I love butt stuff. I hate spiders. I stole a pen from the bank. I cried during ‘About a Boy’…the soundtrack! I can see why women find Clive Owen attractive to the point where I might just as well be attracted to him. I use comparisons to Hitler to win arguments on the internet at the drop of a hat. I know nothing about wine. I’m more turned on by women in pajamas than lingerie. I just wanna know that they’re comfortable. I didn’t get Inception. I didn’t get Inception! There’s so many layers.
When Jon had recently come out of the shadows questioning PC culture and the *far* left, even myself as a Liberal would’ve rallied with him. I didn’t agree with 100% of what he was saying, but that’s to be expected of nearly anyone you meet. Only surrounding yourself in a circlejerk of people you agree with is detrimental to democracy and debate, so I didn’t care too much at the beginning.
Post Sargon stream, I could at least see where he was coming from a few areas. He had reasonable questions, although I think a lot of his solutions or answers were heavily flawed. He at least raised concerns and brought discussion to his fanbase, although the two sides rarely clashed, continuing a circlejerk, left or right.
Post Destiny stream, I’ve lost pretty much all respect for Jon. His resolves have gotten infinitely worse and remarkably dangerous. Although he was very scatterbrained, his arguments sounded like they were straight off /pol/, with next to no data to back up what he said. Destiny isn’t a fantastic debater by any stretch, and I didn’t agree with everything he said, but its fair to say he wrecked Jon.
Theres been a lot of discourse on a surface level about Nazi’s and White Supremacists, which quickly devolved into a witch hunt to call anyone a Nazi or Fascist (take the Pewdiepie debacle for instance). I rallied against this dogma, as I think it’s important we are vigilant and careful with the words we use to describe people, in order to keep their meaning. So I mean every word when I say:
Jontron is not a Nazi.
Jontron is not a White Supremacist
Based on the arguments Jon was giving, there is reason to suggest he may be a White Nationalist. There is a key difference here that many ignore.
A White Supremacist is someone that believes white people are inherently genetically superior to other races. A very unethical position (as if you needed a clue).
A White Nationalist believes in a “White Ethno-State”, meaning they believe a nation should remain European. (Also unethical and pointless) This is what Jon was heavily eluding to with his arguments when he refers to “tribalism” or “Japan being an ideal nation.”
These two types of people are still incredibly unethical, but i stress that we are militant in regards to using the correct words to refer to unethical or ethical people. In my view, based purely on what Jon said in the Destiny debate, there are fair grounds to suggest Jontron is a White Nationalist.
Not a White Supremacist, but a White Nationalist. Both are incredibly unethical and should not be respected, but I just wanted to make this post as objective as possible, in hopes that anyone who sees this can reflect on the words we choose to describe people.
Before the Destiny Debate, Jontron was just a unconventional sideshow political commentator. After the debate, we learned that Jon is incredibly xenophobic, ignorant an fallacious. This is no longer speculation, there are quotes to prove it.
This is remarkably disappointing, as he was a person I could’ve at least mildy respected towards all this, for going against the status quo. But given his large audience, his recent resolves to socio-economic issues are very alarming, and theres really no telling if he’ll double down (as he has condemned others for in the past) or if he’ll hang up the short lived mask of a know-it-all political commentator. I can only imagine the sigh of relief Arin is having right now.
I hope this was at all interesting (probably not), and that I’ve succeeded in being objective and reasonable with my position.
If you have any thoughts or criticisms of this I’d love to hear them and discuss in a healthy manner.
TLDR; It is reasonable beyond doubt that Jontron is a White Nationalist.
Reggie [after being injected with 'truth serum']:
I love butt stuff. I hate spiders. I stole a pen from the bank. I cried during ‘About a Boy’…the soundtrack! I can see why women find Clive Owen attractive to the point where I might just as well be attracted to him. I use comparisons to Hitler to win arguments on the internet at the drop of a hat. I know nothing about wine. I’m more turned on by women in pajamas than lingerie. I just wanna know that they’re comfortable. [starts sobbing] I didn’t get Inception. I didn’t get Inception! There’s so many layers.