i'm just saying if u are going to not make a star trek film for star trek fans

lizstargaryen  asked:

Hi again, Lucy! With S/U being discussed so much in Beyond's wake (by fans & detractors), I'm wondering what the original series actors had to say about it. I have seen a post or two that says that Spock and Uhura's relationship in these movies takes them out of character. I've also read what Nichelle Nichols said about what she thought about it, but what about Leonard Nimoy? Since they originated these characters 50 years ago, I'd like to know what they had to say about the new movies. Thanks!

The old cast is adorbs! They had fun about the rebooted characters for the most part :D
Nichelle did support the idea that the relationship was a possibility in tos too but couldn’t be explored at the time because of the racial climate of the 60s. In her book too, before the reboot was even made, she always said Spock was the character Uhura was the most close to on the ship and the one who intrigued her. She would have loved to see a relationship for Uhura ( “I think Uhura is a very independent woman but a relationship for her would be a very exciting aspect to delve into. There is a great potential to develop Uhura because she has many interesting qualities.’ …. ” ) . She also always supported Zoe and keeps saying she’s proud of her.

Some of her quotes about the reboot:

“I decided then from the character that I read [Spock] that I wanted to be very much like that character but in a feminine way. And Gene [Roddenberry] said, and I was sharing this with George [Takei] the other day, when I told him that I thought of Spock as my mentor. Because if you remember Uhura was the only one he was able to teach the Vulcan lyre to and he sang and spooffed on Spock. Now, you could have never had a love scene in 63 between Uhura and Spock but there were several hints and Gene was one in the kind of beginning to follow that“  (the trekfest ‘09”)

Spock fascinated her, her serious side. Now, this is me making my story on what happened, but he saw in her his human side and she touched a side of him that they were supposedly discreet about.
Now, go back to my participation in Star Trek as Uhura and Leonard (Nimoy) as Spock. There was always a connection between Uhura and Spock. It was the early 60’s, so you couldn’t do what you can do now, but if you will remember, Uhura related to Spock. When she saw the captain lost in space out there in her mirror, it was Spock who consoled her when she went screaming out of her room. When Spock needed an expert to help save the ship, you remember that Uhura put something together and related back to him the famous words, “I don’t know if I can do this. I’m afraid.” And Uhura was the only one who could do a spoof on Spock. Remember the song (in “Charlie X”)? Those were the hints, as far as I’m concerned. ”
(fan questions, star trek.com)


Leonard.. oh Nimoy was such a sweetheart too, no wonder why him and Zachary developed such a close relationship beyond his participation to the movies. He liked the reboot and he loved spock/uhura.  Let me try to bring back some of his comments.
In an interview for trekmovie they asked him what was his fav thing about new Spock and he said:

trekmovie: Once you mentioned that he did something that blew you away. I am curious now that I have seen the film, what was it that you went ‘oh that is really interesting’?

Nimoy: His relationship with Uhura, he played something that I was quite touched by. So did she for that matter. They both were terribly available for each other.
[also] I was really affected by his final moment with the Vulcan council when he rejected their invitation to go to the Vulcan Institute, and the way he said “live long and prosper.”

and his wise words here:

“There is no way in the world that a Star Trek film will please every Star Trek follower or fan, no way. And to try to would be a death sentence, you just can’t. You twist yourself into pretzels over ‘what are they going to say about this’…for god’s sake what are people going to say about Uhura and Spock having the relationship they have in this movie? What? I thought it was wonderful and touching and effective.

other comments:

Beautiful, beautiful. Wonderful, both of them played it so well. They were both so available to each other. Very touching, really.”

I thought Zachary’s choices in his performance often surprised me in a very positive way. I often thought, ‘I would never have thought to do that! That’s a wonderful idea.’ I was, frankly, extremely jealous of his scenes with Zoe Saldana and I think it’s totally unfair that I never got to do that kind of stuff. I will never forgive the writers and the director for having put me in this position, that I have to be watching them instead of participating. (…) these two, I think, were wonderful together and this is such a passionate performance by Zoe, that I was so pleased to be a part of this movie, with all these good people.”

QUESTION:   How did you feel when you first read that script? Were you resistant to that [spock/uhura], because it’s quite a significant character shift.
LEONARD NIMOY:  You know, I’ll tell you. I was bemused by it when I read it in the script. I was amazed by it when I saw it on screen. I thought it was incredible.
QUESTION:  So, do you think it works?
LEONARD NIMOY:  Brilliantly. Don’t you?

this is also a video where he said the thing about being jealous too LOL

I also love this quote by Zach about Nimoy because it kind of summarizes it all

“In some ways he was grateful to be able to share this character with someone else, because it was something that he had experienced singularly for so many years. I never felt that he was trying to instruct me, to tell me how to do it. He was just there to answer whatever questions I had. He was very supportive of my take on Spock.” - Zachary Quinto