i love siouxsie

Just wanted to point out that “The skies tumbling from your eyes” and “The dye, a blood red setting sun” always make me think about Will’s and Hannibal’s eyecolors… so yas, do we really need further proof that they’re in love? Nope.
But do we really want it? FUCK YEAH BITCH, BRING IT ON!

Modern goth vs 80′s goth revisited

Wowee has this ever been a ride. So about three year ago i wrote a post on here about the goth subculture and how its changed and how young goths are getting into it now and some peoples disdain for goth music and yadda yadda.

weeeeell for the most part it went over quite well, i got good feedback from both young and elder goths and all seemed good. BUT  add three more years to my goth experience (almost had my goth card revoked once but its all good now) some of my opinions on the subculture have changed, while some have just matured a little and today i’m going to talk about that post i made three years ago and clear the air yet again

So originally the post i made was me siding with young people in the subculture about their feelings on goth music and damn was it poorly written. As in super disorganized and hard to follow (my mind can get pretty wild at times and the BPD makes it hard to organize my thoughts)

Now i never said that i fully agree with kids not respecting goth music nor did i divulge whether i personally enjoyed the music myself (I do btw, i enjoy it a lot) Instead i tried to explain why kids dont like it. I actually talked to some young goths about it and took polls to see how young goths had discovered the subculture and found out that there are a whole lot of goths under twenty who didnt discover it through music.

sooooo through all this i came to the conclusion that many young goths dont like the music because of its outdated sound. What i mean by this is its not the 80′s anymore and most kids dont listen to 80′s music and its not really what theyre used to. I did not say that goth music is irrelevant to young goths!! NOPE. But it also wasnt made very clear what i did mean.

What i meant was bands like Siouxsie and the Banshees are no longer “relevant” with YOUNG NON goth people (being irrelevant doesnt mean you suck people it just means you arent popular anymore) I love Siouxsie but my seventeen year old sister would have no clue who she was if it werent for me. So if you are just a typical young teen who takes an interest in goth, chances are you arent going to know who Siouxsie is right off the bat either.(SHOCKING!)  You’ll probably have to do the basic research first. like googling “goth bands.” So YES, Siouxsie along with all the other great goth bands of the 80′s are still perfectly relevant in the goth subculture today, but they are not as relevant to young people outside of it or to the young goths just discovering the subculture.

So thats basically what the original post was about and i hope i made my thoughts a little more clear here. Now on to the things i SHOULD have included – The music is important!! Goth wouldnt exist without it!! Its important to respect the music and you might enjoy the subculture a lot more if you give it a listen.– I really should have included that originally.

But some of my opinions havent changed. I still think that goths should be a little more accepting when it comes to experimenting with goth music genres, and i think we really should promote new goth bands a lot more, i HAVE seen this happening in the past few years but i think its something we should continue to do even more.

I also think that its important to just be respectful to each other and patient with goths who are new to the subculture. Dont overwhelm them or call them poseurs. Also young goths, babybats whatever you want to call yourself, LISTEN TO EXPERIENCED GOTHS, when a goth wants to give you some advice or recommend a band, dont scream “ELITIST!” and cry that no one accepts you, been there, done that, it gets you nowhere. Just listen to them, most are really good people who just want to help you.

We cant deny that goth has changed significantly since the 80′s and god knows we’re probably never going to agree on a set definition for goth or what it or isnt. But we should at least make an effort to try to get along and listen to each other and discuss things that affect the subculture.

And pretty please, can people stop bringing up that article that butchers my original post with bad commentary. I still dont know who wrote it and it would have been a lot more mature if they had personally messaged me before writing an article to criticize me.

Thank you to all who have been following me since before that post and to the many who followed me because of it. And thank you to the people who took the time to read this post as well.

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