i'm impressed they knew what she was saying

  • Kara: I'm supergirl....
  • Lena: You are... you are...
  • Kara: You knew?
  • Lena: You're making my life much greener...
  • Kara: You can't believe how relieved I am to see that you're not mad at me.
  • Lena: Just say you feel the way that I feel ... I'm feeling sexual... we could be sexual...
  • Kara: I...you what...*almost in tears* I never thought telling the truth would be this so rewarding...
  • Alex: *removes lena's earphones* could you atleast listen to my sister, she's having a dramatic revelation and you're giving her the wrong impression.
  • what she says: i'm fine
  • what she means: do people really think that Steve is only being nice to impress Nancy? do they remember when Barb cut her hand and he was the only one who actually tried to help and gave her space but watched her while he was outside still? he tried so hard to include her and he actually was really nice to Nancy for the most part and he tried really hard to fix his behavior. he even dropped his friends before he knew that Nancy would take him back and went to apologise to Jonathan. Just let the kid battle his internalized hyper-masculinity and aggressive tendencies before getting so mad at him. please. he's doing his best.

anonymous asked:

I hope this isn't too private a question, if so, just ignore.You mentioned earlier that you, as well as your 14-year-old daughter read 1D fanfiction. Did you ever talk about your daughter about the possibility of H&L being gay/in a relationship? Or did she mention it herself? I'm interested in the different perceptions of the members of 1D among their younger fans because I get the impression that Larry fandom mostly consists of older fans (17 years and upwards) who clearly see the closeting.

Ah! YES, I have talked to her about this.

I just straight out told her one day that I thought Louis and Harry were dating. Okay, full disclosure, what I actually did was randomly say “Eleanor’s a beard” in the middle of supper because I knew she would be the only one who knew what I meant and I thought it would be funny.

I was really surprised because she actually got mad at me! Like, legitimately angry! When we talked about it later, she said that she was angry because so many Larry shippers sent hate to Eleanor and were rude to the boys, and that Larry shippers had ruined Harry and Louis’ friendship. I am not making this up. She totally bought the party line.

Of course I had several serious conversations with her about this reaction. I explained that while it was never acceptable to send hate to anyone, that simply thinking that Louis and Harry were gay/bi/pan and in a relationship was not an insult; and that thinking of it as an insult was homophobic behaviour. We talked about the support that Harry, especially, has shown for the LGBTQA+ community, etc. etc. (Parenting, basically). That worked to convince her that it wasn’t right to be angry about people shipping the boys together or believing that two of them were in a relationship.

I don’t think that her failure to see the issues we see is age related, she just doesn’t seem very interested in figuring out what’s actually going on behind the scenes. I asked her why she though Elounor was real even though there was so much evidence to the contrary, and she basically said, “Louis said their dating, and I believe him. If he tells me something different, I’ll believe that.” Since she’s not following the clues and identifying the inconsistencies like we do, she doesn’t see the cracks in the official narrative.

I think that, for Emma and many fans like her, there are three things that are great about being in the fandom: (1) the music, (2) cute boys, and (3) being part of a group.

When I talk to her about it, I get the sense that I’m dealing with a group mentality. As you probably know, the core 1D fandom has a culture of follow-backs on Twitter and Instagram, so everyone is very interconnected. (Emma, for example, has thousands of Twitter followers and over a thousand Instagram followers). I think this explains how things get out of control so quickly on Twitter.

Because the fandom is so keyed in to social media, it’s really important for them to believe that the boys themselves run their Twitter and Instagram accounts, so that they can maintain the illusion of genuine interaction. That’s why things like the “bullshit” tweet are so generally effective within the mainstream fandom.

I have two examples that make me think a lot of Emma’s opinions are being shaped by what she hears from other fans.

  1. When Haylor happened, I know that Emma believed it was real because we talked about it. Just the other day, she agreed with me that it was definitely fake. I feel sure that this change was caused by interactions with other fans.
  2. She hates Modest, but she doesn’t know why. When I asked, she basically said, “Everbody hates them.”

It does seem like some of what this part of the fandom sees is trickling down into the mainstream fandom, although I don’t know how (maybe we need to do some astroturfing of our own.)

Long story short; I don’t think she sees the closeting, but I think it’s because she actively chooses not to see it. The fandom is interconnected, but appears relatively cohesive in generally accepting the official narrative. Most importantly, 1DHQ has succeeded in demonizing Larry shippers to the point that many/most mainstream fans actually think that Harry and Louis’ friendship has been hurt, and actually blame that on the shipping.