hey i was going through your blog and saw some posts (in the tags) where you said you think that the touken baby will die and in others you say you want it to live. why do you think it die? wouldnt it be like meh if ishida killed the baby after everything?
OHOH, that’s a painful ask right there, dear anon.
Okay so, first of all: i don’t want this to happen.
Some people tend to think that “I believe it might happen” is the same as “I want this to happen” which is NOT.
your question… There are actually many reasons why I believe the baby won’t make
through :c (even though part of me is like ‘’I still haV E FAI T H !!!!”
sorry if I sound confusing btw HDGFJSAJGAJH)
To begin with, some months/year ago, Ishida posted a poem alongside a drawing (in which I can’t remember exactly if it was the Kirishimas + Yomo’s bday one) and its title was something like “Her womb smelled like it was burnt”. In that poem there were these lines “and the children supposed to live, died”
At that time, we wouldn’t even dream that Touka would get pregnant so we were just like “?????” but now….. it makes much more sense
on Suzuya’s birthday, ishida posted another poem, and in this one there were
these lines “should I have killed both?” “it was going to die anyway”-
something like that, and to be quite honest, we don’t even need a context to
this, it’s already scary by itself –LOL
Many were speculating that it might have something related to Touka (I was and still am one of those), yet after this chapter… it seems even more clear that it IS related to her
Oh and hear me out, I don’t think she will die, not now neither ever. I believe she is one of the –maybe few- characters that will make through the end, but as you could see in some of my reblogs, her baby isn’t exactly on my list of ‘characters i think will live’
ATTENTION!!!: For this point forward, my words are fully based on speculation and sad thoughts that were formed while listening to heartbreaking songs before sleep:
-TRY- explain to you my thoughts
I have killed both?” “it was going to die anyway”, I see this as if he is
saying that he pierced Touka’s stomach, killing the baby, but, whenever I thought
about it, the question “what does he means by ‘it was going to die anyway’?”
appeared on my mind because even if you
see it as if he killed Touka and not the baby, it’s obvious that it
wouldn’t survive because it needs the mother to develop and such, plus there would be no reason to ‘should i have killed both’, so of course
‘it would die anyway’,
unless he meant that by piercing her stomach –killing the
baby- and so leaving her there bleeding until death arrived, but holy shit
that’d be just way too cruel, and Juuzou’s development wouldn’t let he do such
a thing, imo. But then I came to the conclusion: “should I have killed both?” =
“should I have killed the mother too?” – after realizing she was pregnant and
perhaps feeling guilty for letting her in pain and suffering after losing her
unborn child – “it was going to die anyway” = “ahh… the baby was bond to die
anyway” – after learning (if he doesn’t know that already) that a ghoul woman
can’t have a child with a human man, realizing he only speed up the process.
But that would only apply if he gives up on trying to kill her, and leaves. Also, idk how he would know about her pregnancy but as i said, FULLY BASED ON SPECULATION. I don’t know what will happen, but I’m
free to think and suffer OHOHOH
Ahhh and of
course, the wild “Why would Ishida make Touka get pregnant if he was going to
kill the baby later? Even if it’s a tragic story, wouldn’t that be too much?
Only for tragedy-sake?” appears, and well, at first I thought that way too, but
after reading some posts from @linkspooky and @midnight-in-town (please visit their blog, it’s amazing plus they are MUUUUCH better in this than i am GSHFJSHGDFH) in which they said that Touka ‘doesn’t
care about all this war’, i started to understand why would Ishida do
something like this
- Even if she doesn’t care about all of this, she can’t deny the fact that the world she is living in is currently a fucked up place.
- Even if the baby doesn’t die and she
gives birth, what would happen to it if she and Kaneki die? The baby would be
just one more out of the hundred children that are left alone because their
parents died. Her child would lose their place to belong, just like what
happened with her and Ayato when Hikari and Arata died
–even tho Arata is still unknow. Of course, I’m not saying that they will die (after all, Touka and Ken are in my list of characters-i-think-will-live) but it is important to be aware that they are living in a war-moment. Anything can happen at any time. The child could somehow be separated from them.
- She gives birth, now what? She can’t live peacefully. She can’t live with her family in a world like this, where in a moment her child goes out to play, and in the other it can be killed without mercy in seconds.
- As linkspooky and Acchan said, she
doesn’t care about this, she just want a family, but if she loses her unborn
baby, what would happen to her? How would she feel? What kind of thoughts would
pass through her mind? “it’s unfair”, “why”, “why can’t we live”, “why can’t
you live”, “is it my fault”, “I couldn’t protect you”, “I’m sorry” ?
- If her unborn baby really dies, what kind of changes would it bring to her? A reality shock. Again, she can’t live in a world like this. She can’t make her baby live in a fucked up place like this. She can’t have a happy family in this kind of world. Her loss would be what would make her open her eyes, what would give her the greatest will to change the world (alongside Kaneki and goat/hide/whatever). It would be the thing that would make her remember how unfair it is to live.
Again, I’m not saying I want this, to me, if the baby could live (with both Touka and Ken) I would be the happiest bitch in this world, believe me. Yet… can they really acchieve happiness like this?
Even if the child dies, it will only be over if Touka dies. -> “we can only live while losing important things”, that’s how her life has been since the begging of Tokyo Ghoul. As long as she is alive, she will keep losing and losing.
doesn’t mean everything is lost. As long
as you live, you will lose, but you will also gain, you just need to keep
going, to face forward and keep walking. What is her goal? A place where she
can live happily and peacefully with her child and her husband? Then keep it in
mind and fight for it. Because again, it’s only over when you die.
She can still have her family because she and Kaneki are still alive.
She has to fight, there is no escape, but she can use the pain she feels with her losses as a strength to keep her moving
forward. That’s how life is.That’s how her life is.
This was all based on my personal thoughts so you are free to agree or
Thanks for the question and I hope you have a nice day, dear anon~~ <3 !