i re-made it because i hated the old one

Choosing Betty, Part 2 (Jughead x Reader)

Part 1

Imagine: After your boyfriend, James, ditches your poetry reading, you are heartbroken. Not more heartbroken than when Jughead Jones chose Betty Cooper over you, though. You prepare for your performance and notice a familiar face in the crowd.

You texted James a halfhearted excuse about not feeling well before driving home. After a lot of frustrated screaming into your pillow, and glaring at a picture of you and Jughead you kept on your desk, you began to prepare for your poetry reading that night. You shimmied out of your too-tight cheer uniform, glad to be free of the itchy polyester. You wiped off your gaudy makeup and undid your uncomfortable hairdo.

You re-did your makeup to how you normally preferred to wear it, and got dressed in some of your normal clothing. When filing through your closet, you found an old flannel Jughead had lent you one day when a teacher had gotten on your ass about the dress code. For some reason, you took it off the hanger and put it on over your ensemble. Just because I hate him doesn’t mean I can’t exploit his decent fashion sense, you reasoned. Plus, it smelled like him and it made you feel angry which was a good emotion to feel when reading poetry.

Finally, you rifled through your notebook to do a quick run-through of your poem. You’d originally opted to read a poem about new love and romance, expecting James to be in the audience. With the safety of knowing you’d be reading to completely unfamiliar ears, you decided to go with something a bit more provocative.

“To the boy who doesn’t love me back,” you read in a sarcastic voice to the crowd of young adults sipping cocktails in the audience. “I hope your girlfriend doesn’t mind that I’m wearing your shirt right now,” you ad-libbed, waggling your eyebrows suggestively. Some people in the audience gasped and laughed.

You began to perform a poem you had sloppily composed the night Jughead had admitted his feelings for Betty to you. It started off very angry. Full of crude analogies about all the ways you’d like to see him suffer. The creativity of the prose made audience members chuckle and cheer for you.

Then, it got emotional. You reflected on the inner pain you felt, relating it to metaphors demonstrating loneliness and rejection in a way only a metaphor could. You could have heard a pin drop in the silence of the bar.

Finally, it ended how you felt right now–confusion. You still cared about Jughead and wanted him to be happy, but some part of you wanted him to be heartbroken and run back to you, and another part of you didn’t want anything to do with him at all. You left the poem on a question. The audience snapped enthusiastically at your cleverness. You smiled and bowed. Maybe today was a good day, after all.

The house lights went up to help guide the next performer–a cellist toting a heavy instrument case–to the stage.

That was when you saw the faces among the crowd; all cool, hipster-like twenty-somethings, smiling at you in admiration for your performance.

And in the back of the room, leaning against the doorway, a dark-haired teenage boy with a crown-shaped beanie.

Your stomach dropped.

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I am re reading one of my old fics for inspo and I can’t believe I wrote a dramatic rain scene and then made fun of myself for doing so in it lmao

Zayn hates the rain. Seriously. It is pouring, smacking against the pavement angrily. There is no way his backpack isn’t going to get soaked in that, because it takes at least ten minutes to get back to his dorm. Thankfully he can leave his art in the studio so it doesn’t end up ruined by the rain pellets.

He kind of hates himself at the moment, because even though it had been raining when he left his dorm, he hadn’t thought about changing into boots instead of  his converses, he didn’t bring an umbrella or even a thick enough jacket to somewhat keep him dry. He is wearing a jean jacket over a hoodie, and seriously, what had he been thinking?

His phone vibrates, and fuck, he didn’t think about that either. He shoves it under his hoodie, securing it under the waistband of his jeans so maybe, he prays, that it doesn’t get ruined too.

Zayn runs, trying to dodge the drops of rain that are coming down like bullets. He needs to start working out or something because his lungs are on fire, legs aching by the time he spots his dorm building. A warm shower would be so nice, and his bed, oh god his bed –

Zayn fumbles to find his keys, slowing down to a jog as he tugs them out of his backpack. Yeah, everything is soaked, his notebooks starting to curl around the edges, the cardboard covering his pencils turning a dark shade.

“Zayn, wait up!”

Liam is running towards him, just as wet as him. Zayn squints his eyes because it is dark and the rain is messing with his vision. He really needs to work on not seeing Liam in everything, everyone.  

It is Liam though, hair matted to his forehead and a blue cotton shirt clinging to his chest. At least he was smart enough to wear boots, but he isn’t wearing a jacket and it is freezing, so they are both equally out of their minds.

“What the fuck, Liam. It is pouring – what are you doing here?”

“Have to ask you something,” Liam gets out.  He is out of breath, and Zayn isn’t sure why, because Liam could probably run laps around this campus without getting too tired.

“So you were waiting in the rain? Do you know how to text?”

“Tried that. I have been calling too, but you’ve kind of been ignoring me.” He grimaces at himself before adding, “And I was waiting in my truck.” He nudges his head towards the parking lot, where Zayn can almost make out the shape of the truck.

As much as Zayn hates the rain coming down on him, his feet are rooted to the ground, gaping at Liam.  He considers turning around and just going inside, but Liam looks serious. It has been two days since Liam last tried texting him, and Zayn had thought he had given up again.

“Why did you stop talking to me?” he says before Zayn can decide what to do. Do they really have to do this here? “I need to know why you stopped talking to me.”

“Liam, what – “

“Zayn it’s important,” he interrupts, sounding just as desperate as he looks. “I just need to know.”

Liam’s busy schedule is clearly starting to get to him because he is insane.

“You won’t talk to me, but you’ve given Soph all of these drawings of me. I found one in my car, and that night at your sisters - I don’t know Zayn, maybe I shouldn’t try to figure out how you feel by the look on your face, but you’re not really giving me a choice.”

It seems like Liam can’t stop the flood of words rushing past his lips and he looks apologetic when he pauses, taking a deep breath before he continues.

“Niall told me,” Liam goes on, slower this time, not waiting any longer for Zayn to respond. “About how you brought me home drunk the night of the cupid party. Does it have to do with that?”

Zayn glares, finding his voice. “Did I stop talking to you because you were drunk? No.”

“How about me telling you I love you?”

Zayn stares at him, mouth falling open. He was sure Liam had been drunk enough that he could get away with pretending Liam never told him that, that he never heard Liam tell him that he felt the same. Feels the same.

Liam comes closer, closing the space between them in just two steps. Zayn can just make out the scent of his cologne through the smell of rain and he wants to press his face into Liam’s chest to comfort the hurt seeping through him.

“I didn’t know if I did or not, but the expression on your face confirms that I did.” Liam huffs out a breath, a ghost of smile on his lips but it isn’t a happy smile, really. “It’s true, you know. I meant it, in case you didn’t think so because I was drunk when I said it. I just didn’t mean to tell you that way though.”

“Did you come to tell me in the pouring rain? Like we are in some romance movie?”

“I am a romantic,” Liam grins. It slips off his face though when he realizes Zayn isn’t going to laugh at that. The only kind of laugh Zayn could muster right now would be full of tears or frustration. “I mean, that isn’t why I planned on coming here. Like I said, I have to know -

“Go home Liam,” Zayn says tiredly, turning around to unlock the door so he can finally go inside. The clothes sticking to his skin are heavy, dragging him down worse than the feeling in his chest is.

Voltron Fan Base is Annoying as Hell

I took my first steps into the Voltron tags because I like the show. Not sure what I expected, but what I didn’t expect was the first post I saw to be hate towards the show because they’re not putting a gay romance in there. I know the show differs from the old version with characters and which robot they were the pilot of. There are good things and bad thing about the new one, but apparently the voltron side of tumblr is angry that Keith and lance aren’t together. Oh my god a show didn’t put in a gay romance made by random people on the internet of two characters that aren’t gay? Wow we should all hate them. I just don’t understand it. Maybe we’ll see klance in the future even though it will most likely never happen. Stay butthurt you “SJW’s”

Ace Attorney Sprite Edit Requests (Open Now!)

Hey pals! We’re a new blog with nothing to lose, so we’re opening requests from you guys.

Shit we’ll do:

  • Crossing two or more people to form a weird hybrid (Ex. Gant and Mia hybrid)
  • Palette edits. We’re experts in this (ex. Making Ema’s hair red instead of brown)
  • Hate the way a sprite looks because of a specific thing? We can most likely fix that (Ex. Lotta’s sprite edit and the Fixing of Sal)
  • Face edits. Want an old boy to look younger? We got you, pal. (Ex. One time I made a younger version of Von Karma and now I think I can do everything) We can also just fuck around with a persons face for a while if you want and see what happens *Cannot confirm that I can make a young boy older

Shit we’ll consider but you probably shouldn’t request these because the chance of us doing these are 50/50:

  • Making a sprite of a character from a different thing (Ex. Griffin, Waluigi, and Guy Fieri) *Don’t get your hopes up. We’re not talented enough for this yet. We try very hard though.

Shit we won’t do:

  • OCs. We’re not doing those.
  • Really difficult edits. (ex: deleting a persons entire coat. I’m not in the fucking mood to do that ever. I already did it once with Middle Aged Von Karma and I will not be doing it again)

Also, this post was written by the one who goes by Nutman, however we’re both willing to do these requests. Also along with that, we can’t guarantee which one of us will do the thing you request. 

Things To Keep In Mind When Requesting:

  • Please for the love of god don’t be overly specific. Like for a hybrid edit please just be like “Hey can you do a hybrid of Larry and Angel Starr” instead of being like “Hey can you do a hybrid where Phoenix’s eyes are Gregory’s and he’s wearing Von Karma’s cravat”
  • If you get overly specific we probably will do the opposite of what you said because we’re assholes who don’t follow directions
  • We hardly ever use AAI sprites. 
  • We can say no to a request. We probably won’t, but we do have the power to say no. 
  • Don’t get your hopes up. Literally do not. 

cabezotapequeno  asked:

Top 10 visual novels

Oooo I like this one! Long post incoming, I wanna break down why I like all these games!

This kinda list is one that changes a lot in my head, and I’m sure when I finish some of the VN’s I’m playing right now the feelings will change (I’m currently playing Root Letter and Root Double)

10. Analogue: A Hate Story and Hate Plus

 These two VN’s were some of the earlier VN’s I played when I started getting into them. I was interested in them because they’re created by Christine Love, who made the really interesting game called Digital: A Love Story, which was spread a lot a few years ago due to its unique presentation and how well it captured the life of old school computing. The game had some rough design choices though, as did the game that followed it, so I really wanted to see what she could do with these ones.

You play as an independent investigator that must discover the truth behind an abandoned colony ship that has seemingly degraded to a culture similar to the Joseon Dynasty. The two games not only give you a really in depth and clear picture of a unique society through wonderfully written story logs, it also gives you two really well written A.I. characters that you grow attached to, and their outlooks really give you different ways to think about the story. 

I’m not much of a social issue minded person, but if you’re into stories that talk about patriarchal society and LGBT issues, you probably will also be interested in these games. Games that try to tackle this tend to hit it or miss it for me, but this one definitely handle them well in my opinion.

These two games would be higher on my list, but they’re a little short for my liking. Still really good though!

9. Hatoful Boyfriend

A lot of people who have never played visual novels have heard of this game and generally people see it purely as a joke game. And to be fair, it IS that. You date hot bird boys, after all, and are the only human going to an all pigeon high school. But it’s also a lot more, and it’s one of those experiences that can be more and more rewarding depending on how far you actually want to go into it. I sorta don’t wanna spoil too much on what I mean by that, but let’s just say there’s more going on than you’d suspect.

The more into visual novels you are, the more you will probably appreciate this game, cuz it really satirizes the medium in a wonderful way, especially romance ones.

8.  Katawa Shoujo

This was my gate way drug to visual novels. At the time this game came out, I had no interest in anime cuz I only was ever made aware of the stupid parts of it and its culture. When this game came out, it was described to me as “Cripple Fucker Simulator”. So, I thought it’d be hilarious to play it and laugh at the ridiculous stuff what I imagined was an incredibly stupid and fetishistic porn game.

But as I played, the realization slowly built on me. This was actually a well written story. This was actually a game I had emotional investment in. It’s a game that made me sob. It made me love the characters, it made me laugh, and it made me care so much about it. And this is when I realized I was a giant idiot the whole time.

You play as a normal guy, whom is about to be confessed to by the girl he has a massive crush on. But tragedy strikes as a dormant heart condition becomes active, pretty much destroying his normal life. He ends up having to go to a school for disabled students, since he needs to be constantly monitored by doctors so he doesn’t, well, die. At the school he forms friendships with other characters suffering from health problems like him. The game could have gone the easy route and just made all the characters nothing but their disability, but their disabilities really are just an aspect of their life, rather than a part of their personality. You more get to see how these issues affect these interesting characters. Also Kenji is there too and he’s super ridiculous.

There’s not a lot I can say that hasn’t really been said at this point. It’s a really wonderful game, and while it probably isn’t the best VN I’ve ever played, it did something few VN’s have done since. It stole my heart.

7. Danganronpa 1 and 2

Another one that’s hard to talk about without spoiling, and hard to say anything that’s really not been said already. This is one of the series’ I think about when I think about the weirdness and hyperactivity that Japanese games are able to capture versus other parts of the world. These games are pretty much a faster paced and more ridiculous (Sometimes to a fault) Ace Attorney. The trials are all a ton of fun to play through, and when you don’t take the plot too seriously, the whole series in general is a really fun ride with plenty of twists and turns, humor, and painful moments of sadness as your favorite character dies. Definitely at least check these two games out, if not the whole series. 

6. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney

This is one of my favorite game franchises of all time. These games, especially the original trilogy, are classics. The concept of playing a lawyer in a game is a pretty cool one, but it’s one of those concepts that could have suffered from being a more over complicated simulation rather than a more lighthearted and fun experience. By this I mean, it’s sort of the difference between Atlus’ Action Surgery game Trauma Center and The Software Toolwork’s in depth surgery sim, Life & Death. Not that there would have been anything inherently wrong with an indepth simulation, but the approach Ace Attorney adopted is far more appealing to most people and sorta handles its self better when becoming a long running series.

Every game is full of memorable characters and stories, and some really fun point and click adventure gameplay with really fun courtroom cases. I get just as excited with each new game as I did the first one, and it’s simply because this series is a ton of fun, and should definitely not be missed.

Also Capcom bring over The Great Ace Attorney games pls I need more to play

5. The Fruit of Grisaia

At first, I didn’t know why this game had such a massive appeal. The beginning half of the game is fun, but eventually it feels a little tropey and not as memorable. Still really entertaining given the characters’ oddball personalities, but I began to wonder if there was more. And oh boy, there sure is.

The first half of the game lulls you into a calm sense of security, like this is gonna be a mostly fun romp, but when you get into each of the wonderfully written routes, the curtain is pulled back and you really see a deeper and sadder side to these characters who seem so conventionally silly. I can’t talk too much about what I mean here, but it’s a real fuckin emotional roller coaster.

There’s not much in the way of choice or interaction in this game, but it makes up for it by having some widely varied routes with a well written narrative. Also some really excellent presentation. Definitely give this a look!

It also does come in lewd and not lewd versions, depending on your preference. 

4. Fate/Stay Night

There’s a reason this game spawned off such a massive franchise. While the game has plenty of flaws (hit or miss artwork, some really ridiculously written and out of place porn scenes, a main character that can say some INCREDIBLY stupid shit like “People die when they are killed”, which even if that makes more sense in context it’s still very dumb), the setting and overall stories are incredibly written, and each route almost feels like a completely different game. I also didn’t realize it was possible for a visual novel to make action sequences so blood pumping, but with amazing description and great sound effects, each action moment in the game is incredibly engaging.

It’s also the kinda set up that gives it infinite possibilities, especially with the servants and the general concept of the Magi War, where mages are fighting over the Holy Grail every bunch of years. There’s a lot of other stuff going on too, plenty of twists and turns and wonderful moments with the well written characters who aren’t our hero. If you can look past the bizarre porn scenes, this is a really compelling game that has stood high in the world of visual novels for a long time, and if you end up liking it you got gallons of media to consume to get more.

Also, make sure you save a lot, cuz you will probably die many times.

3. The Silver Case

I should confess that I haven’t completed this game, so there’s not a ton for me to talk about here storywise, but I have played a large portion of it. No other visual novel really looks or plays like this one does, and that shouldn’t be too surprising given Suda51′s well known style. The story is a bit confusing at times, and the puzzles can be frustrating, but my god you’ll be intrigued the whole time and you’ll really wanna solve the mystery of the game.

It has a really well done HD remake as well, so this one is very easy to play despite its age. I’d try explaining its premise but I don’t think I can do it better than it’s steam page, plus I’m sorta exhausted.

2. VA-11 HALL-A

I originally saw this game when it was made for a cyberpunk game jam in 2014. I’m a sucker for unique game concepts, and a game where you play as a bartender really caught my interest. The super stylistic appearance of the game, as well as its unique setting, really caught my interest. I kept an eye on this game as the years passed on, waiting to see the full version of this.

Finally, in 2016, the full thing came out. And it was pretty much everything I hoped it’d be.

I really enjoy the kinds of stories or games that can pull an interesting narrative out of an unconventional place. In this game’s case, you play as a bartender in a dystopian city that’s going through major turmoil, as corporations ruin people’s lives and a Big Brother type police force watches everyone’s move. People are fighting for change in a tumultuous world… but you’re not one of those people. Instead, you’re the person in the background, watching these events unfold, through the news and through the patrons you talk to. This game really captures that feeling when you wake up in the morning, when life seems normal, and you suddenly hear about all the disaster in the world that you can’t really do anything about.

On top of giving you this unconventional and beautifully done setting, it tells a heartfelt story of a person living with a past they can’t really change. Jill is a really wonderful protagonist, and I loved learning more and more about her and her reasons for being a bartender as the game went on. And it does it all with sick tunes, and a gorgeous PC-98 inspired style that makes it an unforgettable ride. 

Well, at least if you’re me. This is one of those kinda games that just appeals to every sensibility I have, so my love for it is very strong. That being said…

1. Steins;gate and Steins;gate 0

…It is not Steins;gate. Steins;gate is the one visual novel that’s forever gonna be my favorite. This was probably the second visual novel I got into, and boy was it one hell of an eye opener to what the medium has to offer.

Time travel stories are some of my favorites, but they are also very hard to get so right. S;G succeeds though, using just the right amount of technobabble and believable (if untrue) sounding science that you get immersed in its interpretation of the idea. World lines are a super cool concept and I wish more time travel stuff explored them, since a lot of them really just wanna focus on paradoxes or more linear interpretations. That’s fine of course, but part of what makes this story is how it doesn’t really have to worry about that. It’s more about the straight up cause and effect of time travel, and how your changes can cause things you’d never expect.

Okabe Rintarou is probably my favorite protagonist in anything too. He’s not only really funny and memorable, but he goes through soooooooo fucking much in the two games, and his character develops in such a strong and tangible way that’s just wonderful. And the amount of shit he has to do to get the true endings for these games makes me really respect him… and also sorta hope the guy can catch a break and a smile after all that.

While the main S;G is better than 0, I think both are really good together and give you a complete picture of the story and its setting. I can’t recommend these two enough!

This was probably a lot more writing than you expected but, I like talking about these kinda things. Thank you for the ask!

A Lustreless Vision - Chapter 1 - renanjaeger - 終わりのセラフ | Owari no Seraph | Seraph of the End [Archive of Our Own]
An Archive of Our Own, a project of the Organization for Transformative Works
By Organization for Transformative Works

Chapters: 12/?
Fandom: 終わりのセラフ | Owari no Seraph | Seraph of the End
Rating: Teen And Up Audiences
Warnings: Creator Chose Not To Use Archive Warnings
Relationships: Hyakuya Mikaela/Hyakuya Yuuichirou
Additional Tags: mikayuu, AU, cliché coffee shop thing im sorry, but not that cliché, uni students, love at first sight almost, Fluff, slight angst

AU where everyone has grey eyes until they fall in love. Yuu is worried about ending up alone like his mother and hates the colour grey with passion. One cold night he decides to go for a walk and ends up at a coffee shop at an ungodly hour, while he is there he meets a person with the most beautiful blue eyes he has ever seen. The only problem is due to the colour of their eyes it means they are already in love with someone. Yuu starts to wonder if he will ever find anyone who will bring life to his dull grey eyes.

So I don’t know if anyone still wants to read this fanfic, but I’ve decided to continue it. I’ve deleted the last few chapters ready to re-write them since the old chapters were rushed and I hated them which made me quit. I’m not going to abandon this fic again because I really enjoy writing it, the next chapters will be up soon :)

Re: the new SAP

A new video has just been uploaded to the Super Amazing Project channel. This makes me sad and here’s why:

I know that Dan and Phil haven’t uploaded a new video there in about a year and probably didn’t really intend to make any new SAP episodes but I always held onto hope that one day they would make a few seasonal specials or something like that (which Dan actually mentioned in the last SAP episode). Which is why I hate the fact that some random people are now going to be posting videos on that channel.

The Super Amazing Project was by far my favorite channel on youtube and still is because I regularly re-watch those old episodes. But now the channel just seems… (for a lack of a better word) tainted.

I just don’t understand why MyDamnChannel couldn’t have just made another channel and posted those new videos there. I watched SAP because of Dan and Phil and now I’ll be unsubcribing (and yes, I’ve given the first two new videos a chance but I just didn’t enjoy them).

Watching the new episodes felt like watching an episode of Friends where all the cast members have been replaced. Yes, the premise might be the same, but it’s just not the show you used to know and love.

clueingforlooks  asked:

hi Silent (lol sorry I don't know how to call you), I'm sorry to bother you but I just saw you last post regarding something Benedict said and if it's not too much trouble could you please explain to me or show me this interview? Is something that happened today? I only got home and I'm still catching up with today's news (please answer in private). thanks <3

Hi! Ha, good question, re the name. For short people often call me SA, which I rather like. :) I didn’t reblog the article because I don’t like it, but cumberbuddy’s tumblr is where I read it, if that helps! Basically it’s another one of those suuuper obnoxious interviews where the interviewer won’t shut up about female hysteria and the craziness of the Cumberbitches (hate that term), and how every heart out there broke when Benedict announced his engagement, blah blah blah. The same old stuff, and who even knows how much spin the interviewer himself put on, but he made Benedict sound like an idiot fratboy somehow, which he never does otherwise. He’s been back and forth across the ocean at least half a dozen times in the past week or two and I’m hoping some of this is at least hyperactive sleep deprivation on his part, but yeah - he doesn’t come off well in it. On top of which, he added his own explicit assertion that he believes that Sherlock and Irene hooked up after the rescue in Pakistan, and I just hate it. He doesn’t know what the writers have planned, and it’s hard to believe that an actor who has so clearly and obviously depicted Sherlock being depressed as hell about John getting married, bringing himself back to life after he’d flatlined just because he believed John to be in danger because his horrible wife, shooting someone and freely taking the blame and the punishment, all just to make John’s life a little easier. It just feels like he either a) doesn’t know his character at all, and based on his superlative level of talent I would argue that to be impossible, b) that he’s b) suffering from amnesia and doesn’t know what he acted, c) is lying outright, or d) is having some sort of weird phase potentially related to having played someone gay and now outing his relationship/engagement and wanting to distance himself from Sherlock in some way or something? Either way, I hate it. 

And I am sick to death of stupid interviewers depicting us all as Bieber nuts, essentially. At the beginning of the interview, the guy makes it sound like Benedict has absolutely no talent, citing the box office flop that was The Fifth Estate and such, making us sound like mindless idiots who don’t know the difference between talent and the “thrill” of jumping on a popular bandwagon. Quite a large number of us were fans of Benedict long before he was super-famous and we liked him for his incredible, versatile, absolute ability to get into a character’s head and skin. We didn’t like him because he has a silly name or because everyone else did. Okay - some people did, and those are the fans who annoy the rest of us within the fandom, too! It’s already been over a year since people have been saying, “okay, ffs, enough with the making fun of his name”. There ARE crazy teens in the fandom, and there are regular, non-crazy teens in the fandom. There are crazy women (and men!) in their twenties and thirties and forties and upwards who cherished semi-delusional hopes that they would, in fact, get to marry Benedict one day. And there are the rest of us. One cannot put all the fans of any person or series/universe in a box and say, “all of these people are this” and then repeat it until people like Benedict see the mere surface of it and start to believe and spout their own theories about it without actually doing their homework. This is what disappoints me: Benedict is such a smart guy and so far I don’t think that the fame has gotten to him, but he NEEDS to do his research about his own fans!!! He is going to lose us if he keeps this up. Right now, most of us like him because a) he’s extremely, unusually, extraordinarily talented, b) he also seems to be, judging from 99% of his interviews and articles, an incredibly great human being, and c) he’s also very attractive in a pleasantly unusual, non-stereotypical way. In that order. Whatever happens, I’ll always be a champion of his talent. But it’s nicer when it comes from someone you believe to also be a great human being, and right now he’s on the verge of losing some people on that score. :/