I read your comment about the roundtable interview about YOI. Is it true that Yamada-san said how Victor and Yuuri are very clearly gay? I read some summaries, but I want to know if he or someone else really said it like that? (Idk, but I think even if he is a good/close friend of Yamamoto-san, he can not speak for her or Kubo-san...)
He is not exactly saying that “they are gay” (I mean, what he says means that, I’m just saying that he “didn’t use that exact wording”), but he is saying that they are clearly in love with each other and is commenting on how 20 years ago characters in BL would not accept themselves and think they are weird or “wrong”, but in YOI it’s all normal, which shows how things have progressed from the past.
They also comment on the fact that in YOI they could have shown their romance in a much more evident way but they didn’t, they focused on the entertainment, and that’s what made the show so popular. (So basically they are actually praising the fact that no explicit romance was shown, because that would have probably restricted its popularity and made it less appealing to people who dislike romantic or m/m elements. I think this is what most people familiar with Japanese society would say, and I agree too)
They also say how in episode 10, in the part where Victor and Yuuri go “on a date” (their words) and shopping, Yuuri’s reactions are “so much like a girl’s”. And “they have matching rings and are in their own world” (this I think he was saying about the scene in episode 11 where Victor kisses Yuuri’s ring before he goes to skate “Eros”, because then he says “and then Yuuri goes to the rink”). I laughed when then he says “I couldn’t look at it” and the other guy too “I couldn’t either”, and “guys (male viewers) were totally left out”. They are saying this in an amused way, they are not criticizing the scene, but yeah if they had shown something more evident in the series some people that are not as broad-minded as them would probably have quit watching the show. I myself wanted to hide under the table when they showed the scene at the end of episode 7 on Music Station (prime time music TV program watched by heaps of “normal people”, as in “non-otaku”) without any context at all, lol.
But yeah, he’s Yamamoto’s friend but he doesn’t know Kubo at all, and he wasn’t involved in the production of YOI in the least, so he’s just talking based on his own impressions watching the series and maybe some things Yamamoto told him. He almost never says “Yamamoto told me~” in the interview or use wordings that imply that it’s something he was told by someone (Japanese people will use this kind of sentence structure when they are referring to something they were told, they have lots of ways to express that), therefore I actually think it’s really mostly based on his interpretation. But what he thinks is probably what many people in the animation/entertainment industry, especially the ones familiar with BL and who aren’t creeped out by it, think too, though most of them will never say it out loud, so that’s why it’s interesting.
And a random note: in my experience watching interviews, reading articles and looking at people’s tweets, men are usually much more blunt about BL than women, especially creators and people involved in the production of an anime. I think that women are scared that if they say something that hints at BL people will not take their opinions objectively and just think “you see things from that point of view because you’re a woman so you like BL”, while if it’s men saying the same exact thing people are not going to think it’s because they like BL, so they don’t feel that they have to justify themselves or avoid certain topics. Kubo too actually says something like this in her interview on Febri (sorry it will be posted within today…).
Also I was told that the interview is now normally available on NicoNico as well (that’s where the Japanese transcript comes from apparently). There’s overlaying text on the footage saying that it comes from a “members limited program”, but I guess they decided to publish this part about YOI afterwards? Good to know Avex is tolerant enough to let this exist, lol. But then again they own the copyright to Osomatsu-san so yeah…
(By the way they don’t just talk about Victor and Yuuri in the roundtable, they also praise many other aspects of the series!)