i have so many sam mary feels

Take It or Leave It


This is something new I’m trying where the reader is a Lawyer for Tony Stark but after the Avengers get back together after the Accords Ross is still coming after them. Tony Stark wants the reader to get Ross off their backs but what happens when Ross decides to play a little dirty? 

Originally posted by mcudailybr

“What is this, Tony?” Steve looked from the sheets in his hand.

“It’s a resume.” Steve stared at the man. “Y/N L/N, she’s my go to lawyer. When I met her she had only just started at her firm. She had just finished a case and was handing it in to Hayden Hughes, the Managing Partner at the firm, when I was in his office. Instead of taking me to a senior partner to sign with, he told me to sign with the girl. I’ve never regretted it.” 

Steve looked back at the paper. “So you trust her.” It wasn’t a question. 

“Listen, Rogers, if there’s anyone you can get you out of your predicament, shall we say, it’s her. Her record runs on a strictly win-only basis.” 

“She’s worth a shot, Steve. I may have only met her for twenty minutes once before when she was getting Tony to sign something but she’s a good kid. I don’t think I’ve seen anyone keep him in line as well as she did apart from Pepper.” Bruce looked up from his StarkPad to affirm Tony’s praise of the lawyer. 

“Hey! I’m not that bad!” 

Natasha spoke up from her quiet conversation with Clint. “You’re only proving his point, Stark. Besides, this L/N lady can’t be that bad; she’s from the best law firm in New York, Hughes and Wood, which means she came from Harvard, the best law university in the country. She’s used to working cases which have high stakes so she knows discretion is key.”

“What’s the worst that she can do? We’re already wanted fugitives.” Wanda quipped in her thick accent. 

“Call her, Stark. Let’s see what she can do.” 

“No need, Mr Rogers, Mr Stark already called.” You waltzed out the elevator bags scattering your body. “But more importantly, I brought the Chinese.”

“We’ve already eaten.” Steve turned to look at you front on.

You laughed. “Oh that would be a good joke if takeout menus weren’t scattered across the coffee table, members of your team weren’t holding the aforementioned menus, half the people didn’t perk up at the thought of food and I didn’t get all of your favourites.” 

“How would you know our favourites? You have never met us.” Wanda queried. Her distrust for you was clear on her face and through her body language.

“Then how can I do this, Miss Maximoff?” You plopped most of the bags on the floor apart from the food. “Crispy Shredded Beef for Mr Stark, Chicken Chow Mein for Dr Banner, Sweet and Sour Chicken Balls for Captain Rogers, Szechuan Spare Ribs for Miss Romanoff, King Prawn Chop Suey for Mr Barton, Honey Pork for Mr Odinson, House Special Foo Yung for Miss Maximoff, Special Crispy Noodles for Mr Vision, Singapore Mixed Meat Chow Mein for King T’Challa, Stir Fried Mushrooms in Black Bean Sauce for Mr Lang, Shrimp Chow Mein for Colonel Rhodes, Beef Shanghai Style for Mr Wilson, Chicken Singapore Noodles for Mr Parker, and finally Crispy Chicken Fillet and Roast Duck Fried Rice for Sergeant Barnes.” You finished as you placed the final tub on the table. 

“Oh that’s it. She’s my favourite lawyer.” Clint fist pumped the air dramatically. 

You raised an expectant eyebrow. “Oh, I’m sorry, did you miss the memo? I wasn’t done. I also got Prawn Crackers, Prawn Toast, Crispy Seaweed, Spring Rolls, Crispy Wontons, Salt and Pepper King Prawns, Honey Roast Spare Ribs, Yung Chow Fried Rice, Fried Dumplings, Deep Fried Crab Claws, Aromatic Crispy Duck and finally Fortune Cookies for a bit of fun.” 

“I think I’m in love.” Scott whispered, staring at you.

Ignoring the blubbering man, you pulled out a gift bag from the collection around your feet. “Sorry I couldn’t make your birthday Mr Stark, you know I had court the next day and you can’t arrive in court under influence.” 

“Sure thing, Bunny, no worries.” The man smirked as the nickname came out again. Apparently when you were working or thinking your nose scrunched up and Tony had made it his job to entitle you with a nickname because of it; he thought of Bunny to be a sufficient name. Either way, everybody was watching with rapt attention as Tony removed the black tissue paper from the top of the bag and pulled out the box inside. Tony’s face lit up at the sight, prompting the question. 

“What did Lawyer Lady get ya, Tin Man?” Sam asked expectantly, like a petulant child. 

Thankfully Vision saved him from his despair. “It appears to be a Glen Garioch 46 Year Old 1958 Whiskey, average pricing around $2,777.” 

Low whistles ran throughout the men of the room. 

“Vis! You don’t tell people the price of gifts!” Wanda gave an exclamatory hiss in said man’s direction causing him to frown in thought.

“Damn, L/N. That’s good whiskey.” Sam addressed you but his eyes were still on the bottle. 

“If you play your cards right, Mr Wilson, you might get gifts like that too.” 

He shot you a flirty smirk. “I’ll play you any cards you want if it gets you around here more often.” 

“I’m surrounded by people like Mr Stark, and more, all day, Mr Wilson, you’re going to have to do better than that.” You pouted slightly at the man, fully enjoying the little exchange. 

“I like her. I’ve been telling you for a long time, Birdbrain, you’ve got to up your game.” James permitted himself to join the conversation. 

“Damn, and here I was thinking the only person you like was you boyfriend: The Star-Spangled Man with a Plan.” 

“Didn’t you get anything for yourself, Miss L/N?” Peter asked you as he leant forward to get his noodles. 

“I got the Szechuan Spare Ribs. They’re the best thing on the menu.” You replied with a nod towards Natasha. 

“Amen to that, sestra!” She raised her beer to you and it reminded you of the other bag. 

You pulled out the beer that you had brought with you, alongside the Chinese. “Vy khotite drugogo?” You held out a bottle for her. 

“Ty govorish’ po-russki?” She looked surprised as she took the bottle. 

You nodded. “My parents were quite pushy and strict when I was younger. They made sure I knew as many languages as I could so I would be well prepared for life.” You took a can opener from your bag; you were starting to feel like Mary Poppins. Carefully popping the cap off your bottle, you offered the opener to Natasha and she gratefully accepted. 

“It’ll be fun to have another Russian speaker in the mix.” James stirred his food quietly before taking a bite. 

“The Three Musketeers.” Clint raised his bottle to us jokingly. 

“Any other talents we should know about, Sweetcheeks?” Sam wiggled his eyebrows and you simply gave him an unimpressed look. 

“Alongside Russian and English, I also speak French, German, Portuguese, Spanish, Latin, Italian, and Mandarin. Fluently. Mum made me do Ballet and Gymnastics whilst my Dad made me do martial arts whilst growing up. And I had to learn the piano at school.” You listed them off with an impressive air of nonchalance. 

“You have the skill set to join the Avengers.” Scott announced dramatically whilst chewing on his mushrooms. 

“And you clearly didn’t read the resume.” You quickly rebutted, taking a swig of your beer.

“What’s making you say that?” 

“Honestly, Mr Lang, it’s obvious.” You shook your head to yourself. “The only people who have read my resume in this room is Mr Stark about 9 years ago; Miss Romanoff, Mr Barton and Sergeant Barnes all have read it because they wanted to assess my threat level to themselves individually and the team, hence why they have been carrying most of the conversation as they are trying to evaluate me; Mr Vision will have read my resume due to the fact that he has never seen or interacted with a lawyer before; and finally Captain Rogers will have read my resume as he doesn’t trust me in the slightest right now, his feet are angled ever so slightly towards me showing interest, he hasn’t spoken at all to me apart from a defensive lie at the beginning and now he’s contemplating on how to talk to Tony about me after I’m gone without causing conflict. Tell me I’m wrong.” No one said anything. You stood up from your seat and gathered your bags. “Mr Stark, I presume I’m in the usual room?” 

Tony let out a tired sigh. “Yeah, Bunny. Please just call me Tony for the millionth time.”

“Of course, Tony.” The pair of you shared knowing smiles as you picked the bags up and disappeared down the hallway.

Dean germaphobe Winchester

Ok I’m seeing A LOT of hate towards Davy Perez for writing an OOC Dean in this episode….  @godshipsit @whyjm and I have written a few short posts but I feel the need to go into this a little more… I don’t have a big following so don’t know if this will reach many people but I feel like I need to throw in my 2 pence here because imo, this is NOT the case! 

Originally posted by itsokaysammy

 This scene is supposed to make us question everything that we are seeing. Dean knows or suspects Sam is lying….

This is Dean’s gift! He is canonically, continuously good at sensing when people are lying, especially over Sam who is more cerebral but has less EQ than Dean. And I mean Jared is a good actor, but this acting is terrible? It’s so obvious to us that he’s lying…. Then just this season Dean can read Mary and Cas even over the phone… but can’t tell his own brother - the most important person in his life who he RAISED - in person is lying? No. 

Plus all his call outs to Sam in this same episode over lying?  And the overlying arc of this season being that Dean is fed up of lying, is letting down his walls, slowly dropping the performing!Dean facade while Mary and Sam (and now Cas?) are hiding things from him.   

So…perhaps is he is repressing it? He doesn’t want to lose his brother after having lost his mother and Cas is away and they are avoiding each other after 12x12….. this scene is a subversion, it is showing us something is wrong with him. Kinda like when you’re depressed and don’t want to shower or eat or generally look after yourself. And throw yourself into something else (hunting) so you don’t have to think about it…. 

Even if this isn’t quite the case, the whole scene is made to make US realise that there is something wrong here.

Davy seems to know what he’s doing with pretty much everything else, so I’m gonna trust that he knows the character of Dean and is using it well here, NOT completely ignoring canon but actually using it to further his point.

Again, this reminds me of @floralmotif‘s post re: the visual ‘wrongness’ of the car scene in 11x23 and how this is again shown in 12x10 with the ‘wrongness’ of Ishim’s lying/playing Cas.

Originally posted by yougiveagirlallsortofnastyideas

Originally posted by super-sootica

This is just a textual version rather than visual…..

Looking back to my wishes for season 12, I can’t help being so fucking happy with how they handled Mary’s character.

They could have made her live up to the (impossible) “perfect mom” standard that was created for her because of her premature death, they could have reduced her character to a tool that exists only for Sam and Dean, they could have forgotten about her husband and her feelings and her trauma… 

Instead, what we got was a three dimensional character, a woman, not just a mother, an hunter, because it’s nearly impossible to really stop being one when you were raised into it, grieving her husband and the children she knew, feeling estranged from those adult men who call her “mom” but at the same time wishing to love them and be there for them like they deserve, trying to fit in a world that doesn’t feel like it’s her own anymore.

They gave her motives that have nothing to do with Sam and Dean, they let her interact with other characters aside from her sons, they made her so human and I have so many feelings about her.


bittersamgirlclub TOP 5 PROMPT #11: TOP 5 SAM-PRAISE MOMENTS 

Making this made me feel all warm and squishy inside, there are many other little moments I could have chosen and that makes me very happy. Sometimes it feels like Sam is so underappreciated, both in fandom and in universe, so to focus on all those moments where characters talk or feel about Sam the same way we do is just wonderful.

These are not necessarily in any order, although those first two are pretty much interchangeably in first place.

  1. Marie - Fan Fiction - I just love how with three words Marie manages to sum up so much of what we all adore about Sam, those core facets of his being that make Sam so beautiful. But what I love even more is “there’s nothing he can’t do”. There’s something so powerful about that, and it’s so true on so many levels. The way in which Sam has defied destiny and other’s expectations for him, time and again. Working his way to a full ride to Stanford. Building himself a new life, not once, but twice from the ground up. Overcoming the devil. How could anyone not believe that Sam is capable of anything after reading about that! The other thing I love about Marie is that, although she exists in universe, she gives us an out of universe perspective on Sam, in that sense I find her, and her praise of Sam to be very relatable, it feels as if I am being voiced directly through the show. Of course the fact that Sam did not hear this praise saddens me, but I think it is incredibly important that Dean did hear it, to be reminded of all those things that deep down he knows, and loves about his brother.
  2. Jess - Pilot - I think its no secret how much I adore Sam/Jess and their relationship. Of course we only get tiny slivers of their life together, these fleeting moments, but ones like this especially I think illuminate their relationship perfectly. In this scene, Jess makes absolutely sure that Sam knows how proud of him she is, bringing up his LSAT score, praising how amazing it is, making sure he knows she’s serious when she says she’s proud, that she wasn’t just kidding around, that she really means its and that she believes in him. I think Jess was painfully aware of how little, if ever, Sam had been exposed to the concept of someone being proud of him and that intentionally worked to rectify that at every available opportunity (I might have written a little ficlet about this *cough*shamelessplug*cough*). We hear in ‘Phantom Traveller’ that apparently John expressed his pride in Sam to others, but clearly withheld it from Sam himself, the fact that Jess goes out of her way to ensure that Sam knows how she feels is just SO important.
  3. Mr Wyatt - After School Special - This episode in general is just EVERYTHING to me, but this moment in particular is incredibly special and I think actually instrumental in shaping Sam. I think its quite likely given Sam’s reaction to thinking the Mr Wyatt was going to fail him, that prior to this scene Sam was actually rather apathetic about school, moving from place to place, never being able to make real connections, he probably loved learning and studying but was unable to find reasons to really care about doing well when in a few days he’d be off to the next school anyway, when he saw nothing in his future but more of what his entire life had been, death and danger and loneliness. Mr Wyatt not only praised Sam’s academic abilities, but more importantly he allowed Sam to believe that there could be something beyond his current life, that he was capable of escaping that, of building something of his own.
  4. Dean - Scarecrow - I love, love, love this moment! Firstly, I’m pretty certain that this is the first time Sam has heard the words “I’m proud of you” from anyone other than Jess, look at his reaction, he’s completely at a loss for what to do or say and just taken aback entirely. What’s also important here is what Dean is praising Sam for. Dean is saying that he’s proud of Sam for the very things that go Sam disowned and dissociated from his family, for things that Dean in the past (and sadly will again in the future) had criticised Sam for. Standing up to John and forging his own way were actions that Sam had been led to believe time after time were deep and terrible betrayals and things that he should feel ashamed of, that Dean in this moment acknowledges that they are in fact great strengths and worthy of admiration is just so incredibly important.
  5. Sarah - Clip Show - I actually think this one is a little odd, because I think what Sarah is picking up on here is Sam’s determination to finish the trails and to 'right’ all the perceived wrongs he was done, to make up for all the ways he believes he’s let Dean down, and I can’t really feel that that is a positive thing. On the other hand, Sarah a) doesn’t know the context of what she’s seeing, she’s genuinely trying to and say something good about Sam b) at this point in the season people who bolster Sam in anyway, especially to his face, are so few and far between that anything along those lines is like manna in the desert….

sunflowerchester — I finally finished it! hahah…

anonymous asked:

I have really complicated feelings about Mary. I actually like that's she's not some perfect mom and has her own agenda. I like her as flawed. But I just don't like that Dean once again was the one who was made to apologise for how he was feeling. And I'm not happy with how she was basically willing to let Cas die over the Colt (though I guess you can make the argument it wouldn't have mattered much). Idk, maybe I just don't like the choices she's making right now? I get she's lost, but still...

Hey anon, I’m totally with you - I think it’s great so many people seem to have complex feelings about Mary. Because that means she’s not a one-dimensional character, but a flawed, realistic person, as you point out.

I also really hate that Dean is getting the short end of the lying stick again, with Mary, Sam and even Cas at the very end of the last episode. He sure didn’t have anything to apologise for, in my opinion, but it was a good way to not let the situation escalate. He compromised - instead of shutting Mary and Sam out & pushing them away because he doesn’t agree with the stance they’re taking re the BMoL, he chose the more difficult - but imho the more mature - path of “agreeing to disagree” and settle the dispute like that.This allows him to stay close to Mary and Sam, which, I’m sure, he hopes will mean that they start trusting him more. The more you push people away, the more they’ll lie, after all.

And the narrative is obviously going to prove Mary and Sam wrong - the BMoL are going to do something horrible (well, more horrible than they have already been doing and it’ll be revealed to Mary and Sam) - possibly related to Cas - that’ll show their true vile nature to Mary and Sam. So in that sense, I’m pretty sure Dean will be vindicated - in the sense that he’ll be proven right all along.

Of course, this is SPN so it’s likely Dean won’t be able to enjoy that little victory at all, because it’s gonna come at a great price.

Anyway, yes, Mary. It hurt me that she didn’t give up the Colt to (potentially) save both Cas’s and her sons’ lives, but then again as you say Ramiel probably would’ve wasted them all anyway, and she likely realized this. I definitely disagree with some of the choices she’s making, but I understand them. Thinking about where she came from (a family of hunters), the trauma of dying in such a horrible way, getting ripped from heaven and thrown into a world you barely recognize, being faced with adult sons that are physically close to your own age, having to deal with your beloved husband’s death…honestly she’s coping better than I would, that’s for sure.

And her motivation for working with the BMoL comes from a good, albeit misguided place. Remember what a long, long road of character growth Sam and Dean have behind them. The many mistakes they made, often multiple times, with heartbreaking and disastrous consequences. She simply hasn’t had that journey yet (well, she’s learned the lesson about demon deals…). And she deserves to have one, and certainly not be judged more harshly (as some people seem to do) for her mistakes than Sam & Dean (and Cas, too). I think she’s looking for a purpose. And while being a parent is a fine and worthy purpose in life, her children are adults. They don’t need her the same way young children would. They grew up without her, and she just hasn’t connected with them on a deeper level yet - these things take time after all.

I don’t know what her endgame is, but I sincerely hope she survives the end of this season, because I think she’s a fascinating character and also because SPN needs to stop killing off all their women. She could become a multi-season semi-regular! why not?

This got long so I’ll stop here - but thanks for sending this, I was planning on talking about Mary at some point on this blog, and your ask was the perfect opportunity for it.

anonymous asked:

pure wishlist/wild-speculation-but-not-really, but do you think Dean will have a nightmare like 7x05 in early s13?/ dream about Cas' death?

Gosh I can only hope for this kinda thing with dreams, 8x07 style hallucinations, Sam calling him out on it as per 7x05, psychics revealing his feelings, getting uninhibited as per the leviathan goo and showing his feelings etc etc etc So many season 7 callback potentials, but then also we have all the season ½ potential parallels with John’s death (re: their grief over Mary) and Jess’ death (re: the mirror of Sam’s grief in s1 for Dean’s grief in s13), PLUS hopefully the easy portrayal of the difference in grief between Sam and Dean.

There are so many past canon moments they could parallel and of course new ones too :p

I can’t speculate precisely but only hope for the best as to which combination they’ll use but I expect there’ll be a few :)

Some thoughts on supernatural on social media

Idk why but I feel a need to say this.

I love Supernatural since I saw the first episode. What drew me in and keeps me watching is the brothers bond. From the first episode the banter was so great. I think Jared and Jensen play off each other has always been good since day 1 and has just grown stronger as their real life friendship has too. I know I don’t know them but they do seem to have a great friendship and I don’t think the show would have lasted as many years as it has if they weren’t. They are as neighbors and their kids even hang out together all the time.

This does not mean I ship wincest or think J2 are romantically involved with each other. I guess I could be called a bibro because from what I have gathered bibros just means you love both brothers and I do. I am more a Sam leaning girl because I just have seen a lot of negative hate toward him from the start so I guess I just had a special place in my heart for him and felt a need to defend him. I know people hate on all but I just see it extra for Sam and have since the start. First time I really looked up anything I looked up Dean and saw all these great things pop up which is great because I love Dean. For Sam though first thing I saw was an article someone wrote saying they were even surprised they got this because they are a Dean girl which I was surprised by because 1st of all I love both and just because I am Sam leaning doesn’t mean I can’t write positive about Dean. If it’s a struggle for this person though why are they writing the article? Then I made a mistake and saw all the comments some of the things people said was like they were talking about a completely different character then the one I had gotten to know. I went on Tumblr and the amount of Sam hate I saw was definitely way higher then any other character. I think ever since then I have become a Sammy girl. I guess defending him more and more I convinced even myself more and more. I love both though at the start I couldn’t even pick. If I see Dean hate I will also defend him.
Anyone can hate Sam or Dean but if I see it especially if it’s tagged under supernatural or the characters I will give my two cents.
Nothing wrong with criticizing either at all and is definitely different from hating. Again a person can hate on either or both, that’s fine too, but if I see it and if I feel like the points being made are totally unfair or out of context I will comment.
That’s what social media should be about people discussing and if we can’t even discuss characters what can we discuss in the world?
I get it characters can make us relate to ourselves or people we know which can make us want to protect them or hate on them but nothing wrong with talking about it. I so hate when people use “evidence” from things that are not canon! With supernatural though so many times canon has been messed up sadly but that’s a whole other discussion.

I just wanted to say I love both and the brother bond made me love this show. I know other shows like for example Orange is the new black can work without the main character because I think the show is about the prison industrial complex as a whole and not one specific character. The main character was just used to get us in and we can take a look with fresh eyes like she has but now the show has gone long enough that we know how it works so don’t need that anymore. There other shows like this but that’s the only example that came to mind as of this moment. Show like supernatural needs Sam and Dean otherwise it’s not supernatural. Supernatural is a story of two brothers fighting evil. If you get rid of Sam and Dean it’s something else which can be fine and a person can like it but it’s not supernatural. Sam and Dean are supernatural. For some reason many get mad when someone says that but it’s true.

This doesn’t mean I hate other characters but they aren’t why I watch the show. I have watched shows before for characters that are not the main characters and only their scenes but I don’t claim to be a fan of
The show. Sometimes I watch shows for a character or actor but fall in love with the show as a whole then yeah I say I’m a fan. I hope that makes sense.

I also have no problem with any ship but I just don’t ship anyone on this show. I think every show and movie has romantic interests which is cool, I ship and obsess too. What I like about this show is that it’s not about romantic love but about love of two brothers and family as a whole. I don’t have any siblings but I connected to it for some reason and I appreciate that. Not everything needs to have a romance, again nothing wrong with romance but not everything needs to be about that.

I followed so many Supernatural fan blogs and pages on all social medias hoping to really be able to discuss this show that I feel in love with as a whole but honestly it’s disappointing to just see ship wars and hate for a show that doesn’t even have a main romance or love triangle at all. I want to discuss Sam, Dean, Cass, Crowley, and all. Specific episodes, seasons, music, filming, etc. Again no ship hate and nothing wrong with having one even if it’s not canon but it feels like that’s all people seem to want to discuss and not even discuss but fight about.

I know wincest and destiel are the most popular ships in the fandom. Nothing wrong with either or if you like a ship like sastiel, drowley, crammy?, Croby, any ship. I usually see wincest and destiel mostly so I will talk about them. I don’t ship either but from what I have seen it does seem like destiel is everywhere in Sam and Crowley tags or supernatural tags as a whole. Nothing wrong with shipping whatever but I just wish people would respect the tags. Like when I look up something about supernatural I want to see that not destiel. If it’s supernatural as a whole there is many things I want to see not 90% of it being Destiel. If I wanted to look up destiel I would search destiel. I do think sastiel is very underrated, their friendship in general. In season 12 even writers made it seem like Sam had no connection to Cass or Mary even. Even when there are scenes with Sam and Cass it’s not talked about sadly. Or if it’s a scene with all three Sam gets cut out so many times. It really seems unfair and I think hurts the idea they are supposed to be a team, it feels like separate partners and not a real group. Also I’m still upset Bobby wasn’t included in team free will, I think many should have been but atleast Bobby who helped so much during the time Dean even mentioned TFW.

Going back to destiel, I know many think Destiel should be canon whole I have never seen a wincest shipper actually think it should be canon. I personally don’t get that and like many moments people point out happened with Sam and Dean more or it’s taken out of context or Sam was there too but was cut out and such. Again no hate I just don’t get it. Also people obviously might have different experiences this is just what I have seen.

Also I don’t hate Cass but I do think he’s been repetitive. He was really cool and that concept of a character defying all he knows because he has too much heart and decides to fight for what is right is amazing. I do think though since season 6 atleast it stopped being about the greater good for Cass and just became him wanting to be the hero and for his ego. Since season 6 supposidly he’s grown but to me he keeps making the same mistakes again with the fandom just forgiving him right away like poor angel. That doesn’t work anymore because he’s been on Earth too long, with Sam and Dean too long, and was a human himself. Plus I hate that because it’s basically saying he doesn’t know any better but he does. He’s supposed to be really smart and many years old. I wish the writing reflected that. It feels like he’s mostly there for fan service and not an actual story. I have talked to a few Cass stans who Cosplay and write destiel fan fiction who agree and are very disappointed too.

I also find it so bogus that it’s usually J2M or team free will meaning Winchesters with Cass but Mark and Crowley are always left out. He’s or I guess was a series regular just like Misha/Cass. I have seen many get hate for mentioning J2 or Sam and Dean only with so many inserting Misha/Cass in no matter what. Claiming it’s not fair to him but what about Mark? He is in the same category as Misha.

I have a lot more to say and I know this has been a little random. I just wanted to ramble about supernatural on social media as a whole. Some things I have seen.
I would love to hear people if they agree/disagree with anything I said or maybe everything I said. I don’t mind healthy discussions and debates ever.

I’ve got to say that season 12 is not one of my favorite seasons, somehow it kind of have been a little slow for me. BUT THAT FINALE.

That little bit it was creepy. I’m really waiting for next season, I feel it’s going to have a great storyline.

Plus I gotta say: I’ve never seen so many deaths of important characters in one episode since Mystery Spot…(?) so this is some kind of new score.

My thoughts on s12

So after watching s12 for the second time, it occurred to me that death (both literal and metaphorical), rebirth, and death is a theme with this season. 
For example: 
- Mary: Was dead, came back, but the image Sam and Dean conjured for her in their minds died after seeing how she truly is, then for her to get trapped in the alternate universe in the end. 

- Crowley: Was presumed dead by Lucifer then returned wanting to shut down hell, only to die in the finale.

- Cas: almost died in 12X12 and said what would be his last words, only to truly die in the finale.

- Asa Fox: Almost died as a child until Mary saved him, then truly died after.  

- The Twins: Alicia died then was brought back when Max gave up his soul for the magic. They also served as a mirror to Sam and Dean: Alicia being Sam, and Max being Dean. The entire episode mirrors s1 with their “mom on a hunting trip and hasn’t been home for a few days”. It also points out how codependant Sam and Dean are and shows it should not be glorified. As we saw clearly in s11 ep19 with the married couple, Jessie and Czar, Jessie was mostly fine and learn to cope with his brother’s death, and the same would happen to Sam or Dean eventually. The twins also show how Sam and Dean could’ve been if they were raised in a loving home, and Dean said so himself when he said “You know I was watching them, this loving family, the kind we should’ve had.” 

- Lucifer: while he didn’t die, the theme of “being gone and thought to have been dealt with but coming back” theme continues here. Tfw and Rowena believed he was back in the cage until the very end. 

- Lily Sunder: Believed to have been dead due to time, only to return to get revenge. 

- Bobby: Just when we all thought that we had maybe seen the last of him, he returns. Again, death, return as a ghost, then death again, then revival of him through heaven, then memories, and now in the alternate universe. 

- BMOL: I would count this, because Sam and Dean believed the MOL died when Abbadon slaughtered then, only to learn there was a continuing operation for Sam and friends™️ to take out later on.

- Rowena: I’ll go ahead and add her, since she died in s11, then came back, only to be killed by Lucifer again in the finale. 

That’s a lot of both real and metaphorical deaths, rebirths and deaths. I believe a large point of what season 12 was about, was facing things that hadn’t truly been dealt with, and putting them to rest. The scene between Dean and Mary in 12x22 is a prime example of that. Also, I noticed how they never used the rocket launcher until this episode either, and up until this point, the only person who seemed to be as enthusiastic about it as Dean, was Max, Dean’s queer mirror of himself. I find it ironic that when Dean brought the rocket launcher out, he said, “I’ve had this thing for so long, been waiting for the perfect moment to use it”, then proceeds to save Sam and Lady Bevell by pulling himself out of that sewer pipe that led outside. Dean metaphorically gave birth to himself, and this season has shown major character growth for him, from being honest with Mary, to being more open with his feelings to Cas. And here’s another throw to the theme I’ve laid out above, because Dean fought with his demons he had left buried by telling Mary how he feels so he can heal and move on and become ‘reborn’, only to have a part of him die as he sees Cas die before his very eyes.

Now Cas is an interesting topic this season. He seems to struggle finding his place. Dean says it’s with him and Sam at the bunker, but Dean tends to push him away in their squabbles, and I’m sure it gives someone as simple minded as Cas lots of mixed signals, and as a result, he feels he isn’t really ‘home’. So, he goes searching for it. He tries finding it in the angels, lured by the promise of ‘all your sins will be forgotten and you will be welcomed back into the fold’. But even that didn’t entirely work out, and until 12x19 after the nephilim worked through Cas to kill Dagon, simultaneously showing him ‘the future’, Cas was lost. I found his choice of words in the finale telling when Kelly was experiencing contractions and asked Cas to “tell me again what you saw”. He responds with, “I saw the future. I saw a world without pain, or hunger, or want. I saw the world that this child - your child - will create. And it is a world without fear, without suffering, and without hate. I saw paradise.” Now, doesn’t that sound eerily similar to what Cas was telling Dean he could have in the finale of s4? I think that just like Dean had to face himself this season, I believe next season will be about Cas making a choice and facing himself. Cas has tried too long to be both an angel - failing to win back the good graces of his brothers and sisters - and being a touch too close to human with the Winchesters. He cannot be both, and as Crowley told Demon Dean, I think Cas will have to “pick a bloody side!” 

Now, going back to Jack using Cas to kill Dagon and seemingly mind controlling Cas, I actually don’t think Jack was mind controlling either Kelly or Castiel. 

Kelly was political, in the business of theoretically making the world a better place and trying to help maintain peace between every country on the plane. It’s in her heart to want to make the world a better place, a world without ‘pain, hunger, or want’. Jack used her heart against her, showing her the world she’d been trying to create with the president and her colleagues. 

And Cas? Cas has been trying to keep a tospy turvy world still going with the Winchesters, and in his own way, striving for the same things Kelly was, which is why I believe they bonded. They both had a singular goal, and Jack was the way to it. 

I found Castiel’s words telling, because after Dean asked Cas in 12x19 if he was okay, Cas said he ‘wasn’t lost anymore’. We know that up to this point, Cas has been depressed, felt useless, and expendable, unable to find his place in either divinity, or humanity. So when he said that Jack will bring a world without pain, hunger, or want, I see three things in my mind. 

Pain: Cas is tired of being hurt, tired of failing, tired of being an outcast in heaven. He’s pained over trying to find his place, pained that he can’t find it.

Hunger: He longs to find his place, longs for that certainty he had way back in s4. Back when everything was black and white, kill or be killed, command, or follow commands. He hungers to be certain in something again, to be righteous in his endeavors and not fail. 

Want: He wants to be welcomed by his brother’s and sisters, and he wants to be loved. He wants something or someone to give him the confidence he lacks in himself, to give him purpose. He reaches out time and time again to Dean, only for the two of them not to see eye to eye. (such as Dean being pissed that Cas killed Billie to save them) 

I think a part of Cas wants to revert back to how he was in s4. To be sure of things, to be sure of himself, and to not feel things so sharply. I think that’s why he clings so hard to his grace, because as he said after Sam cured Dean in s10, “only humans can feel true joy, but also such profound pain.” By clinging to his grace, everything he feels in numbed to some degree. *long sigh* Someone needs *cough* Dean *cough* to give Cas a good long hug. 

I’m sure there’s many fine points I’ve missed, but I think at the end of the day, season thirteen will be about rebirth. 


We already have Cas’, Michael’s and Missouri’s confirmed returns, and I have little doubt that Rowena and Mary will return in some way, all rebirths. We have hints that Cas will be a different person when he returns, in which I think his and Dean’s bond, as well as his own personal growth, is reaching it’s climax and will have to be addressed. I think a lot of things will end up being addressed next season, and laid to rest, probably both literally, and figuratively. 

Also, isn’t it ironic that s13 airs on Aleister Crowley’s birthday? 

hellhoundlover  asked:

Who is your favorite Winchester?

Oh no you didn’t

Okay, I like the boys equally and (obviously) a lot more than Mary and John, like most

Do I really have to choose D:

Okay, let’s say this: If I have to choose one for the sake of the question (cause I feel like many say they can’t choose) I’m gonna choose Sam.

Because, I feel like most people would choose Dean so I wanna choose Sam instead. I feel like he’s a bit underrated. 

But honestly, I do love them the same (◡ ‿ ◡ ✿)

anonymous asked:

I think my favorite way for Bi!Dean to become canon would be Sam and Dean at a diner and Dean checks out a dude VERRRRRY obviously (more so than in the past) and then Sam says, "Dean??" and Dean says, "What? Shut up." *insert gif of Sam doing that surprised and then "huh" face. you know the one*

I love this idea :)

I kinda have a headcanon that Mary herself would actually be bi (as she’s a big Dean mirror and Mary is Amara’s extension for exposing Dean’s feelings/inner self) because she was forced to love John, so why not, and we would get both of them checking out the same couple and some kinda ‘he’s hot’, well ‘she’s hot’ exchange lol.

Dean turns to Mary like:

Originally posted by dustydreamsanddirtyscars


There are many many ways it could happen and tbh I love most of them :)

Honestly though, the episode was really great and all, but the one thing I’m really salty over is the fact that they never even bothered addressing the fact that Sam was tortured for so many days, and basically mind raped by his captor and made to feel guilty about it, like it was his fault. I’m just really tired of the writers glossing over Sam’s well being. I mean honestly, how hard would it be to just address it; have Dean or Mary ask him about it simply, or for Sam to acknowledge the pain that he went through instead of acting like nothing ever happened? And this isn’t the first time they’ve done it either. Last season when they had Lucifer in the bunker once again, they didn’t even bother addressing the fact that it would be difficult for Sam having his torturer and abuser being in the same proximity as him, and being forced to ‘play nice’ with him. Proving once again that his feelings don’t really matter. 

 What gets me the most though is the fact that I’m sure that if it had been Dean who had been in that position, the writers would have been all over it, making sure that it was clearly addressed and there was a nice, angsty scene over it, and basically have everyone crying over it and talking about how brave he is. I mean don’t get me wrong, I love Dean. But can’t they just treat the boys equally??

On feeling inadequate: The Dean, Cas and Mary edition.

What an amazing episode today’s was. I loved the old-fashioned mystery horror feel of the case, but the complex emotions it invoked overpowered it. It was painful seeing all of their hearts break in individual ways but I’m glad it is being addressed.

Mary: At the start we see Mary reading John’s journal. She’s clearly upset by it for multiple reasons— the journal is a symbol of how much time has passed. How much her boys have changed. How much HER John had changed. How much she ‘doesn’t belong’. Yet when she asks Cas, he says (gif credit to @sunlitcas)

She’s surprised for a second. And then she smiles, but it’s pretty sad. Look at it from Mary’s point of view. She is unaware of all of Cas’s issues, but one thing is clear to her. Dean trusts him, he’s clearly affectionate with him, he lets him stay in the bunker and YET Cas doesn’t feel he belongs. So realistically, what chance does she have of ever belonging?

Throughout the episode, Mary is struggling. In heaven she still had two little kids to take care of, a place and family she belonged to. And now, she’s almost useless. They don’t need her. They’re sweet and kind and polite but they’re essentially strangers. She had to be saved twice by them (and she certainly was a very capable hunter before) so this adds to her feeling of inadequacy.

I respect the decision she made at the end. I’m glad that she was open and honest with both of them and her pain was palpable. She needs time to just be her own person and find her own feet, away from Dean and Sam. And when they’re ready, they can try to be a family again.

Cas: Oh boy, Cas. I’m glad to see his issues didn’t just magically disappear. I loved the fact that he tried to console Mary by telling her what she needed. The irony is that both of them feel the other is more important. Mary thinks that Cas is more important to her boys because he knows them better and is more ‘useful’ and Cas thinks Mary is more important to them because she is actually family.

The fact that he was wandering in the middle of the night (instead of researching/watching TV) rings a few alarm bells about his mental state. He stuck around till Sam was safe but he’s unwilling to stay for longer because he has never felt welcome in the bunker. The conversation with Mary probably made him feel worse than ever.

Even his conversation was short (refusing Dean’s offer of coffee) because he’s feeling so guilty and unhappy about always failing the people he loves. He think his worth to the Winchesters lie only in how useful he is (and to be fair they made him feel that way many, many times) One conversation by Dean is not going to undo all that damage. I guess he would have taken Dean’s offer of help IF Mary wasn’t feeling like crap too. But now that he knows Mary is unhappy, he’s trying to make them stay with her so she will feel better.

This line made me pause the video and cry for ten minutes. (gif credit to @constiellation)

Poor Cas, trying so hard to be like Sam and Dean. Cas hates Crowley, but he can’t help himself from asking him for what is clearly reassurance. He clearly admires the Winchesters and wants to learn to hunt and gather information so he’s not a burden to them and that is just so heartrendingly sad.    

Dean: I felt the most for Dean in this episode. I mean, just last episode he was drinking and almost crying in the bunker kitchen so I assume he stayed up till Cas came home. And then had sex with him fell asleep. He’s clearly happy in the morning, based on the fact that he made breakfast and set out a plate for Cas (the bacon was clearly for him, not Mary) Dean is a nurturer. He cooks for the people he loves. He was clearly expecting to have a nice breakfast with his family but Cas blows him off quite rudely. (gif credit to @yourfavoritedirector and @sunlitcas)

There’s quite a bit of shock and hurt in Dean’s eyes but he quickly recovers because this is a dance that they always do. Dean thinks that Cas always keeps leaving him because he has ‘better things to do’ and Cas always feels like he needs to leave he feels Dean doesn’t want him. This scene also reminded me of 8.08 where Dean’s all excited about Cas being with him and hunting by his side and even offers shotgun but… It didn’t happen.

Sam got what Cas was trying to say, but Dean’s busy in denial-town. Throughout the episode he has his head buried in the sand, doing his usual hearty ‘everything’s fine all fine I don’t care at all lalalalalala’ routine.

In the graveyard scene, Dean’s lines are telling.

“She’s still working on the kinks. We’re ALL still working on the kinks.”- Translation: I don’t want to talk about this, Cas is going to come back as soon as the Lucifer thing finishes and I WILL HAVE MY FAMILY TOGETHER UNDER ONE ROOF. 

He doesn’t want to deal with Mary’s emotional issues right now. He’s like a child who doesn’t want to see something bad is happening. He’s hoping if he shuts his eyes hard enough it’ll all go away. He’s not upset about Mary here, he’s upset about Cas.  

The ending though, is where you can see Dean’s heart break into a million pieces. (gif credit to @yourfavoritedirector

Mary unknowingly uses the SAME LINES Cas said while leaving (coincidence? I think not) We all know that Dean has abandonment issues a mile long— every time he tries, he gets his heart stomped on. And knowing Dean, he’s not angry with Mary or being a spoiled brat, he’s blaming himself. He’s been trying (cooking for Cas and Mary, buying Mary those snacks, letting her hunt) so hard but nothing’s working. He offered apologies for his behavior to Cas (in 11x23) and Mary (in this episode) but both of them left anyway. They didn’t leave because of HIM, but look at it from his point of view— no one wants him.

Dean, Mary and Cas— all three of them hurting. I’m devastated to see their pain yet also happy to see some acknowledgement. I want all three of them to heal at least a little this season and be a family again. They need each other.

I mean I’m sure peeps have talked about this but Mary asking Cas when he felt like he fit? and Cas NOT ANSWERING? Mary seeing this HEAVENLY BEING who just hangs around who her kids clearly love and care for and HE DOESN’T FEEL LIKE HE FITS EITHER. after so many years. Like, of course she gets scared by that if even the guy that is most like their family doesn’t feel at home or wanted because all
Sam and Dean focus on is eachother? But he still chooses them because they’re family and he loves them, just like Mary loves them but they both leave cause they don’t fit AND IM REALLY EMOTIONAL.

anonymous asked:

Do you think when they find Mary, Dean will talk to her about Cas, and if so this episode? Or do you think his phone call to her will get swept under the rug?

I don’t think they will have time this episode, there is so much going on plus its a Bucklemming so the pacing will probably suck, there will be too many characters and stories going on in 42 minutes to get all this in.

But who knows I may be wrong! It sounds from the interview with DHJ that Mary will be in someway mentally attacked by Toni (mental conditioning and torture) which makes sense as a Cas parallel with his mental and emotional state called into question at the moment and I imagine a subversion of a kind, but I’m pretty sure it won’t stick as we have the leak from 12x22 where Mary and Dean have a confrontation so I wouldn’t have thought that it could last, she should be herself again by 22…

I do think that the anguished I’m worried about my husband/boyfriend best friend phone call will in someway be addressed by the finale. Not necessarily obviously but adding up all the lead up to this I feel like it must happen.

The fact that Mary has consistently had interactions with Cas as a son-in-law all season (and very little else that does not feel like a son-in-law scenario) and Sam since forever but even more so recently has been portrayed as the 3rd wheel in so many scenes, coupled with the fact that Dean seems to be giving so much less of a shit about keeping the facade up that he isn’t scared shitless about losing Cas and that he seriously cares about the guy… 

It feels like the fact that Dean is having serious emotional issues about his boyfriend/husband best friend should come up at some point, even if it is a little ambiguous, textually enough that it is obvious to us at least, before the finale. Otherwise it kind of doesn’t make sense to keep bringing it up consistently from so many different angles (unless they really are just toying with us or REALLY dragging this thing out for all it’s worth…but I feel like we need something more at this point just to narratively tie up these themes that they have planted, even if it is still ambiguous, otherwise it’s just bad storytelling by not following through within the season).

But hey this is all just conjecture!

I just really hope no-one we really care about dies…

Originally posted by warriorsgleek

I’ve noticed a trend, a shift, lately and it’s making me smile.

This season, almost all the episode codas I have seen are Dean & Cas established relationship. It’s the two of them deriving comfort from one another, and especially Dean needing Cas through his tumultuous feelings of Mary being back, Sam being taken, and Mary leaving. 

In past seasons, I have noticed a lot more codas were get-together fics and so many were about first kiss, first love confessions, first times. But something has shifted. The Destiel fandom has lost all fucks to give and it seems everyone collectively decided we are tired of waiting. Screw it, Dean and Cas are together and we are sticking to it. 

So many sweet comfort codas where Cas just slots himself so naturally into Dean. Maybe we just got spoiled with two Dean/Cas hugs in two episodes and now there’s no going back. Maybe it’s that everyone is themselves now, no one is possessed or cursed. Maybe it’s just the smaller, more character and relationship driven story line this season. I’m not sure where this came from but I’m not complaining.

anonymous asked:

OK, confession time. I don't *hate* Dean, but I'm not his biggest fan either. I won't list why I think this because I don't want you to hate me (honestly I love your blog a lot and the last thing I want is to cause arguments!). But I would like to know your honest opinion on why you think Dean is your 'moon and stars', as you tag him. How would you justify this. Because I'm in 2 minds about him and have seen lots of negativity, but I don't agree with all of that either. I'm sorry if you hate me!

oh nooooo, lovely! i don’t hate you at all!!! ♥ everyone is entitled to their opinion and disagreeing is not the same as hating. and there is nothing that i love more than dean winchester meta, so here goes:

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