if there’s a time jump between these two eps but since the episode air weeks apart, I decided to just go with that regarding with pacing of time.

Chapter summary: Oliver rarely breaks down, but after losing both William and Felicity, will he be able to keep it together?

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Originally posted by mezbeleyer

The week after Felicity walked away needing her space was odd. Oliver never realized just how much he needed and craved the domesticity, waking up next to her, brushing their teeth in the bathroom, and above all, cooking for her.

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