some ole bullshit (again)
AIGHT ladies and gents and everyone, you’ve probably seen this twitter post basically showing Xander Berkeley (Gregory) messaging a 19 year old and whatnot. I’m not going to explain it bc i want u to read it for yourselves. This is going to be a long-ass post so hold on tight. I just got home from Cuba, and I was without internet for a week so I’ve missed 98% of the shit thats gone down this week.
So to start I want to talk about the messages sent between Xander and Karma (that’s her twitter name)
1.) One of the big things taken out of context here is the fact that during one of the messages, there was a comment made that, if not read correctly, made it seem as if Xander were a pedophile. (which he is not) That is a really fucking big accusation and shouldn’t be taken lightly at all. Other than that the messages speak for themselves, although Karma posted screenshots as well as a 2 min video, which u can find on her page. It’s some pretty solid evidence, and I’ve analyzed it and can’t find anything that would make it seem fake.
2) My biggest problem with this is that Xander is, ya know, married with two kids (both girls) so the whole situation is extra fucked. The girl he messaged is my age (19) which constitutes as an adult, but theres still somewhat of a power inbalance with the fact that he’s a celebrity and, ya know, 61. Legally there’s nothing wrong, but socially…yeah. There’s a lot of things in the messages that I’m not even going to go over bc the link is above.
3) Steven Ogg did post a tweet defending Xander, but deleted it. It was most likely a knee-jerk reaction to seeing his friend getting hate, so hopefully he realized what was happening and saw all the messages and whatnot. Does that make him “human scum” or “trash?” no, it doesn’t you fucking freaks. Jesus.
So in terms of the raw evidence/messages, that’s about all I have to say. In my opinion the dude is fucked and shouldn’t have done what he did, however, the way the situation was handled is an entirely different story, which I’m going to talk about below. It’s a real shame, too, because Xander and I have interacted plenty of times and I never got any sort of creepy/pervy vibe from him (then again, I never got any weird vibes from the 19 year old who sexually abused me when i was 15) (which now that i think about it means he was a pedophile) so yeah.
Anywho, for the next part of this - this doesn’t really have to do with this situation in particular, but something that social media (twitter especially) has made a “trend” of sorts - publicly “exposing” people (mainly celebrities) via the internet. The situation with Xander just made me want to talk a bit about it because it’s happened so many times its seems, and it’s something that really, really worries me about people (younger people especially) and social media.
In no way am I giving a free pass to people who do shit like what Xander did. I just personally feel like there’s this terrible mentality that we have to share anything and everything with the world via social media, and in this case it’s something that should have been kept private. This should not concern anyone other than Xander, his wife, Karma, and possibly Xander’s employer. Mainly due to two reasons 1) the sake of the victim and their mental healthy 2) the fact that when information if put out to be read by thousands of people, you have no clue what the context is, where it’s coming from, what could be someones interpretation of the situation not the truth, etc. you’ve also inadvertently drawn in people such as cast members - Lauren, Norman, JDM, Austin, Seth, Christian, etc. - who might not want to be involved in stuff like this. 3) once the information is out there, you have absolutely no control over who see’s it and where it goes. You’ve forfeited the right to privacy. You no longer ‘own’ what you post. There are already articles being written about the situation that Karma had nothing to do with, and this could be really, really dangerous for a lot of the parties involved when it comes to what the truth really is, and who is affected, mainly because now this shit is going to follow you.
The next thing, and I think this has to do with the TWD fandom in particular. And this is just my opinion.
For the love of God stop stanning celebrities
The TWD fandom has a huge problem with this shit, and I think its part of why the reaction to all this has become one giant mob mentality ie. ur either “with” or “against” and anyone who disagrees is “trash.” That is NOT how situations like this need to be handled, and another result of why situations like these should be left private. Celebrities are not ur personal toys to project your ideals on. They are human beings. And at the end of the day, what they do will not effect your life whether you think it will or not. In no way am I saying that you have to support an artists behavior should they be homophobic, racist, etc. but you have to understand that you cannot forfeit their right to make mistakes or do fucked up shit just because you enjoy their work/like some of the things they say. One of the biggest fucking things I’ve seen is people trying to count how many TWD cast members are unfollowing Xander, as if that’s somehow a correct gage of how the cast feels about him. As if you know him more personally than Steven or Austin or Lauren. (news flash: you don’t. I’ve talked to him a bunch and hell not even I knew this shit was coming) As if the whole thing is just some fun spectacle for you to watch cause ur bored that the shitshow that is TWD isn’t back on until October. Some of ya’ll need to understand that these are REAL people. This is the same fandom that bodyshamed Alanna, and ran JOSH off social media for no reason at all. So you’ll have to forgive me if I’m not a little bit exasperated with TWD fans in general.
So yeah. Long post, but I felt like I needed to say some things about the whole situation. The whole thing is a clusterfuck and I think what happened is wrong on both sides. (Karma is an adult, but like I said, to me 19 is still socially a child) I think at the end of the day this should have been dealt with privately, but I wish Karma all the best. If you want to message her on twitter to ask questions she said that she’s open - just be respectful.
I’m going to tag some people bc I want them to see this. I’m also probably not really returning to the TWD fandom (if I do it will be strictly Negan or Simon material) I’m focusing more on Transformers, Attack on Titan, DC, Marvel, and some other stuff.
(if u want me to remove ur tag let me know, mainly bc i know some people dont like to be tagged in drama) if u want to add things or share ur thoughts go ahead
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