i think this was the first gay kiss on tv

anonymous asked:

when did glenn kiss a guy?? was it for a movie or something??

the incident i was talking about in that post was in a movie yeah! in coffee town his character kissed a guy in a club to get ecstasy out of the other guy’s mouth

sometime after this i think he also kissed morgan tookers in one of his mindy project episodes? but as far as i know coffee town was his first gay kiss for a movie or tv role….. which begs the question “what was he talking about when he said this wasn’t the first time”

Humor and Fear and Insta-Love

I keep going through the confessions of Fans on an instagram-account where I shouldn’t be because it makes me angry and causes me to write these things. 

But I did it anyway and yay, let’s have some fun …

What I want to address here is the idea that show!Malec was rushed and that people would have preferred to have the secret relationship and those funny scenes we got in the books. 

I think I addressed the first thing already at some point during the show, but let’s summarize it again:
-> Magnus and Alec aren’t dating at the point of the coming out in the show, Alec comes out because he has set himself a deadline with wedding
-> Alec kisses Magnus to make it an easily understandable message of ‘I’m gay and I would like to date this guy’
-> the coming out happens after several interactions over a quite short amount of time (mostly because these fantasy stories have the habit of an Apocalypse over night-sort of thing, same for the books - they often take place over the course of a week or something close to that)
-> the relationship is still going to happen, it’s no insta-love, it’s more a case of insta-attraction and a whole puberty of pent up emotions

Now, could you say it was a rushed coming out after twenty years in the closet?
- Yes, that’s totally debatable.
Is it a rushed development of the book-storyline? 
- No. 

The Books:
-> Magnus and Alec are dating at the point of the coming out for about a month (probably less if you take Magnus’ radio-silence into account at the beginning of CoG)
-> the coming out happens after several interactions over a bit longer amount of time
-> Magnus and Alec have two interactions before Alec asks him out (one of those he’s mostly unconscious), they kiss after the third interaction and they start dating after the fourth

What happened in the show is practically that the elements of ‘start dating’ and ‘coming out’ got exchanged for another. The coming out happens first, the dating comes now with the second season. 

Is the TV-show the non-plus ultra perfect portrayal of a coming out-story? 
- No. 
Would it be good to portray a secret relationship and the struggles that come with it for a lot of LGBTQ+ people?
- Sure, but the show made a decision against it, nothing wrong with that either.
Had they decided to go with that, should they have gone with the stuff from the books?
- No.

Now: The secret relationship from the books and all those ‘funny scenes’

I take it the scenes that come to mind are the hickey-scene, the ‘you’re just that friendly to everyone?’-scene, the fearless rune-scene …?

They aren’t funny.

In these scenes Alec gets played up as being unreasonably scared of being outed while everybody just rolls their eyes like ‘Duh? We knew that from the first book. Chill, dude. And duh, you are so dating Magnus, we know that, too.’

What is thrown under the bus here that:
a) your sexuality is a very private matter and is not there to be discussed in public, same goes for a possible relationship
b) coming out is fucking scary because after you did it, you can’t take it back and it can blow into proportions you hadn’t imagined before 
-> you can have the most supportive parents and everything, being scared to come out is still legitimate and I think we can all agree that Alec is kind of lacking that ‘supportive surrounding’
c) outing someone or teasing them for being in the closet or keeping a relationship secret is down-right shitty - yes, Alec is a bad liar, but that doesn’t make it okay to use it against him in that context
d) being the “out-part” of a secret relationship does not make it okay to judge the other for denying the relationship while almost having a panic attack, especially when they know about the other’s reasons for not coming out before entering in the relationship 

So no, those scenes aren’t funny because making the legitimate fear of something into a joke is disregarding that fear and not okay. 

I’ve seen posts going around for April Fools’ Day on tumblr, reminding people to never out yourself falsely or outing a closeted friend on that day as a joke.
CC pretty much did that at least two times.  

Blacklist ‘final paper’.

If you want to talk about specific scenes in detail, feel free to ask, this post would just get way too long if I did that here. If there are other funny scenes, you thought about, lt me know as well. 


Carol is very important to me, in many ways.

First and foremost, it is a beautiful story and a near perfect combination of acting, directing, writing, set decoration, costuming, and every other piece of the puzzle. Never have I seen a more poised or exquisite love story, bar none.

So it is important because it is, for lack of a better word, good.

It is also important because it tells an excluded class of people that their stories are important and beautiful and worth telling.

This is the first American movie I’ve seen in theaters featuring two gay women. When I was 17, 18, 19, I, in secret, watched Imagine Me and You and Loving Annabelle and Kissing Jessica Stein and The L Word and The Real L Word and every other cult lesbian film/tv show I could find. As I consumed them, I jumped at the sound of footsteps or a knock at my door, terrified of anyone finding out I liked women, because I knew it wasn’t “normal.” If it were normal, there would have been portrayals of it in mainstream media. But there weren’t, and I was terrified of being “not normal.” So I collected these films privately; I studied these works as though my life depended on it, grateful to finally have something validate my existence.

Few of them were good. But at the time, I preferred a poor film that I felt included in to a great film that told me I was insignificant, inhuman, irrelevant to the big stories. Simply omitting gays from major films that weren’t about gay rights told me that I had no place in the stories of our world. They told me I was undeserving of screentime. From that, I extrapolated that I was undeserving of “screentime” in life, as well. That I lacked value. That I didn’t exist, or shouldn’t exist, because if I had value at all, I would see myself reflected on a screen.

Movies are important. Representation is important. They do make an impact, and they should grow and evolve as our society grows and evolves to reflect what we actually look like. Carol is important to me because it’s a step in this direction. It’s not a cult lesbian film. It’s a film for everyone, a film with well-known and extremely talented actresses, a film that tells me that my story has value. A great film that tells me that my story has value. That would be enough for me, as Blue is the Warmest Color was, but more than that, it’s a great, mainstream, Oscar-nominated, American film that tells me that my story has value. That is something I’ve never seen, so for Carol, I’m grateful.

Also, again, a simply astonishing film that everyone should go see.

Thank you for your time.