I saw someone commenting on a George RR Martin interview where he talks about why he named the series Ice and Fire. This person seemed to assume that George’s answer meant that Jon and Daenerys represent Ice and Fire together, respectively, which is something I have always very vocally disagreed with, and will continue to do until Martin himself tells me I’m wrong (that means Dan and David and their fanfic freakshow and magazine covers are irrelevant to me).
I read/listened to this interview a long, long time ago, and it never gave me the impression that my idea of what the Song of Ice and Fire means, is wrong… Here’s why:
(WARNING: IF YOU THINK DAENERYS IS A SAVIOR QUEEN, THIS META WILL EITHER CHANGE YOUR MIND OR PISS YOU AND YOUR DELUSIONS OFF!)
Hello, are there any jon/arya parallels in asoiaf the same there is for jon/dany? what about jon/dany and jon/dany/arya parallels? doesnt it sound weird how all of them are connected and have parallels with eachother? what is george trying to say with this?
There are tons of Jon/Arya parallels, but if we’re strictly talking about ones that expand to include Jon, Arya, and Dany, there are a few. All three have intense connections to magic, and more specifically the animals by which their Houses are represented in sigil; Arya with Nymeria, Dany with Drogon, Jon with Ghost. And all three animals are alphas in a way; Nymeria is obvious with her at the head of her pack (constantly described as a monstrous she-wolf), Drogon is obvious as well because he has been described as Balerion reborn, and Ghost is more subtle. He was the last to be discovered of the litter, thought to be the runt, but he ends up growing quickly and larger than his brothers or sisters. He’s also shown to be one of the only presences that can calm Nymeria or make her submit, so that’s something.
Then there’s their connections and time with the groups of smallfolk in the areas they occupy. Arya, Jon, and Dany come to sympathize with people typically discriminated against, and act as their champions of sorts; Dany on her various tours, beginning in Vaes Dothrak and currently in Meereen, Jon with the wildlings, and Arya with the riverfolk and those in Braavos. All three also find a love interest within these ranks: Drogo, Daario, Ygritte, Gendry.
The next parallel is one that is quite admittedly reaching, but enough for me to comment on it, and it’s how they relate to Rhaegar. Dany is obvious; his sister, his beauty reincarnated in female form. Jon is his secret son, unbeknownst to (almost) everyone living. Arya is Lyanna reincarnated, the latter of which was Rhaegar’s lover, whether willing or unwilling we have yet to find out. Despite Arya’s lack of solid connection to him, it is still significant that it’s hammered home so often that she resembles in looks and personality her late aunt.
It’s also significant that each character has references to the other with no subtlety, but directly. I’m going to omit Arya and Jon’s relationship here because it’s too obvious for analysis. Arya has the profound moment in the dungeons of the Red Keep where the dragons lead her to safety, and she also thinks of them as “old friends.” Jon has a moment where he wishes for “a dragon or three,” and Dany often hears wolves howling but never so significantly than when she is alone, miscarrying, and starving in her final chapter of the last book.
Perhaps my favorite of their parallels are the king/queen references for all three. Dany’s have always been there, in her slow but steady process of turning herself from princess to conquering queen, but Arya’s and Jon’s are more subtle, though no less meaningful. Arya has several queen references (as I’ve went into detail in this meta), and Jon is constantly called “king” by Mormont’s raven which is thought to be controlled by Bloodraven. He’s also (one of) Robb’s heir(s) so that’s something too.
Off the top of my head, they’re also all great horseriders, outcasts/underdogs steadily gaining power and momentum, defy stereotypes, befriend sex workers, fiercely loyal to their families, extremely cunning, and are kind-hearted yet firm with bouts of malice for their enemies. All in all, it’s no surprise that Arya, Dany, and Jon mirror each other in so many ways. They’re three of five characters singled out in GRRM’s pitch letter, each with their hands dipped in pots that hugely affect the moving storyline, and will no doubt have big parts in the war against the Others as well as where the Seven Kingdoms end up by the finish of the story.
You met Alayne the day Lord Baelish brought her to the Vale.
She was quiet and timid; uncertain really of what she was doing there. She was
the daughter to Lord Baelish, his bastard daughter, but she looked nothing like
him. You always felt, from the moment you saw the two of them together, that
there was something off about their relationship, but you didn’t dare to say
anything with Lord Baelish being Lady Arryn’s husband and then soon after the
regent of Lord Robert “Robin” Arryn after Lady Arryn’s….death.
By popular demand, our sixth gym’s ace shall be… Thermini! That is to, say the sixth gym’s Ice/Fire dual-type nature will be divided between the two forms of Thermini, who differ in their secondary type between Fairy/Ice and Fairy/Fire! Their designs were originally created, of course, by ehalcyon!
With this determined, it’s now time to start working on…
CALL FOR SUGGESTIONS: Pure Fire-Type Line
is slightly less common than Ice as a type in Mysteria; apart from the
ported-over Fennekin line, which gains a secondary type anyway, there
are no pure Fire-types, and Ice boasts on such line and a
part-Ice legendary. Given that we aren’t creating a new Ice/Fire-line to
bolster their presence in the ‘dex, and since a new gym is usually a
good excuse to create a new line, lets’ take the opportunity to create a new Fakemon line
which could plausibly appear in the line-up of an adherant (or as a
secondary ‘mon to the leader) in our sixth gym! This line should not be
just any type, but pure Fire-type! We are, after all, a little sparse of singularly-typed Fakemon around here, too.
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