Replying to Responses, on how Prussia is ‘Germany’s oldest brother (or so he thinks)’
A lot of people reblogged THIS post and added commentary, debates, questions, corrections, headcanons, discussion, etc.
I’m gonna respond to some of them here (and only reblog the one version with the largest amount of canon-based input), but please keep in mind, I don’t feel well, so I’m sorry if I seem inattentive. I just don’t have the strength right now for full-blown conversation. I apologize in advance. u-u
nerdgirl-98 said: “But Germany canonically has more older brothers than Prussia. Like Hessen and Saxony. I think Hima is pointing to the fact that Prussia acts like the oldest
brother all the time, simply bc hes got a big ego, and so he forgets hes
not actually the eldest.“
Very true. - I agree this is likely what Hima was pointing to.
aph-italy-feliciano said: “Maybe - it’s just my opinion - he meants that Prussia just calls himself
his brother? I remember that Prussia isn’t really Germany’s big
brother, but he says he is because he’s the one who has supported him
So with ‘or so he thinks’ maybe Himaruya just meant
that Prussia thinks he is Germany’s big brother and calls himself so.
Even when he actually isn’t.“
I’ve wondered about this myself. Family ties in Hetalia are a bit strange, and of course Prussia and Germany are blood-related, but so are Austria and Germany, yet Germany doesn’t call Austria ‘big brother’. - Hmm…
Your opinion is a valid one, and an interesting thing to ponder.
aph-preussen said: “Actually, Hima said that Prussia is slightly older than Austria.The HRE theory makes sense.. I really wonder what Hima meant with that.”
And preussen-invasion responded to them: “Well since the Holy Roman Empire was founded in 800 and the Teutonic
Knights weren’t around until 1190 (and the Duchy of Prussia wasn’t
founded until the 16th century), the HRE theory makes a lot of sense
with this little tidbit. However I don’t know where hima is
getting “Prussia is older than Austria” thing because the Margravate of
Austria was founded in the 900s. He might be calling the start of
Hapsburg Austria (13th century) the start of Austria as we know it, but
it’s still a little weird.“
@ aph-preussen – Okay. I must have missed the part where Hima said Prussia was slightly older than Austria. (Could you provide a link to that information, please? I trust your knowledge of canon, and especially of APH Prussia, but again, I’d like to see it for myself.)
And @ preussen-invasion – I totally agree.
trash-a-nator said: “Tbh i was thinking since prussia was the lead in unifying germany, maybe
prussia is germanys dad?????? Me and my fucking weird mind idek“
Heh. Well, I…imagine if Prussia were Germany’s dad, Prussia would insist on Germany calling him ‘Dad’ instead of ‘Big Brother’. ;)
quitranstulitsustinet said: “Why would Prussia be the oldest? It was a late forming state, compared to Bavaria or Saxony.
mean, you have to go around about the time that the Teutonic Order
finally settled and basically got rid of the Old Prussian culture. We
can’t count Old Prussia as a German state since these people were far
from it; Baltic, with Slavic mixed in as well, not those of German
Therefore, we’re looking at a time around 1274 A.D.,
which obviously the Saxons and Bavarians existed before hand. For
instance, the concept of “Bavaria” that we have today started existing
around 554 A.D. as a Duchy, but even before then with their own lands.
Saxony would be around…804 A.D. as a Duchy, but honestly, those who we
consider Germanic an call the “Saxons” existed there in prehistory.
states are older as well, so to call Prussia the oldest is probably a
mistake by Himapapa, or translation. Besides, I’ve known Himapapa to
make countless historical mistakes in his work.”
doofy-lawyer-chan responded to that and/or to me by stating: “Well since most of the manga takes place in WWII, Prussia can be
considered Germany’s older brother because Prussia formed as a country
before Germany technically did and that’s probably what Himapapa is
referring to when he calls Prussia the eldest. Besides, Prussia having
the ego that he does, why wouldn’t he still consider himself the oldest?
Also, Prussia probably would never consider HRE when calling himself
the older brother because Germany doesn’t recall ever being HRE and
Prussia would never want to remind him of such a horrible ending to the
As far as the whole ‘or so he thinks’ thing, more than
likely it refers to him acting like the younger brother, while Germany
acts like the oldest.“
@ doofy-lawyer-chan – Yours is one of the best responses I’ve read.
witch-of-the-world said: “I read somewhere (a history thing, not a Hetalia thing) that Switzerland
is the oldest Germanic nation, then Austria, then Teutonic
Knights/Prussia, then HRE/Germany. I personally consider these four to
be nation-biologically brothers, but only Prussia and Germany actually
consider themselves brothers. It’s a nation thing, in my mind. (And then
Liechtenstein is the baby of the family, and that by my own headcanon
is an extremely long and complicated story.)“
Yeah, that part about brothers sounds right to me, as well.
There. I’m sorry if I missed anyone. Thank you to everyone who responded.