7 x 5 Jonsa Thoughts
Can we talk about this scene a little bit?
Everything characters say this season mean something. They don’t rephrase another character for no reason.
The lines means something.
Like “it’s not you” Arya said to Nymeria.
Like “Chaos is a ladder” Bran told Littlefinger.
I know Missandei is always wishing everybody good fortune too, but these exactly words were said by this fellow here:
Sir Arthur Dayne, the sword of the morning said this same lines to Ned at Tower of Joy, before they fight to death.
The lines DO mean something. Jon could have said anything to Dany but they decided to rephrase Arthur Dayne’s words. Why?
Because it means something very important.
It’s a foreshadowing of the future of thoses characters.
It’s clear since season 6 Jon is Ice and Dany is Fire, and that the Song of Ice and Fire is about them. This title is even similar to “The Pact of Ice and Fire” an alliance between House Targaryen and House Stark during the Dance of the Dragons. So I don’t think we’re wrong about the subjects of this song.
But the thing is ASOIAF or GoT are not about love histories. Love always have tragic ends here. Robb and Talisa in the show, Jon and Ygritte, Dany and Drogo, romantic love never lasts. And if you think about it, historic periods in Westeros do have poetical names: Dawn Age, Age of Heroes,and the most famous of all: the Dance of the Dragons.
I mean, look at this fabulous and epic name: Dance of the Dragons. They called it a dance but it was a civil war when thousands of people died, dragons died and the Seven Kingdons bled.
The Song of Ice and Fire is the same thing. A poetic name for a moment of war in Westeros. The Dance of the Dragons envolved many houses but it was called this way because basically it was a war between Targaryens (Rhaenyra and Aegon II), the Song of Ice and Fire got this name because it’s a struggle between Starks and Targaryens. Between Jon and Dany. It’s not a love story between them. They are meant to fight each other. That’s why this phrase is being said. A phrase is only adressed to an enemy.
I know Jon is Rhaegar’s son and a trueborn Targaryen in the show, but Jon is a Stark in his heart. He is and I don’t think this will ever change.
And you know that too.
Jon will have to choose to which House his loyalt will be, and that will be very important: if he decides to use the Targaryen name, house Stark name will die, cuz Bran and Arya will probably never have kids and Sansa children will receive her husband’s name. If Jon decides to go Stark pride, the Targaryen House will die, cuz we know Dany cannot have children anymore, and even if she could the problem would be the same Sansa’s. I do think he will go for the second option, because he’s a Stark to the bone. And Dany said herself “I’m the last Targaryen” in 7x3. That line was said for many reasons and I believe this is one of them.
Have you heard the “love theme” for Jon and Dany? If you haven’t you should.
It’s a very pretty song but it’s also very very sad. I mean, have you heard “Across the Stars”? Anakin and Padmé theme song in Star Wars? That’s a love song that inspires you about love and fighting for it. Dany and Jon’s song is not.
Dany and Jon’s theme is a sad song that makes you want to cry, it’s like you’re listening to a tragedy. Listen to that makes me feel just like when I watched Zuko fighting his sister Azula in Avatar The Last Airbender: a beautiful song that sings a sad and tragic moment we almost couldn’t bare to see.
I already told you how I think this series is going to end in a tragic way for Daenerys but all the parallels showing how different they are, their theme song, this phrase, it’s all hitting me in a way that each episode makes me feel more sad for her. She’s clearly falling for him, but the show is clearly showing they will not end up together. A time will come when they face each other on opposite sides.
Every episode Sansa grows as a leader, loyal to Jon and the key to the North.
“The northeners will not accept a southner ruler”
“We came here for you, my lady”
“We should have choosen you to lead us”
The lines mean something.
The show is heading to a struggle between Jon and Daeneys and a arrangement between Sansa and Jon in the next season, that’s sure.
The only thing that really really hurts me is the fact there will be only 6 episodes to work “Jon x Sansa romance” and the public really likes to hate Sansa no matter what she does, and this starkbow with Arya doesn’t help at all.
I’ll be happy to see them together but the public will probably rage and say Daenerys was better option.
This awesome gifs came from @dreamofspring.
Here’s our friend Mance who also quoted this to his enemy in the show AKA Stannis, also called “bend the knee or burn alive” boy:
If you think is coincidence, you’re not paying enough attention.