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anonymous asked:

I absolutely loved season 4 of RTTE! The graphics were great and I enjoyed so many of the episodes. Especially touching was the scene with Toothless and Hiccup in Dire Straits. It left me in tears and was so well put together! I would love to hear your thoughts on that episode! Would you be willing to analyze it?

I think this moment in Race to the Edge Season 4 was one of the highlights of the season. It was an extraordinary moment between Hiccup and Toothless. The facial expressions and body language demonstrate the love and closeness these two share, while Toothless’ gutsy actions show how much he was willing to risk to try to save his best friend. Even in an impossible scenario like this one, Toothless does not give up. To my last anon friend who feels that Toothless did not try hard, I hope my description of the situation explains why I believe that Toothless does everything in his emotional power and physical might to try to save his best friend. This dragon did not do nothing. On the contrary, he does a whole lot in an attempt to save the human he loves! It’s an incredible moment and displays their friendship oh-so-powerfully.


Now. One wonderfully written element about Dire Straits is that, from the very beginning, the story sets up the concept of Hiccup going deep underwater, and Toothless fretting about the venture. Toothless commonly becomes leery of Hiccup’s experiments, be it gliding through the sky or submerging deep below the ocean surface. In fact, every single time we see Hiccup prepare to descend in his latest invention, we also see Toothless cringing, moaning, and worrying. Toothless is fearful something might go wrong.

As we know, having seen the whole episode, Toothless’ worries end up being founded. Something does go wrong and Hiccup almost dies. And we see an early, powerful moment foreshadowing the climax of Dire Straits. The first time Hiccup tests out his invention, Toothless stares worriedly at him from the other side of the amber, with a similar camera angle to the horrific scene that happens at the end of the episode.

And at the same time we see Toothless worrying throughout the episode, we watch Hiccup preparing. During this time, we learn much about the construction of Hiccup’s underwater cauldron. It is constructed from Gobber’s old metal smelting cauldron and reinforced with Gronckle iron, an alloy that is stronger than iron. The death song amber window is thick and triple reinforced to ensure it does not break. The cauldron is built of an incredibly thick metal base, easily several inches thick, and due to its heavy weight, it must be raised and lowered with thick chains through a pulley system. The thick metal dome is held up by three heavy metal supports, presumably constructed from Gronckle iron, too, given as they appear to be the same material as the other reinforcements.

This robust construction is actually an important aspect of the episode’s climactic underwater accident. The point is that this is a very, very firm invention, something Fishlegs even describes as “dragon-proof.” Dragons cannot simply break open this device. It’s not that easy. It’s reinforced with Gronckle iron. And… it is so heavy that it requires a very robust pulley system… the average-sized dragon isn’t going to be able to carry this thing. The story makes it seem like this solid construction would be an asset, as it would prevent breakage or damage while Hiccup was underwater. He needed this to stay together or else he would die. However, what ends up happening is that this solid construction is so solid that… Toothless cannot get Hiccup out of it.

So everything building up to the climax leads to it: the strong construction of the cauldron and Toothless’ continued worrying all lead to the moment Hiccup is trapped underwater.


Part of what makes that scene so emotional and effective is the extent to which Toothless tries to save Hiccup. Toothless’ heroics start small but then spiral into increasingly dangerous, gutsy, futile actions. 

When the dragon riders first realize Hiccup is in danger, Toothless is already unnerved and tense, constantly staring down at the water. When Fishlegs says that they cannot bring Hiccup up because it’s too early, Toothless growls. Toothless wants Fishlegs to pull Hiccup out of the water; he would rather have his dragon rider companion alive than the Submaripper rescued.

And then the pulley system breaks. Here comes Toothless’ first enormously bold move. He instantly charges and grabs the cauldron’s pulley chain to try to pull Hiccup up. Even though an enormous, heavy metal dome is hurtling down ocean waters, and there’s no possible way a single Night Fury could carry such a weight, Toothless grabs the chain anyway. It’s a desperate, frantic, emotional, instinctive action. It’s not the most logical choice to grab on this chain… but what we see is that Toothless’ first instinct is to save Hiccup’s life. 

As expected, Toothless grabbing and pulling on the chain with all his physical power does squat. He is pulled down to the bottom of the ocean with Hiccup.

Already, we have one desperate, emotional, frantic action coming out from Toothless. And this is just the start of the dragon’s attempts to save his friend.


Now Hiccup is trapped on the bottom of the ocean surface. Toothless wastes no time trying to free Hiccup. Toothless swims around the cauldron, yanking on chains (which is a completely useless and emotional task, if you think about it… if he can’t pick up the cauldron the first time, he can’t pick it up the second or third or fourth times). Toothless also, as you point out, fires several plasma blasts underwater at the cauldron.

But there’s only so much Toothless can do in these conditions. The plasma blasts hit their mark, going straight to the base of the cauldron, but they’re not going to be as effective as they are above water. This is because Toothless fires acetylene charges that react to oxygen. When acetylene and oxygen interact, they create a plasma blast. Here’s the problem: Toothless is underwater. The acetylene cannot come in contact with oxygen. It’s the same reason why fire doesn’t burn underwater; water prevents the fire’s fuel from coming in contact with needed oxygen. So even if Toothless gave his largest, most aggressive plasma blasts underwater… they’re… not going to do much. Not in these conditions where we don’t have much free oxygen gas floating around.

Granted, even if Toothless had access to his full firepower, it’d probably be wise if Toothless didn’t shoot his strongest blasts. Plasma blasts are extremely explosive, and we don’t want Toothless killing Hiccup with his own shots. But that’s still all a hypothetical. We don’t know if Toothless was giving his full firepower or not underwater here… but we do know that Toothless was giving his best attempt to free Hiccup. We do know that, chemically, Toothless’ plasma blasts are rather weakened. His shots, which he uses for so many useful, quick-save tricks above water, are useless down here.

Another strength of Toothless’ that is suddenly depleted underwater… is his speed. Sure, Toothless is a fast swimmer from what we see, but it’s going to be nowhere close to the hundred mile speeds he gets in the sky. This is another thing to consider when we watch Toothless swimming around seeking to save Hiccup. Maybe it looks like Toothless’ attempts are “weak” and “halfhearted” because he seems to be moving slowly and without much force. But he’s underwater. Have you ever tried running even just waist-deep in water? You can’t. You’re extraordinarily slowed down. There is no way for Toothless to move quickly; I bet he’s moving about as fast as he can.

Here we see Toothless using all the tricks he usually employs to save others… and these tricks fail. Plasma blasts, strength, speed: none of them are going to do anything in this submarine situation. Even if he had thought to do things like ram against the death song amber… that had been reinforced to be dragon-proof, and he wouldn’t have been able to break it. HTTYD 2 has some amazing, near-impossible saves, yes, but it also shows us that sometimes reality doesn’t go as we want it to. Stoick had to die to protect Hiccup. There wasn’t a perfect, beat-the-impossible solution to save Hiccup there. And it looks like there isn’t a perfect, beat-the-impossible solution to save Hiccup here.


Now some people might note that Toothless doesn’t seem as frantic as some other people might be watching their best friend drown. This all comes to various personalities having different psychological reactions. For some people, in frightening circumstances, it might not fully click what’s happening until after the event. Many people terrifying events seemingly rather numbly or “calmly”, functioning just fine, until their minds can process what has occured. Then they get hysterical. Other people are very emotionally distraught during a situation but still manage to function halfway well on the outside. Just because Toothless isn’t in hysterics doesn’t mean he isn’t emotionally affected by what’s going on. We see that he’s extremely distressed. It’s just that he’s not frantic-frantic panicking.

It’s also to note that Hiccup and Toothless are seasoned to danger. Toothless is going to be extraordinarily distressed about Hiccup, but he’s been in enough dangerous situations to know not to panic. He’s conditioned to be able to operate efficiently even under enormous, terrible pressure. It’s going to emotionally kill Toothless to go through this situation… and we can see, with his worried eyes, that this is a horrible reality for Toothless to experience. But Toothless isn’t going to get hysterical like some lesser-experienced individuals might so do.

The dragon might be operating more efficiently than some people in tight spots, but we can tell he’s not operating as logically as he would in calmer situations. His distress is emotionally compromising him. Toothless is wasting his strength doing things that obviously won’t free Hiccup. Remember: this dragon yanked on a chain to pull up an object impossibly heavier than he could bear. It’s entirely possible Toothless can’t think of other solutions to this problem with his mind in his compromised, scared state. What we see is a dragon who is doing his best to help Hiccup, is able not to panic, but is still extremely distressed and emotionally compromised. We can see it all through his emotions and his choices.

It’s a very realistic and simultaneously poignant reaction from Toothless here. Once he goes through all the methods he can think of to free Hiccup, he comes to the conclusion that Hiccup might die down here. We start to see Toothless slow down. Toothless is starting to run out of ideas, and he’s starting to realize that his best efforts might be futile. That’s really disheartening, so his emotions cause him to break his rescue attempts, look at Hiccup face-to-face, and mourn. Toothless slows down and stops trying to save Hiccup… because the depression of the situation is weighing him down. It’s the point where Toothless’ thoughts of “I might save Hiccup” change into “I can’t save Hiccup” which lead to the horrible realization… “Hiccup is going to die.”

Boom. Ow.


Now, in addition to Toothless doing so much to try to save his friend, the reason this scene is so powerful is because of the complex emotional reactions that occur when Hiccup and Toothless communicate. What we see in this interaction is that their primary concern is for each other. Hiccup whacks against the death song amber, insisting worriedly, “Go! Save yourself!” He loves Toothless and he wants Toothless alive. But Toothless is worried about Hiccup, not himself.

So when Hiccup tells Toothless to save himself, Toothless doesn’t swim to the surface. Toothless continues to stare at Hiccup, and Hiccup says, in response, “I know, bud. I wouldn’t leave you either.” 

What this means is that Hiccup and Toothless both know… the dragon isn’t leaving. They know that their love for each other is too strong for that to be an option.

Toothless would rather die helping Hiccup to the very end than save himself.

Hiccup realizes Toothless’ intent. And then we see his facial reaction change… from one of fear for his best friend’s life… to sad comfort. He’s touched, albeit emotionally pained, that Toothless loves him so much he’s going to stay at his side.

It is at this point that Hiccup calms. He accepts he won’t make it out alive. Toothless, on the other side, cannot accept this. Depressed and worried, the dragon is going to make the ultimate sacrifice of staying by Hiccup’s side to the very end… even if this means the end to both of them.

The end of the “conversation” occurs when Toothless closes his eyes, reaches out, and nuzzles the amber window. Note that he’s reaching for Hiccup’s hand. Hiccup’s hand is outstretched toward Toothless, and Toothless tries to touch Hiccup’s hand. Recognize the gesture? It’s only sort of similar to this friendship-building moment from long ago…

Yep.

Toothless can’t save Hiccup. He can’t even touch Hiccup. But he demonstrates the trust and love of their friendship as best he can: with the gesture of “touching” nose to palm. It’s the demonstration of ultimate love and trust, the motion Toothless and Hiccup make when they are at their most tender and caring.

My feels.

It’s such an emotional moment. It’s the concept of so-close-and-yet-so-far. We see this done in movies. A New Hope with Obi-Wan’s death. The Force Awakens with Han Solo. Characters are close enough they can watch someone die, but simultaneously too far away (or barricaded) such that they can’t do anything. Hiccup and Toothless are so close. They’re face-to-face. They can read one another’s eyes, communicate, see how the other is emotionally handling this nightmare. But Toothless is separated from Hiccup, unable to touch him and unable to save him. The best Toothless can do is nuzzle the glass in front of Hiccup. In a way, this nuzzle is a way of expressing his loyalty, his love… and his good-byes.


It’s possible that Toothless might have gotten some physical rest at this moment. Then he might have tried some more futile attempts of freeing Hiccup. But we don’t know because it is at this instant the Submaripper appears. 

So. You know what I said about Toothless doing ridiculously, increasingly gutsy things to protect his best friend? This is what we have going here. Toothless is probably running out of air. He has exerted a lot of physical energy trying to budge a cauldron that is too heavy for him. He has shot several plasma blasts and seen they have almost no destructive effect underwater.

And yet when the enormous Submaripper swims toward the cauldron…

…Toothless goes into attack mode. It doesn’t matter Toothless is out of his element. It doesn’t matter Toothless is probably running out of physical strength. It doesn’t matter his plasma blasts mean squat here. It doesn’t matter that he’s so much smaller than the other dragon. When Toothless sees the Submaripper advancing toward Hiccup, his automatic response… is… to… fight.

There’s no logic to this. Hiccup is going to die anyway. Toothless is going to die anyway. Toothless is completely, utterly outmatched.

Doesn’t stop him from trying to defend his best friend.

Toothless fires two plasma blasts immediately, trying to fight off the enormous dragon and keep Hiccup - at least for a few seconds more - safe. This dragon is willing to die underwater with Hiccup. This dragon is even willing to die fighting a seadragon to prevent Hiccup’s soon-to-be-dead body from being touched by a hostile individual.

We can all breathe a sigh of relief (wordplay on breathing intentional) that the Submaripper’s motives were misread by Toothless. Toothless tends to be suspicious first, friendly second… and to be fair, the Submaripper had been aggressive toward the humans up to this point. But instead of attacking Toothless, we see the Submaripper pay debts. Hiccup saved the dragon… so the dragon will now save Hiccup.

Thus Hiccup is rescued.


So yes. I absolutely love this moment, and I consider it one of the standout moments of Race to the Edge. This is a moment that expresses the deep bonds between Hiccup and Toothless in a horrifying, emotional near-death situation. Everything is done so perfectly… the foreshadowing camera angle compared to the climax… the nose-to-palm “touch”… even the music, which is a variation on the theme that happens whenever Toothless is in grave danger (heard, for instance, at the end of the Kill Ring). What we see here is a friend desperate to save a friend… a friend willing to die next to his friend… a friend willing to sacrifice himself for a friend…

It’s the very essence of the loving bond between dragon and rider.

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  2. Legend Of The Boneknapper Dragon (Short)
  3. Gift Of The Night Fury (Short)
  4. Book Of Dragons (Short)
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  6. Sports - Medal Ceremony
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  10. Training - Deadly Nadder
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  19. Animal House (R.O.B)
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  21. In Dragons We Trust (R.O.B)
  22. Alvin And The Outcasts (R.O.B)
  23. How To Pick Your Dragon (R.O.B)
  24. Portrait Of Hiccup As A Buff Man (R.O.B)
  25. Dragon Flower (R.O.B)
  26. Heather Report Part 1 (R.O.B)
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  33. Breakneck Bog (R.O.B)
  34. Gem Of A Different Colour (R.O.B)
  35. We Are Family Part One (R.O.B)
  36. We Are Family Part Two (R.O.B)
  37. Live And Let Fly (D.O.B)
  38. The Iron Gronckle (D.O.B)
  39. The Night And The Fury (D.O.B) 
  40. Tunnel Vision (D.O.B)
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  43. Worst In Show (D.O.B)
  44. Appetite For Destruction (D.O.B)
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  53. Smoke Gets In Your Eyes (D.O.B)
  54. Bing, Bam, Boom (D.O.B)
  55. Cast Out Part 1 (D.O.B)
  56. Cast Out Part 2 (D.O.B)
  57. Dragon Eye Of The Beholder Part 1 (RTTE S1)
  58. Dragon Eye Of The Beholder Part 2 (RTTE S1)
  59. Imperfect Harmony (RTTE S1)
  60. When Darkness Falls (RTTE S1)
  61. Big Man On Berk (RTTE S1)
  62. Gone Gustav Gone (RTTE S1)
  63. Reign Of Fireworms (RTTE S1)
  64. Crushing It (RTTE S1)
  65. Quake, Rattle And Roll (RTTE S1)
  66. Have Dragon Will Travel Part 1 (RTTE S1)
  67. Have Dragon Will Travel Part 2 (RTTE S1)
  68. The Next Big Sting (RTTE S1)
  69. Total Nightmare (RTTE S1)
  70. Team Astrid (RTTE S2)
  71. Night Of The Hunters Part 1 (RTTE S2)
  72. Night Of The Hunters Part 2 (RTTE S2)
  73. Bad Moon Rising (RTTE S2)
  74. Snotlout Gets The Axe (RTTE S2)
  75. The Zippleback Experience (RTTE S2)
  76. Snow Way Out (RTTE S2)
  77. Edge Of Disaster Part 1 (RTTE S2)
  78. Edge Of Disaster Part 2 (RTTE S2)
  79. Shock And Awe (RTTE S2)
  80. A Time To Skrill (RTTE S2)
  81. Maces And Talons Part 1 (RTTE S2)
  82. Maces And Talons Part 2 (RTTE S2)
  83. Enemy Of My Enemy (RTTE S3)
  84. Crash Course (RTTE S3)
  85. Follow The Leader (RTTE S3)
  86. Turn And Burn (RTTE S3)
  87. Buffalord Soldier (RTTE S3)
  88. A Grim Retreat (RTTE S3)
  89. To Heather Or Not To Heather (RTTE S3)
  90. Stryke Out (RTTE S3)
  91. Tone Death (RTTE S3)
  92. Between A Rock And A Hard Place (RTTE S3)
  93. Family On The Edge (RTTE S3)
  94. Last Auction Heroes (RTTE S3)
  95. Defenders Of The Wing Part 1 (RTTE S3)
  96. Defenders Of The Wing Part 2 (Season 4)
  97. TBA (RTTE S4)
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  136. Dawn of the Dragon Racers (Short)
  137.  How To Train Your Dragon 2
  138. . How To Train Your Dragon 3


Wow!!! how lucky are we to have so many parts to this franchise!!! We will have 3 Movies, 4 Short films, 12 short clips and 118 episodes!!!

 That is a total of 138 parts to HTTYD!!!! 

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Guy Talk, a how to train your dragon fanfic | FanFiction
Astrid and Heather have frequent girl talks about Hiccup and Fishlegs... Meanwhile, Hiccup and Fishlegs have a guy talk... about Astrid and Heather. One-shot.

Guy Talk

Hiccup adjusted his Deathsong amber goggles. “Alright, Toothless, give me a low flame…”

The Night Fury obeyed his Rider, shooting out a small blast at the metal below. Hiccup grinned at his dragon, then affectionately rubbed his head once he had finished. “Thanks, bud… now, I just need to turn it over so you can get the other side of this axe…” Using a pair of prongs, Hiccup carefully flipped the weapon he was forming over so Toothless could heat the metal for him. As soon as it was ready, Toothless opened his mouth to fire, but he was interrupted by the door to the forge room opening.

Hiccup looked up from his work and removed his goggles to see who had entered. He smiled when he saw it was his friend, Fishlegs. “Hey, Fishlegs!” he greeted.

“Hello, Hiccup,” Fishlegs replied, coming up to the table of the forge. “What are you working on?”

Hiccup waved his hand in a dismissal manner. “Oh, nothing important. Just this and that…”

Fishlegs smirked. “Oh, please. Everything you work on is important.”

Chuckling, Hiccup nodded. “I guess so… well… if you must know, I’m just working on a weapon… an axe, to be precise… told you it was nothing too special…” His fingers drummed against his legs.

“Uh-huh.” Fishlegs stroked the wood of the table absentmindedly. “If you don’t mind me asking… why?”

Hiccup, looking flustered, scratched the back of his head, signifying he was self-conscious of the answer. “Well… I was just making it for Astrid. Just a spare axe for her in case she needed an extra… told you it was nothing important. Now, what are you doing here?”

“Oh,” said Fishlegs. “Meatlug and I were also working on a special project, so I was going to work on it now. Meatlug’s outside waiting. We were going to work in here, but seeing as you and Toothless are busy working at the moment, we can wait.” He began to walk away towards the door, but Hiccup reached out and stopped him.

“No, no. Toothless and I can make room for our forge buddies. Can’t we, bud?” he asked his dragon, who warbled in agreement. Fishlegs smiled and murmured a thanks before dashing out and letting Meatlug in. Soon, the boys were all set up on their projects and working in a comfortable silence.

“So,” Fishlegs said casually after a bit. “When are you going to give the axe to Astrid?”

Hiccup gave his friend a strange look. “…when it’s finished? I don’t know.”

Fishlegs nodded. “Right, right…” For a moment, he continued to work on his device, but then glanced back at the brunette. “…so, why, again, are you making it for her now?”

“Because she may need a spare.”

“…mhm…” Fishlegs stole a glimpse at Hiccup. “Hey, Hiccup… are you and Astrid… well… are you guys…” His shoulders deflated a little as he gave up in trying to be discreet. “…together?”

Hiccup dropped his prongs on the table in surprise. “Wha- what? Together? N-no! Why- why would you think that? We’re just friends. Okay, in the friend zone. Nothing more.” His brow furrowed. “…why do you ask…?”

Fishlegs shrugged. “Just, lately, it’s just kind of seemed… a little… you guys seem a bit closer than before… I was just wondering if something happened and I missed it.”

“Well, no! Nothing- nothing happened.” Hiccup was getting flustered again, his cheeks flaming up and hands playing with the fabric of his shirt. “Was there ever… was there ever even a thing? Did I miss something?”

“No, no… I was just thinking how, you know, you and Astrid had… had kissed a couple of times before,” Fishlegs said, innocently feeding Meatlug another rock.

“We were just kids, Fishlegs,” Hiccup murmured, straightening his goggles. “We didn’t really- really know about relationships and stuff then. Those were childhood k-kisses. Now… we’ve all grown up, and are growing up, some faster than others. And plus…” He sighed. “Astrid doesn’t seem to even want to be in a relationship. We need to try and get the Dragon Eye back, defeat Viggo, Ryker, and the Hunters… a heavy load. We don’t have time to think about all of… that other stuff…”

Fishlegs nodded while motioning for Meatlug to spew lava for his project. “True… but there’s only so much time we have… sometimes we don’t even know if we’re going to see the next sunrise… we’ve all faced death so many times.”

Hiccup inclined his head solemnly. “I know, I know… too many brushes with death to count… and Astrid… she keeps on getting into danger, whether it’s getting knocked off Stormfly, or having a deadly plague… one time… one time it may go too far to help… and I just don’t know if I could bear it if she was…” He snapped back to reality. “Wait… Fishlegs… why- why are we even talking about this?”

Fishlegs’ cheeks heated, and he stroked Meatlug’s head uncomfortably. “Um… well, Hiccup… if I tell you something… do you promise not to laugh?”

Hiccup removed his goggles and set them down. “Have I ever?” he grinned.

“Sometimes,” Fishlegs said, unamused.

Hiccup’s smile faded. “Well, anyways- yes…” He nodded. “I promise. Now, what’s going on?”

Fishlegs swallowed nervously as he gestured to his work. “What I’m making… well… I’m making something for Heather… but in a non-romantic-just-neighborly way, though…” Hiccup was covering his mouth to hide a giggle, and almost was doubling over. “Hey! You said you wouldn’t laugh,” Fishlegs accused, sulking.

Hiccup tried to calm himself, but he still wore a faint smile. “I’m not,” he said, but it didn’t even convince himself. “Look, Fishlegs… Heather’s a great girl, and I think she likes you… in a purely non-romantic-just-neighborly way.” He smirked, crossing his arms. “You’re one of my best friends, Fishlegs. I wouldn’t lie to you. If you want to make something for her… go for it. I won’t judge. And if I want to give Astrid an axe,” he continued, shooting a look at the husky boy. “…then I can. Without you making fun of me.”

Fishlegs began to laugh. “Hey, I’m not… but I suspect the axe will be given in a purely non-romantic-just-neighborly way.” Hiccup glared playfully, but joined in chuckling a second later. The two both laughed for awhile, until Fishlegs swiped his eyes and began to speak.

“Sorry, Hiccup, about all those questions… it’s just… it’s like you said before. We’re all… growing up. It was bound to happen sometime, and now that we all have our own place… I think it is. And I just thought, since you and Astrid were kind-of-sort-of a thing a few years back, that you might know a couple of things… about- about… well… girls.”

Hiccup relaxed at last. “Oh. Okay. Well, that’s a relief, I thought you were trying to play matchmaker for Astrid and I… heheh… well, I, um… I don’t really know too much on relationships, though, as the whole village sort of hated my until I killed the Red Death.” Toothless snorted indignantly, and Hiccup, smiling, scratched the Night Fury’s neck. “Sorry. We killed the Red Death. And those kisses… they were really all Astrid. I was too nervous to make a move. Girls… well, they can punch hard, so don’t insult them. Or aggravate. Or really do anything to them. Just… smile and nod? They're… they’re pretty complicated, from what I’ve gathered, one minute all happy, and the next socking my shoulder… well, I guess that’s just Astrid, but still… um, er…” He scratched his head again. “Is it just me, or is this sort of awkward to talk about?”

Fishlegs chortled. “Gods, yeah, this is really awkward to talk about.” The two friends laughed heartily together, and even the dragons joined in with their croons. “But, thanks, Hiccup,” Fishlegs said after they had stopped chuckling. “Sorry for bringing up you and Astrid… it’s none of my business, really…”

“Hey, it’s okay,” Hiccup assured. “It's… it’s kind of been on my chest for awhile now. I’ve never really brought up the subject, and never planned to. I just don’t really know if… if…” He suddenly seemed shy. “…do you think that Astrid even likes me back?”

The husky boy smiled. “Of course she does, Hiccup. You’re one of her idols.”

Hiccup shoved Fishlegs lightly. “You know that’s not what I meant.”

“Then what?” Fishlegs broke into a teasing grin. “What do you mean? How do you mean ‘she likes you’?”

Hiccup groaned, burying his head in his hands. “Fishhlleeeeggssss… I thought you were on my side in this…”

“I am!” said Fishlegs. “It’s not my fault that I don’t understand what you meant by, 'does she like me back?’. I’m just asking you to make it more clear for me, your poor, simple friend. It’s not that difficult, Hiccup…”

The brunette moaned again, but removed his hands from his face. “Fine… I… I just… do you… doyouthinkAstridlikesmelikeinarelationshipway?”

There was a beat of silence.

Fishlegs blinked. “What?”

Hiccup sighed mournfully. “Do. You. Think. That. Astrid. Likes. Me… in a… relationship way…?” He mumbled the last part, but Fishlegs still heard. He beamed as if that was the very thing he had been waiting to hear all day.

“Hiccup,” he said. “You know I’m terrible at relationships… I’m horrible at socializing, and expressing my feelings… but I do listen. I do watch. And Astrid… you don’t know how many times I’ve caught her looking at you… and not in a purely non-romantic-just-neighborly way.”

Hiccup was too busy burning up to return the teasing.

“Alright…,” Hiccup managed after a moment. “Um. Thanks.”

Fishlegs was growing just as awkward. “Sure…”

Embarrassed, the friends looked away from each other.

“So…,” said Hiccup at last. “What are you making for Heather?”

Fishlegs turned back to Meatlug and patted his dragon. He glanced at his project. “Oh. Well, I was making a sort of belt for her that can hold multiple weapons… knives, daggers, axes, swords… a multi-tool-belt of sorts. Except, instead of making a leather band, I’m trying to use Gronckle Iron, though it’s pretty tough to make the iron flexible… Meatlug and I are trying out different things to see if they work.” He shrugged. “Trial and error.”

Hiccup nodded, impressed. “Clever. Well, if you need any of me and Toothless’s help, we’re here for you.”

“Thanks,” Fishlegs smiled. “Same for me and Meatlug, if you need any Gronckle Iron.”

“I may take you up on that, maybe as an outer coating for the axe,” Hiccup replied. “And if you decide to make more than one of those tool-belt things, let me know. It could be handy in the forge for carrying supplies, so I may buy one from you.”

“Buy?” Fishlegs looked surprised. “Please. You’d get the Friend-of-Fishlegs discount.”

Hiccup laughed. “Sounds good. Well… you know… good man talk.” He pounded his chest in emphasis.

“Yeah.” Fishlegs copied him. “Man talk.”

“Man talk, yeah…”

They nodded at each other for a moment, set their jaws, then went back to working on their projects for Heather and Astrid, helping each other when they needed assistance, and just plain geeking out. If Snotlout was there, he would be making fun of them to no end.

Hours later, the boys were finished with their gifts. Fishlegs and Hiccup had cracked getting the Gronckle Iron to be flexible by mixing some different chemicals and other more softer metals together. Meanwhile, Meatlug spewed a coating of Gronckle Iron over Hiccup’s axe, so it was stronger and lighter than before, though also had the balance Astrid liked. After the friends had added their finishing touches (Hiccup engraved an “A” in the axe’s handle, and Fishlegs an artistic design on the belt he thought Heather might like), they cleaned up their workspace, then left to go give their gifts to their girls.

And if Hiccup had learned one thing from making that axe… well, it was that guy talk had paid off.

anonymous asked:

35 or 100

A/N: Hey! :) Thanks for the request! I went with 100- I hope you enjoy it! I had fun writing it. <3

Prompt #100. “You’re worth way more than you think.” 


He’d been holed up in the clubhouse for much too long, in her opinion. While the other riders had dinner, he remained indoors with Toothless. Astrid checked up on him in order to increase the chances of him actually eating something that evening, only to find him still engrossed with sheets upon sheets of parchment- but most of all, the Maces and Talons board.

She really, really hated Viggo.

Astrid later (temporarily) left him, knowing that once Hiccup’s mind was set on something, even Odin himself would struggle in prying his attention away from whatever it was.

Now, after returning to the base from her evening patrol and setting Stormfly up for the night, she paid the Haddock another visit. Astrid wasn’t very pleased to learn that he not only hadn’t touched the food she brought him in the hours that she had gone…

…And she especially wasn’t pleased to see him anxiously tapping his foot and drumming his stick of charcoal against a marked up piece of paper. 

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anonymous asked:

Apparently a new RTTE trailer shows dragon winged people. Thoughts on this?

I was totally waiting for this ask to enter my inbox heeheehee.

My thoughts are mostly “Sure, why not?” with a bunch of XD XD XD XD’s after the cheeky question. I imagine there are going to be a number of individuals who feel hesitant about it for various reasons, but me, hey! I’m not going to judge it before I see it! I think it could be fun! FLYING DRAGON WARRIOR WOMEN. I mean, when you say it like that, doesn’t that sound major cool?

I am rather excited about seeing it’s women who are gliding on these wings. It’s something that should be a minor detail, but given as how ROB, DOB, and RTTE haven’t shown many women, it’s become a refreshing observation to me now. As I’ve commented in seasons past, the television show hasn’t given us many background (or foreground) female butt-kickers to enjoy on screen. It looks like these goddesses warriors of the sky are going to tip the balance some in favor of giving me badass ladies as I’ve wanted for years. We’re not seeing painfully stereotypical defenseless women here in this screenshot. THese are women in POWERFUL ARMOR and women doing some AMAZINGLY GUTSY STUNTS up in the sky. Not just anyone goes up in the sky like that. These women are specialists, these women are skilled, these women are paving out new opportunities!

Not everything about their garb is technically “practical” given as they’re wearing full plated metal armor while gliding in the sky - something that would weigh them down. But if they’re gliding shortish distances, maybe they can get away with the armor (regardless, this is fantasy, so I’d rather see badass heavily armored ladies than skimpy bikinis, heehhhhh). And if they’re gliding in to do heavy fighting, they’ll need armor to protect themselves! If it’s Gronckle iron or some other light alloy, we could get some explaining power in there, too. There’s also something to say about how their hair is very practical worn - buns, tied back, etc. - and I also appreciate that women, who are statistically a little lighter and smaller than men, are the ones who are gliding, where larger size could possibly be a disadvantage.

I’m rather curious about who these women are. Their armor is yet again a distinct style, though if I have to compare it to anyone’s armor, I’d say it’s the closest to Heather’s. Given as Heather grew up in a random unnamed Viking tribe, I don’t imagine these people came from Heather’s foster family group. But Heather also did a bit of traveling in her years, would have seen a variety of armor aesthetic styles, and… well… basically… who knows? The appearance similarities could be (and likely are) entirely incidental.

Are they protagonists who side with Hiccup? Given the armor differences, I don’t think they’re Defenders of the Wing coming to Hiccup’s aid. They have to be someone new. Are they the antagonists mentioned in pre-S5 summaries? Their facial expressions don’t “suggest” antagonists, but who knows? Either way, I’m game for flocks of power women in armor doing dramatic stunts in the skies.

To respond to some qualms I imagine individuals might have, since I know lots of people are going to react to this screencap with “ehhh” or “please no”:

First, there’s nothing about people gliding on dragon wings that actually takes away from Hiccup’s ingenious gliding device from HTTYD 2, which is where I think most people might have an “objection.” Hiccup’s development of gliding wings is already well in progress by RTTE; the basic mechanism of jumping off a dragon and gliding on his own is already established, and he just needs to do some tweaking to get his flight suit the way it is by the second movie. His flight suit is nothing like the gliders that the people in the screenshot have; the flying squirrel-like contraption that can be released directly from his clothing and used as gliding fabric is a wholly new, inventive, and Hiccup-esque idea that no one else has.

I’m guessing the other common objection other individuals might have is that it seems “unrealistic” or too much of a “copy” of what we see Hiccup invents. For me, neither of those things are a concern. Again, I feel that the flying squirrel-like clothing Hiccup invents is nothing like what I’m seeing in the screencap, and besides, the fact Hiccup developed it independently means that he’s still as inventive as ever. The fact that other people groups can be inventive and come up with novel ideas on their own is… well… it’s not that surprising, given as the Barbaric Archipelago is exploding in dragons. With the large number of small, semi-isolated people groups across the region, it’s not surprising they’ve all come up with their own unique ways of adapting their culture to dragons, be it with religious reverence, war-like vengeance, dragon riding, dragon traps, dragon hunting, wares crafted from dragon parts, live dragon fighting matches, dragon architecture, dragon-inspired swords, dragon-inspired gliders, or even, as we see in “The Serpent’s Heir,” living on dragons. To me it’s just good-natured fun to imagine how different people groups, civilizations, militias, etc. might look at the dragon and become inspired by them. So again… why not? More people than Hiccup have a right to be inventive! Even in the books, there are people like Norbert who are more inventive than Hiccup.

There’s nothing that concerns me too much about “realism” so long as the story makes “sense enough.” We are watching a television show where non-Viking-like Vikings are riding giant firebreathing (or ice breathing or acid-spitting or…) winged lizards. And for what it’s worth, the book series has always been charmingly less realistic than the movies… full of anachronisms like steamboats and clashes with the somehow-contemporary Roman Empire. There’s even a scene where thousands of insect-sized dragons cover Hiccup like a suit of armor and fly Hiccup into the air so our protagonist can pretend to be Thor God of Thunder. Another time, Alvin the Treacherous survives falling into the lava of a freaking volcano because he gets trapped in a gas bubble. Nothing realistic about it, but still whimsical, still fun, still good-natured, and still captures the fun spirit of a world with Vikings and dragons.

One invention by one people group in a television show written for largely juvenile audiences… isn’t going to upset me or something. It’s not like we’re depicting something really racist or misogynistic or horrendous that would get me upset for a reason. I’m totally chill with this. Television shows and movies and stories are sometimes wacky, but they’re all written to be adventuresome, creative, storytelling fun. And for people who might say “Well doesn’t this take away from the quality of the movies?” ….friendly newsflash, a television show adaptation from a major movie is always “not-as-good” as the movie itself. Doesn’t mean it can’t be fun! I prefer to enjoy my recreational television and find fun positives about it rather than get caught up on minor details that really aren’t that important to my health, life, future, and well-being. ;)

I say don’t dismiss it before you see it! And you don’t have to like everything about a television show. That’s totally chill. I don’t like everything about everything myself. XD I just ask you not to crap on things others might enjoy. :) Fandoms shouldn’t be groupthink where we’re all forced to like the same things. We’re allowed to like something and we’re allowed to not like something and we’re allowed to express what we feel regardless because our personal emotions are legitimate and real. I do think that whining hurts the fandom community and fandom temperament, though, so I personally recommend people talking about things they don’t like with constructive criticism. 

But anyway!

Sorry about pointing out potential negative fandom dynamics. <3 You all are awesome and I’m happy to be in the HTTYD community with ya’ll.

I personally am fine with this and am interested to see what the writers do with these flying dragon warrior ladies! To reiterate on a more positive front…

1). Female warriors taking the front in RTTE at last!

2). Their armor is major cool looking and has a nice aesthetic to it.

3). This is a bunch of ladies in armor flying on dragon wings! I mean, when you actually think about that, isn’t that sort of cool? Flying dragon warrior ladies?!! I mean, what’s not to like about any of those words in that phrase - “flying dragon warrior ladies”? XD XD XD

thedragonmissionary  asked:

could you pair the similarities between the riders and dragons of the gang, valka, stoick...??? an example would be like hiccup and toothless bla bla bla then snotlout and hookfang then bla bla bla explanation and etc. thanks!!!!

Yes! I would love to do this! The similarities between dragon and rider excite me to tears because they are all completely perfect for each other.

Hiccup and Toothless

Let’s face it. This duo would need a novel to cover all their similarities. Possibly three novels.

Hiccup and Toothless are probably the most notably similar in terms of their life stories. They parallel one another even before they meet. Hiccup and Toothless both are social outcasts and peculiarities for their respective species (a non-dragon fighting Viking and the single seen Night Fury), then find one another and form a bond with an enemy they had good reason to kill. They try to kill each other, in fact, over the course of their relationship with one another - Hiccup by holding a knife up to Toothless and Toothless by shooting a plasma blast. Hiccup and Toothless both give each other their worst physical injury; there is no small similarity between a missing left leg and a missing tail fin. Yet at the same time, they fill each others’ lives and find happiness.

And I am not even done. Nowhere close. Both Hiccup and Toothless are without family members. Toothless saves Hiccup falling; Hiccup saves Toothless falling. Hiccup saves Toothless from drowning in water; Toothless saves Hiccup from suffocating in ice. Hiccup and Toothless grow to become the chief and alpha of their tribe, surprisingly young leaders for who they are, but filling in gaps from the war deaths of their predecessors. Their leadership is foreshadowed before they come to this point; Toothless takes intelligent initiative far more than any of the other dragons, and Hiccup’s voice is the most frequent to suggest ideas in the Dragon Academy, and almost always heeded.

Personality-wise, Hiccup and Toothless certainly are not the same individual, but they do contain notable parallels. Hiccup and Toothless are both top notch at their skills, seen especially in the television series. Toothless is the fastest dragon and most intelligent, just like Hiccup is an enviable dragon rider and very intelligent in his own right. They work together very well, both proficient at fighting, and thus incredible to watch fly together. They both are very resourceful with their environment; Toothless’ wide use of plasma blasts from moving objects to shooting down obstacles to echolocation is just as handy a toolbox as Hiccup’s creative construction of elements in the forge.

And this is the tip of the iceberg.

Snotlout and Hookfang

Hookfang is the next thing to Snotlout in human form. Again, there are personality differences, but this amazing dysfunctional pair certainly share a lot in common.

Design-wise, both Snotlout and Hookfang are the most prototypical of their kind. Snotlout is the meaty, buff, weapons-centered Viking celebrated on Berk in the early days. Likewise, Hookfang has the most standard of the dragon designs, as even the art book itself acknowledges.

But there’s more than just design at here. To cite the first art book, “the Monstrous Nightmare is… considered the most violent, stubborn, and tenacious. In battle, it’s the first to arrive and the last to leave.”

Are we SURE we are not talking about Snotlout here? He is a rather stubborn, violent, and tenacious individual himself, and undoubtedly is the sort of individual who would hold on fighting in battle beyond reason. He considers himself a warrior and at least tries to show that off. “Thawfest” shows he has the great physical capability that the other Vikings cannot match just like Hookfang is a Monstrous Nightmare, which only the best Vikings fought back in Berk’s old war days.

The thing is, both Snotlout and Hookfang screw up more often than they successfully exhibit their great warrior skills. Hookfang will make mistakes all the time, such as making situations worse when trying to rescue Snotlout from the Changewings in “We Are Family Part 1” or burning up the dummies he is supposed to be recognizing in both “Thawfest” and “Best in Show.” Snotlout likewise frequently fumbles and finds himself missing his throw when trying to hit a Nadder in HTTYD 1, among other such incidences. Let’s think of all the times his rump has been roasted by his own dragon.

Snotlout and Hookfang’s temperament similarities still keep on going. They are not good at demonstrating affection. Snotlout puffs up himself and tries to hide when he cries, even acting outwardly incapable of understanding the concept of a broken heart. Hookfang, on his own part, is more likely to walk away with a flick of his tail than give his rider a cuddle. And they always treat each other with that rough dysfunctionality, Snotlout shouting at his stupid stubborn dragon to do something, his dragon unyieldingly flying away and paying no heed to the Viking.

Yet despite this, both are very much capable of affection. “Viking for Hire” shows Hookfang excitedly caressing the Jorgensen boy with his snout, and “Race to Fireworm Island” is all about how much boy and dragon are willing to do for one another. That’s the part where Snotlout returns Hookfang’s “hug”.

These two are completely one hundred percent made for each other. Snotlout’s dragon in the books might be a pretentious female dragon named Fireworm, but it’s simple canon that he takes a Monstrous Nightmare. And the Monstrous Nightmare in both books and movies is considered to be a dragon of high status. It’s the hardest to fight in the movies and it’s the hunting dragon reserved for the chief in the books. And Snotlout and Hookfang are the prototype Vikings until Hiccup and Toothless swoop in and unintentionally take over the spotlight themselves.

Astrid and Stormfly

The Deadly Nadder is a nimble, dexterous dragon, just like Astrid is. It is very intelligent, just like Astrid is. It also is thorny, just like Astrid is. I mean, come on. Look at those designs. Stormfly and Astrid both have spikes all over them. The early sketches shown in the art book show Astrid was always intended to hop onto a Deadly Nadder, and thus their physical designs and abilities parallel each other nicely.

I think it goes deeper than that, though, based upon the description of the Nadder in the art book. “This skilled flier has an explosive temper that makes it a daunting airborne opponent but if you stand right in front of its nose you’ll be in its blind spot and it won’t be able to see you” (p. 40).

I feel this is a good characterization of Astrid, too. She has her own blindspots regarding Hiccup and the dragons within the first half of HTTYD 1, not to mention she is nothing short of a short-tempered gymnast, too. And despite the frightening temperament of both, Astrid and Stormfly alike are actually rather sweet and affectionate individuals.

Ruffnut and Tuffnut and Barf and Belch

Barf and Belch are two separate heads but connected together as one dragon, just as Ruffnut and Tuffnut are two individuals but “stuck with each other since birth”. The two twins and the double Zippleback heads might appear the same at first look, too, but each has their own uniqueness. Ruffnut and Tuffnut have distinct personality differences just like Barf expels green gas while Belch lights it. But all those heads can make for extreme dysfunction at times, too, especially since not one of those heads in the entire crowd is incredibly bright. Don’t get me wrong - all of them DO have intelligence and demonstrate it well - but they also have tendencies to overlook obvious details.

Fishlegs and Meatlug

Fishlegs originally was supposed to ride the Hideous Zippleback rather than a Gronckle in the movies, more closely paralleling the three-headed dragon book!Fishlegs befriends. However, this does not mean Fishlegs and Meatlug are unsuited for one another. On the contrary, I find this one of the pairs with the most obvious chemistry, and not just because they are always physically demonstrating their affection to each other.

Fishlegs and Meatlug have both been designed to be husky, the Gronckle taking on the appearance of “boulders” and Fishleg’s shape being all about squares. I feel like they belong in those photsets of owners that look too much like their pets. Beyond that, both of these characters are a “gem of a different color,” meant to be unique and divergent from the others. Fishlegs is the oddball dragon geek of the bunch, while Meatlug is “the most atypical-looking dragon in the line-up” (p. 36). And they both struggle with being unappreciated by the others for their actually very impressive skills. Meatlug might be the slowest flier and Fishlegs not much competition in the Dragon Training ring, but both have abilities that the other dragons and riders cannot at all do.

Personality-wise, Fishlegs and Meatlug are the sweethearts of the human and dragon worlds, respectively. They are also the most timid, most reluctant to enter danger, and most friendly. Odin, they have even developed the same habits. “The Iron Gronckle” shows the two of them stress eating together to handle their similar emotions of feeling unwanted by the rest of the gang.

Stoick and Skullcrusher

Enormous, imposing, stoic giants these two are. Not much is seen of Skullcrusher, but he has that same larger-than-life, thick, intimidating appearance and presence that his rider has. However, at the same time, that does not mean either are without heart. We see Stoick act in full love at the end of HTTYD 2, and Skullcrusher himself is shown to be a friendly dragon himself when he shoves his nose toward Eret and sniffs the ex-dragon trapper curiously.

I would actually talk more about Stoick and Thornado’s similarities because we know about that relationship in greater detail. I touch on their endearingly parallel personalities a bit here.

Valka and Cloudjumper

Both Valka and her dragon are simultaneously regal and quirky. For Valka is an admirable queen, a highly-skilled dragon vigilante who deserves respect. But she is very cumbersome around people, to, even walking around on all fours at one point. Cloudjumper as well holds himself up with a prideful posture, yet does more than his dumb share of activities - especially around Toothless. Beyond that, both Valka and Cloudjumper are very intelligent and imposing individuals to encounter.

And both are unique in a crowd. Just like Hiccup and Toothless are separated off with Hiccup being an outcast and Toothless the only Night Fury, so also are Valka the outcasted Viking woman and the only Stormcutter seen onscreen. 

Lastly, design-wise, you can see they are similar. Valka intentionally made her armor to look like a dragon, and the spikes and flares on places like her boots mirror the patterns of Cloudjumper.

Gobber and Grump

I really just want to say “These lovable lugs” and type up a bunch of hearts <3 <3 <3 and leave it at that.

proxy1983  asked:

Give each HTTYD member of hiccups gang (including hiccup) a 'most-likely-to -accidentally...' award.

OH MY THOR I LOVE THIS QUESTION!

I would be really entertained to see what other “most-likely-to-accidentally” awards people would give these dragon riders! Feel free to reblog with your own ideas!

SNOTLOUT: MOST LIKELY TO ACCIDENTALLY SET HIMSELF ON FIRE

Because how often has this already happened with him and Hookfang?

And if we want to list something he hasn’t done, it’ll probably be something like, “MOST LIKELY TO BURN DOWN DRAGON’S EDGE” or “MOST LIKELY TO BURN DOWN BERK.” Basically, anything involving fire.

ASTRID: MOST LIKELY TO ACCIDENTALLY KNOCK OUT A BEWILDERBEAST

Astrid is such an incredible, strong, butt-kicking warrior that she could probably accidentally knock a Bewilderbeast unconscious by yawning.

RUFFNUT: MOST LIKELY TO ACCIDENTALLY START A RIOT

She loves howling, she loves screaming, she loves kicking and punching, she loves setting things afire. Even if she just wants to stoke people for a sports game, she’s got it in her to accidentally start a major-time riot.

TUFFNUT: MOST LIKELY TO ACCIDENTALLY INVENT TIME TRAVEL

Albeit his actions are unconventional and his personality is eccentric, Tuffnut is an incredibly intelligent individual. He also runs into a lot of bizarre accidents and seems to magically discover or come across marvelous revelations. It would be just like him to trip on a rock and invent time travel.

FISHLEGS: MOST LIKELY TO ACCIDENTALLY DISCOVER KRYPTONITE

I mean, Gronckle Iron was something that Fishlegs and Meatlug accidentally discovered. Fishlegs and Meatlug could easily discover something like Kryptonite with their combined love of geology.

HICCUP: MOST LIKELY TO ACCIDENTALLY GET HIMSELF INJURED / KILLED

Stoick: Be safe, Hiccup.
Hiccup: When am I not safe? Uhhh… don’t answer that.

This kid ran around Berk trying to kill dragons when he couldn’t even pick up a hammer, decided it was a good idea to release a dragon he had just injured, trained a dragon, fell off the now-flightless dragon and plummeted to the earth countless times, fought a mountain-sized dragon by himself that the entire Berk army could not defeat, crashed numerous times on his dragon, kept choosing to interact with dragons even when they are not friendly and attacking him, intentionally stepped off a cliff while his dragon was fighting another dragon, got kidnapped by Alvin the Treacherous twice, got kidnapped by Dagur the Deranged once, got kidnapped by Captain Fiske once, fought enemies countless times oftentimes walking right into situations he did not need to, decided to walk up to the mighty warlord Drago essentially unarmed, decided to go to his now-possessed dragon and try to touch its snout… uhhhh we could literally keep going and going and going and going and going.

Hiccup is never ever ever ever safe. His other friends usually get into trouble because they’re following Hiccup’s lead. I have no idea how Hiccup survived to the age of twenty.

HEATHER: MOST LIKELY TO ACCIDENTALLY START A WAR

There is so much drama going on in her life, that all she has to do is flick her hair wrong and the Berserkers or dragon hunters or dagur will be tumbling into some random island. The fact Heather has been a vigilante stealing boats started major tensions with the Hooligans and Berserkers, and the fact she is royalty to a tribe that now has no leader… things could get interesting simply by her existing in the area.

anonymous asked:

Hey, I know this is kind of a random ask, but can you do an analysis on Astrid's good points? There's been a lot of hate surrounding her lately, especially in terms of Hiccstrid, and I don't know, I would just like to see some positive things about her character, because I know those things exist, even if other people can't see it. :(

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO LET’S GIVE SOME POSITIVE TALK ABOUT ASTRID YO! *boogies* I like the way you think!

Astrid is a human being, and like all human beings, full of strengths and weaknesses. It is true that Astrid contains a number of flaws to her character - just like Hiccup does, and Stoick, and Ruffnut, and Gobber, and everyone else in How to Train Your Dragon. She also has some incredibly admirable strengths. There are a number of striking positive qualities I notice about her:

  • She is an extraordinarily gifted athlete
  • She is an incredibly hard and dedicated worker who never gives up
  • She is intelligent and well-studied
  • She is a very talented dragon trainer
  • She is a very empathetic and encouraging individual
  • She is a good follower and model citizen

Astrid the Athlete

One of the most well-recognized traits Astrid has is of being a warrior and an athlete. This reputation is incredibly well-deserved! I almost don’t need to talk about this skillset… I can just plop a few gifs in here, smile, and say, “Yeah, that’s right. She’s amazing.”

Just watch that gif above a few times. In about two and a half seconds, Astrid bends over backwards in a sliding limbo move to dodge Stormfly’s tail, front handsprings over a barrel, somersaults forward, grabs a shield, and holds it up before she can be shot by spines. She does that in less than three seconds. That is completely out of this world and demonstrates the full extent of Astrid’s dexterous, quick-footed, gymnast-like athleticism. How can she react so quickly? It’s like she has to predict where Stormfly’s spines are going to land!

This sort of talent does not develop overnight. It requires extensive training and hard discipline over the course of many, many years. It requires incredible strength and quick, practiced coordination. In order to become this athletic of a fighter, Astrid would have had to be doing this since she was little more than a toddler. By the time Astrid is a teenager in the first How to Train Your Dragon movie, she probably has already been diligently practicing her moves for a decade. None of the other youths come even close to this amount of responsible dedication or extensive training.

Astrid is in fact leaps and strides more skillful than any of the strong, fit adults we have ever watched in How to Train Your Dragon. No one else comes close to matching her speed, quick wits, flexibility, and gymnast-like tumbles. And her skills include both strong offensive attacks and nimble-footed defense, as well as training in archery, the axe, hand-to-hand combat/wrestling, and I imagine even the sword. The way she handles the sword in “Gronckle Iron” at least indicates she knows what a good blade should feel like… and how to use it.

We really cannot appreciate her enough. I know we watch so many action movies in which women and men are skillful fighters, yet Astrid’s gifts are above and beyond what 97% of the human population could accomplish.

And she never lets herself slack off. She is an incredible stuntswoman in her teenaged years, and even by the time of How to Train Your Dragon 2, she can hop and flip her way through any obstacle. I marvel over her extreme athleticism during the dragon racing scene here.

Like, oh my Odin, who just decides to do flips on a moving dragon? These guys are probably flying forty miles an hour hundreds of feet in the air!

And yet she does it with ease and complete trust she’ll be okay. She’s that confident and practiced in her abilities. The more you think about it, the more incredible it is.

Astrid the Overachiever

Astrid is probably the most dogged and determined character to succeed in life. She enters Dragon Training in HTTYD with a bold adamancy to come in first. When Hiccup begins to best her in class, she responds by practicing more in her spare time. Astrid is someone who has well-disciplined training skills; she knows how to improve herself and drive herself to success. It in fact bothers her when she sees someone else failing to drive themselves to their potential.

Her athletic prowess is one enormous proof of her incredible diligence. She is no lazy sportswoman, but a dedicated, ever-training warrior with the discipline of the very best. She is an achiever.

Not only do we see that achievement in Dragon Training, but we see it elsewhere. The world turns into a dragon friendly environment. Astrid once was the Viking youth with the greatest talents at killing and fighting dragons. She then becomes one of the most talented Viking youths at riding dragons, too. She also demonstrates high knowledge and capability of different species and other academic knowledge. She is flexible and capable of learning and achieving in any field. Astrid knows how to drive herself and build herself into something special at whatever she puts her mind to. 

She is probably then the most versatile of the members in the Dragon Academy. She masters an incredible array of skills from dragon lore to dragon racing.

Astrid the Intellect

I think sometimes we forget how intelligent Astrid is. She is not pure muscle, but a very crafty and thoughtful woman, too. Astrid is the individual who speaks with some of the most common sense of anyone in her peer group; she is seen critiquing and correcting Hiccup far more than once in Riders and Defenders of Berk. When Hiccup is not the one formulating the plan, Astrid tends to be the one spouting the ideas. Astrid has practical knowledge and can assess a variety of situations with great level-headed reasoning.

She also knows her texts. She’s got common sense and she’s got academic prowess. In How to Train Your Dragon, we see right away that Astrid has already read “The Book of Dragons.” Only she and nerdy Fishlegs have done that. Astrid is a student and capable of sitting down, reading, and learning information. At one point in Riders of Berk, we see her and Fishlegs go into a game of trivia against Snotlout and the twins, and she and Fishlegs dominate it. Astrid is answering the questions, not letting Fishlegs dominate the game. She knows her stuff. If she were in this modern world, she would be getting A’s on her report card. She potentially, depending on your headcanons, could even be getting more A’s than Hiccup.

Astrid the Dragon Trainer

Astrid’s skills flying and training a dragon are impressive. Her gymnastics skills are not limited whatsoever by the high speeds and elevations of flight. Furthermore, she has taught Stormfly to execute very precise commands and is able to get her dragon to aim and shoot spineshots wherever she desires. She and her dragon form a bond where the two know exactly what the other wants; when we see her flying full-speed, she and Stormfly could almost be as one. The youths, when they talk about dragon flying abilities, always place her right after Hiccup. And they’ve got very good reason to.

Astrid has a very fascinating approach to dragon training. She can teach dragons how to do more than straightforward things. While others can teach dragons to fly in certain directions or follow simple verbal commands, Astrid is able to teach a Terrible Terror the very sophisticated art of stealth movement. “Sneaky” does something that is almost uncharacteristic of a Terrible Terror, which tends to be a rather obnoxious and upfront sort of dragon. And she does this in a day. How do you even begin teaching a dragon to do that?

She is able to place a lot of trust in her dragons. She trusts Stormfly to do what she desires even when she does not vocalize any commands aloud. She trusts Stormfly to catch her and fly safely when she is off doing acrobatics. Astrid can do blind jumps and leaps and flips and fully believe her dragon will be there to catch her. That takes enormous time, training, and trust, indicating an amazing ability to bond with a dragon and understand them.

She’s just as good of a dragon rider as Hiccup is. And based on her skillsets, she can do some things he can’t.

Astrid the Empath

I can never talk enough about this wonderful trait of hers. It is true that Astrid can be a belligerent and affrontive individual, aggressive and sharp of tongue, with a mind oriented towards passionate action in times of duress. However, she also has a very tender, soft side which is astoundingly empathetic. She is probably the most empathetic and encouraging of all the dragon riders. Astrid knows how to listen to someone, understand them, and bolster their spirits. She does not give them the answer to their question, but instead empowers them to solve their own problems.

We see Astrid do this again and again. In the first movie, Astrid asks Hiccup what to do before the Kill Ring scene. Afterwards, when Hiccup feels like giving up, she tells him it’s important he was the first Viking to ride a dragon, and then encourages him to go off and do something crazy and stupid. In Riders of Berk Astrid supports Hiccup on his treasure hunting quest because she knows he wants to impress Stoick. In HTTYD 2 she tells Hiccup that the answers to his identity questions are inside his heart, but she goes off flying with him on the map project anyway because she knows it’s how he’s handling his own restlessness. She lifts Hiccup up and then supports the choices he makes. I cannot talk enough about how she especially supports Hiccup. What she does is amazing!

She not only does this with Hiccup, but we see this occur with Heather as well. Astrid and Heather are able to bond in Race to the Edge and become fast friends. She understands when Heather needs to leave Snotlout and the larger group as a whole, taking her away for one-on-one girl bonding time. Later, when Heather wishes to go after Dagur, Astrid understands this is dangerous and knows when to say “No.” But she cares enough for Heather that - as foolish of a decision as it is - she changes her mind. It’s because of how much she cares.

Astrid is an empath. She is not a cold, hard, brutal warrior. She does not live fueled on anger and temper. Not all the time. She knows how to care and bolster up peoples’ spirits. It’s no wonder that Astrid takes the forefront of creating new holiday traditions in Gift of the Night Fury to build peoples’ Snoggletog spirits! She wants to make the people of Berk happy. And frankly, did the eggs not explode, she would have had a very good and cheery idea.

Astrid the Model Citizen

Astrid is not a level five leader. She is not someone who devises revolutionary, out-of-the-box ideas. However, she is an incredible follower - something that every leader and group truly, truly needs. What she does is just as important as Hiccup when he takes the helm. What Astrid can do is stand up and be the citizen that Berk needs, executing plans, supporting Hiccup’s decisions, and taking on the talents that are Berk’s greatest assets.

Basically, Astrid can stand up and always do exactly what Berk needs for her at the given time. She does not balk, she does not argue her way is better, but she understands the sense of what needs to be done… and she goes out and does it. With great speed. With great skill. With great success.

No wonder Stoick is so proud and bubbly of her at the start of How to Train Your Dragon 2. Astrid is a wonderful woman full of many laudable facets. She’s a great personality with a deep heart. She’s a loyal citizen, a model for all of Berk. She’s deeply intelligent, full of common sense and knowledge of many things. She’s a warrior and an athlete. And she’s definitely someone to applaud and appreciate.

finallygaveintothesirencall  asked:

I have seen the first season of Dragons: Riders of Berk and am on to season 2 now. I was wondering what the difference between that and Dragons: Defenders of Berk (if there is one) and what Race to the Edge is so I can make sure I watch everything and in the proper order. I know Gift of the Nightfury and Dawn of the Dragon Racers are two specials kind of as well and I was wondering where those fit into the order of the series so I can watch everything in semi-canonical order (if there is one)

Glad to help! Yes, Defenders of Berk and Race to the Edge are different… you want to watch DOB first since it takes place canonically three years before the latter mentioned.

Canonical order in full is, as best I can reconstruct it (with TMI explanations for why I’m putting things where):

How to Train Your Dragon: Hiccup is fifteen years old in an anti-dragon world. I would place this movie’s events during summer. The weather is nice and green but Stoick is preoccupied about getting enough food before the weather turns worse. Since Hiccup’s birthday is February 29, he has only been fifteen years old for a few months.
Riders of Berk (Dragons Season 1): Hiccup is fifteen and early sixteen in a village which is just barely transitioning into living with dragons. We can easily postulate he has a birthday during this season because “Animal House” has to take place during the fall (Stoick comments they are having an early storm, so that’d be fall). The episode “Thawfest,” meanwhile, takes place in the spring after Hiccup would have had a birthday.
Book of Dragons: A semi-arbitrarily placed movie short. The teenagers talk somewhat knowledgeably about training dragons, suggesting they have had a bit more time to learn about them and train them. Still, they talk about some dragon species as though they have not encountered them face-to-face. This means it probably takes place during Riders of Berk. Its placement could be a little debatable in the fandom.
Legend of the Boneknapper Dragon: People can argue me on this one, too. There is no solid evidence of when LOTBND is, but it is still around the time Hiccup is sixteen. He makes a comment that the dragons never act up in town, suggesting it takes place after the early episodes of ROB when the dragons are still… uncontrolled. 
Riders of Berk (comics): Probably takes place between ROB and DOB because Alvin is still the main antagonist in Hiccup’s life; Dagur, the main bad guy in DOB, has not yet become a menace.
Defenders of Berk (Dragons Season 2): Follows right after the events of Riders of Berk. Hiccup is still sixteen, edging closer to seventeen by the end of the season. In one of the early episodes “Gronckle Iron”, Gobber makes a comment about Snoggletog approaching, suggesting that some of the later episodes in DOB happen canonically after GOTNF. Hiccup will have to be inching toward seventeen by the time of the season finale.
Gift of the Night Fury: Hiccup is sixteen years old, canonically about a year after the events of How to Train Your Dragon. Chris Sanders confirmed that bit of information once in a tweet, I believe, or so I was told by another fan friend of mine.
Dawn of the Dragon Racers (flashback): We do not know Hiccup’s age, but this appears to be one of the first times ever Stoick leaves Hiccup in charge as acting chief (Hiccup sort of has one horrible trial run in the comics before this, but that’s it that we know of). I am guessing that since the Regatta would need fair weather, it is in the late spring and Hiccup has just turned seventeen. He must be about to hit his growth spurt. Note that Dragon Racing does not occur in DOB, suggesting it has not been invented yet and that DOTDR occurs after the second season of Dragons.
Dawn of the Dragon Racers (present day): Hiccup is around eighteen, almost nineteen. I place this before RTTE somewhat arbitrarily, though my hunch is it comes a little bit before RTTE because he and his friends are on Berk, whereas Race to the Edge takes place off of Berk. Off of Berk he and his friends will be exploring for a while, so it makes more sense in my head for DOTDR to precede RTTE. RTTE is also rumored to be where Hiccup creates many of his inventions we see in HTTYD 2, so if DOTDR happened after RTTE, we would have expected to see some of that.
Race to the Edge (Dragons Season 3): The third season of DreamWorks Dragons takes place when the teenagers are eighteen and nineteen years old, a year and a half before How to Train Your Dragon 2. Hiccup is just around the age of turning nineteen here. So to answer your question, the big difference between Defenders of Berk and Race to the Edge is that they take place about three years apart from each other. The main villain from Defenders of Berk will return in Race to the Edge, so you definitely want to watch DOB first!
Dragons Season 4 [title unknown]: Takes place sometime between RTTE and HTTYD 2. No more information about this is known except that it also will appear on Netflix.
How to Train Your Dragon 2: Takes place when Hiccup is twenty years old. I am guessing it is during the fall, in which case Hiccup is twenty and a half years old.
How to Train Your Dragon 3: Don’t know anything canonically, but I’ll bet you anything Hiccup has just turned twenty-one.

In summary:

Other fans are totally free to dispute me on some of my guesses. But for you, friend, this should get the point across of what to watch in what order. The really important thing is just: HTTYD –> Riders of Berk –> Defenders of Berk –> Race to the Edge –> How to Train Your Dragon. Riders of Berk is season 1 of Dragons, Defenders of Berk is season 2 of Dragons, and Race to the Edge is season 3.

The book series by Cressida Cowell is an entirely separate universe and does not overlap with DreamWorks’ canonical material. In these books, Hiccup is between the ages of eleven and fourteen, and the only trick you need to know is that “The Complete Book of Dragons” is canonically written by Hiccup between books ten and eleven (”How to Seize a Dragon’s Jewel” and “How to Betray a Dragon’s Hero”).

So have fun watching the television series! I hope I didn’t spew too much information at you and that this gives you what you want!

anonymous asked:

Am I the only one who is tired of Hiccup always being the hero in every episode?? Many of his heroic action scenes could have been given to the other characters. The others are often treated like they are of no importance. I don't like that :(

I, too, am someone who has voiced desire to make the other characters’ roles more prominent and heroic. I very much would love to see more storylines in Race to the Edge where Hiccup is out of the picture and not in any ways responsible for the final heroic event, or even some of the story’s minor saves. It would create so much more interest, realism, and character depth to the show.

That said, however, Hiccup is far from the hero in every episode. It may often appear as though he were the leading cause for every triumphant wrap-up, but in truth Hiccup is responsible for only about half of the “final saves” throughout the television series.

Yeahhh, I just said half.

Who’s the Episode’s Hero?

What I did was I went through the climax of every episode in Riders of Berk, Defenders of Berk, and Race to the Edge, and counted who made the “final save” during the story’s climax. And here’s what I got:

Hiccup: 25 saves
Snotlout: 7 saves
Fishlegs: 5 saves
No one: 5 non-saves
Astrid: 4 saves
Dragons: 4 saves
Stoick: 4 saves
Gobber: 1 save
Gothi: 1 save
Gustav: 2 saves
Hookfang: 1 save
Ruffnut: 1 save

(A list of who I accredited the heroic save to per episode is at the end of this analysis under the Read More).

Hiccup makes the final save clearly for 25 out of 53 episodes, or approximately 45% of the time. He’s not even accountable for half the climactic saves.

The truth is, lots of characters do monumental actions throughout the series. Fishlegs stands his ground against the Catastrophic Quaken in “Quake, Rattle, and Roll,” as well as saves Hiccup from flying weapons in “The Iron Gronckle.” Stoick saves Thornado’s friend in “How to Pick Your Dragon” as well as secures Dragon’s Edge before the tidal wave comes in during “Crushing It.” Snotlout frees the Whispering Death in “Cast Out Part 2,” defeats the Titan Wing Monstrous Nightmare in “Total Nightmare,” saves Hiccup from the Outcasts in “Defiant One,” throws Pain at the Outcasts to save Meatlug in “Worst in Show,” separates the ice bridge from Berk in “Frozen,” and, alongside Gustav, saves Hiccup from Dagur in “The Flight Stuff.” Astrid stops Heather from reaching Outcast Island in “Heather Report Part 1,” saves herself in “Heather Report Part 2,” and does several monumental last minute saves in Defenders of Berk.

Even when another character is the main hero, there are many “secondary heroes” essential to the success of the plan. For instance, in “Crushing It,” I considered Stoick the main hero because he and Skullcrusher knock over the sea stack before the ocean wave hit. However, the idea for the island to be reinforced comes from Astrid. Her idea gives Stoick his idea, meaning that Astrid is key to the success of the plan. They’re both integrally important to the episode’s happy ending. Similarly, in “Breakneck Bog,” Astrid comes up with the idea for all the Viking youths to throw their metal away so the Smothering Smokebreaths would not follow them… even though Fishlegs is the one who shoots the final blow and gets the dragons to leave. And while Hiccup might save Toothless from Eel Pox by throwing the medicine in his dragon’s mouth, he needs Fishlegs and Meatlug to pin the Night Fury down. Hiccup could not have saved the day without Fishlegs.

Other episodes have so much teamwork, in fact, I couldn’t really pick one hero to save the day. A great example of this is “Fright of Passage.” Fishlegs comes up with the idea to distract the Flightmare by redirecting Berk’s river flow. Astrid comes up with the idea of having their dragons swallow the algae to distract the Flightmare. Hiccup is the one who flies past the Flighmare and shoots a blast on Toothless, finally redirecting the water. Throughout this entire action, you also see Meatlug widening the river channel and Astrid on Stormfly saving Fishlegs. This was full team effort. 

In the same way, “A Tale of Two Dragons” has no clear single hero. Hiccup comes up with the idea for Fishlegs to use Meatlug to take away the dragon root. Fishlegs is the one who ultimately flies the dragon root away. But he can’t do that without pulling the dragon root up, and that is what Snotlout and Astrid do. And it is Astrid’s idea about how they could approach the dragon root… switching dragons. So who do we give the credit to there?

The truth of the matter is, the youths do more integral climactic saves during the television series than the movie trilogy itself. They are not treated as nothings whatsoever, but are the very reason why the Hooligans win their wars. What we see in lots of the action scenes are honestly series of saves… for instance, at the climax of “Frozen,” Ruffnut and Tuffnut save Astrid, and then Snotlout saves Hiccup.

Why the Focus Remains on Hiccup

There are several reasons why it still feels to viewers as though Hiccup is the hero every time. I, too, feel the same thing you do: it seems like Hiccup’s always the one to save the day - even though, statistically speaking, that’s not strictly true.

One of the reasons why Hiccup might appear more prominent is because he is the leader of the Dragon Academy. As the leader, Hiccup maintains the final say in plans. He is the one who comes up with the most ideas and he enacts the most ideas. Others do come up with the final successful plan at times, but what happens is that Hiccup affirms their idea and takes on the responsibility of enacting it. This means that every time Astrid says, “We should do this,” Hiccup determines, “Yes we should,” and we mentally attribute the success of the mission to Hiccup. Other times, Hiccup comes up with the main ideas for the mission but ends up not being the final hero… but because he came up with the idea (let’s think of “Dragon Eye of the Beholder Part 2″ and how Gothi technically saved the day), we attribute the success to him.

It’s really much about perspective. Hiccup is the leader. Hiccup is the protagonist. Hiccup is the person from whose perspective we see the story. Because of that, it’s very easy to see how Hiccup plays into the success of most of the stories… even though everyone else does contribute. 

Now I’m not going to say the representation of every character is perfect, or that Hiccup doesn’t seem to have an overbearing presence in the heroics. It could be improved and I would be very, very happy for more variety. Hiccup still has the clear lead over every other character for heroic saves. He’s got twenty-five that I counted, and the second highest is Snotlout at seven. We go from twenty-five saves to seven and that’s a pretty large difference. Our main character still has the highest percentage of saves compared to every other character in the cast.

And, again, it’s all about the fact Hiccup comes up with lots of the ideas and leads the team even when he doesn’t enact the technical final save. Hiccup soaks in all the attributed success because his word is that of a leader’s. He’s always got some say, investment, and contribution in the success of nearly every story. That makes his presence a little overkill, and we could use more times where Hiccup doesn’t speak up while others are more clearly in the forefront enacting their ideas. This is why I really appreciate “We Are Family;” during that two episode storyline, we see Hiccup outmanipulated by the enemy three times. I love how there’s no possible way to give Hiccup the glory in “Total Nightmare” because Snotlout and Hookfang fight the entire boss battle themselves. I love how Hiccup isn’t even in the scene when Stoick saves the two Thunderdrums in “How to Pick Your Dragon.” We need more episodes like that.

The final problem I want to highlight is that Hiccup is the character who has to be saved the least. Astrid, on different occasions, has been saved by Hiccup (Dragon Eye of the Beholder Part 1), Fishlegs (Reign of Fireworms), a Monstrous Nightmare (Heather Report Part 2), Stormfly (Dragon Eye of the Beholder Part 2), and the twins (Frozen). And that’s only covering some of it.

Hiccup, perhaps, is not shown as frequently in vulnerable positions. My impression is that he even has fewer instances where companions casually save his back. For certain, there are fewer times Astrid saves Hiccup than Hiccup saves Astrid (I know I forgot one moment where Astrid saves Hiccup in that list, but the point still stands). There are also very few times Hiccup’s ideas are actually proven wrong, or that situations under his leadership go awry. This makes Hiccup appear a bit too much like an invincible protagonist. Even though we know he has weaknesses and see them on screen, his strengths are highlighted in such a way Hiccup does not seem as vulnerable as his teammates.

Consequently, Hiccup’s presence is overbearing as the protagonist. Part of that is context. Leaders in real life experience this phenomenon of being attributed success because of their authority and integrated position and decision-making within their team. But another part of it is that the writing could share some more love. Hiccup could be more vulnerable, he could have less overarching leadership to soak up ideas, he could give fewer plans, and more of his plans could go awry. So I agree with you that there could be more prominent heroic parts shared with more characters. I’d be much happier with that variety. Hiccup is still, on the surface level of the plots, a bit too much of a hero.

Nevertheless, I believe we can be thankful Hiccup’s companions do contribute to the story. And while some episodes are certainly better than others, I hope there’s something we can all appreciate there. We should watch the episodes not simply listening for Hiccup’s voice as the leader of the Dragon Academy, but watch intently for all those moments that Astrid makes important suggestions or that Snotlout makes a saving move. They’re out there. They’re definitely all doing things. They’re doing cool things.

And that, at least, is a better start than we see in lots of shows! I’d prefer not to complain but look to see the good we have. It’s not perfect - no, not at all - but there’s a lot of good embedded in there, too. Every single character is, in their own time and place, a hero.

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The Iron Gronckle

When I first watched it, I really liked it. However something felt off…

It was only till I re-watched it did I realize that it was because Hiccup didn’t have his voice-overs in the beginning and end and that upset me.

Sometimes his voice-overs are really incitement and it adds to the episode as a whole…

Am I the only one that feels that way?