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Marrissey Quotes to sob over

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“It’s no secret that I would be on the next bus to his house.”— Morrissey, 1990, upon being asked ‘If Johnny phoned and asked to work with you again, what would you say? ‘

“He is painfully shy,” emphasises Johnny Marr. “You’ve got to understand that. We all look out for Morrissey. It’s a very brotherly feeling. When we first rehearsed, I’d have done anything for him. And as a person Morrissey is really capable of a truly loving relationship. Every day he’s so open, so romantic and sensitive to other people’s emotions.”  Johnny Marr, 1985

“He was different with me than he was with everybody else. I couldn’t have given my music to anybody - anybody else, and he appreciated it more, because he just fell in love with it, and that went on all the way through the band. In many ways he was my biggest fan really.”
— Johnny Marr on Morrissey

“We really were swept away by passion for what we were about to embark upon. I remember talking about the New York Dolls’ album cover photograph on the very first day we got together - should we sprawl all over each other in photos like they did? Without sounding too pretentious, the two of us were able to project onto each other and into the ether, everything in us that had been suppressed for years. There was a lot of shouting “yeah!” at each other, great, passionate agreement: “Yeah, that’s what I want to do too…”— Johnny Marr, 2004, reflecting upon the day he met Morrissey.

“He is painfully shy,” emphasises Johnny Marr. “You’ve got to understand that. We all look out for Morrissey. It’s a very brotherly feeling. When we first rehearsed, I’d have done anything for him. And as a person Morrissey is really capable of a truly loving relationship. Every day he’s so open, so romantic and sensitive to other people’s emotions.”  Johnny Marr, 1985

“Obviously with Johnny, I feel very defensive about our relationship. Some things have to be shielded, but the dedication I feel to him is quite solid and impregnable.”   Morrissey.

“There’s a lot of our relationship in those songs. That’s not to say the words are about our relationship, but the feeling in the recordings and some of the songs are a product of our relationship because we are so wrapped up in each other.”
— Johnny Marr on working with Morrissey

“He appeared at a time when I was deeper than the depths, if you like. And he provided me with this massive energy boost. I could feel Johnny’s energy just seething inside of me.”  Morrissey.

“The relationship between me and Morrissey is the best in the group, of the four of us. I still see him now. I called him last night. Last time I saw him was a couple of days before he went in to do his recent album. We let a bored media get the better of us, but there’s always been a certain telepathy between us even when we didn’t see each other. We played a game with the press and they played with us, but it’s not true life. No, we’re friends.”
— Johnny Marr, 1993.

“He appeared at a time when I was deeper than the depths, if you like. And he provided me with this massive energy boost. I could feel Johnny’s energy just seething inside of me.”
 Morrissey.

Smash Hits: What would you do if you could be invisible for a day?
Johnny Marr: I think I’d just follow Morrissey around and see what he gets up to when he disappears…

“ We actually got together a few times. We went for a walk in the country, we went out to dinner one night and later we just went for a long drive. It was really good to see each other away from any scenes. Like everyone, in private we’re quite different characters. I know the real Morrissey and he knows the real me. "   Johnny Marr quote

” We really were swept away by passion for what we were about to embark upon. I remember talking about the New York Dolls’ album cover photograph on the very first day we got together - should we sprawl all over each other in photos like they did? Without sounding too pretentious, the two of us were able to project onto each other and into the ether, everything in us that had been suppressed for years. There was a lot of shouting “yeah!” at each other, great, passionate agreement: “Yeah, that’s what I want to do too… “ 'There was a sense that we’d really found each other. We really admired each other and wanted to spend every minute of the day with each other.‘   Johnny Marr, about meeting Morrissey.

“Only he and I know that something like a fight or a difference in lifestyles or court cases or who said what in the press about who, or what fans might say, is pretty small change compared to the connection we have. It’s very deep. In short, there’s a very big part of him that I understand. And he knows it.'  Johnny Marr.

“It was a special musical relationship. And those are few and far between. For Johnny and I it won’t come again. I think he knows that and I know it. The Smiths had the best of Johnny and me. Those were definitely *the* days.”  Morrissey

“We were totally excited about where we were going to go, and we were falling over ourselves with ideas. Looking back on it now, it’s an almost even stranger set of circumstances, that the two talents fitted together like a hand in glove. There, I’ve said it. I don’t think I’m the only one who could imagine that song being about Morrissey and myself. It certainly did describe our relationship, and was born out of that new relationship.  Johnny Marr

‘It got to the stage where I was so impressed and infatuated, that even if he couldn’t play, it really didn’t matter…’  Morrissey

“So much has been made of that first meeting with Morrissey, but I suppose that looking back at it, it must have been the attraction of opposites. Like, he is a very tidy person and very organised and that was a bit of a shock to me, plus I had never seen so many books in the one room. I had certainly never met anyone like him and it still intrigues me why he was interested in JM. I’m still a little puzzled. Still a little confused. Because a lot about us is really very different. Like I am quite into rock ‘n’ roll and he has obviously nothing at all to do with it. I did say before that I think he needs a good humping and I really believe that. I tell him that about three times a week so you can see that there is a lot more humour in the relationship than everyone thinks. He is certainly the funniest person I know.”
— Johnny Marr, 1985.

“I am shaken when I hear Johnny play guitar, because he is quite obviously gifted and almost unnaturally multi-talented. Since he shows an exact perspective on all things, I can’t help but wonder: What is he doing here with me? Formulating writing systems and mapping out how best to blend our dual natures – here, against the hiss of the paraffin lamp, and me wrapped in the sanctity of an enormous overcoat acquired in a Denver charity shop for $5. Why has Johnny not already sprayed his mark – elsewhere, with others less scarred and less complicated than I am? It seemed to me that Johnny had enough spark and determination to push his way in amongst Manchester’s headhunters – yet here he was, with someone whose natural bearing discouraged openness. Stranger still, we get on very well. It is a matter of finding yourself in possession of the one vital facet that the other lacks, but needs.” Morrissey (Autobiography)

Q: Do you love Johnny Marr? 

Morrissey: “Yes… that’s not a hard one. I loved and love Johnny Marr.” (Q, 1994).

“The thing that brought us really close together is the essence of why Morrissey lives his life and why I live my life.Without the art of pop music and pop culture, life doesn’t make any sense. It was a pretty serious, deep need. It wasn’t just the need to escape our social situation, because underneath it all, one of the things that makes us the same is that we’re both incredibly sensitive. There was this burden with serious mental problems that were taken care of by records.”— Johnny Marr 

“After the first meeting [with Morrissey] we really couldn’t get together often enough” says Marr. “It was a few times a week. We got a hell of a lot done in that first month”. They were, Marr admits, in awe of one another’s potential. “He and I almost had this unspoken relationship where we were both able to be ourselves but we both knew how important we were to each other. What shouldn’t be forgotten is that we really, really liked each other. It wasn’t some business arrangement or relationship of convenience. There was intrigue and understanding because as different as we were, the thing that was paramount inside each of us was pop records and that absolute promise of escape. And he understood that without us ever having to talk about it”. (Simon Goddard)

"We Loved Each Other” - Johnny Marr

“Angel, Angel, Down We Go Together” was written with Johnny Marr in mind and it is the only song I have written with him in mind, post-smiths.“   Morrissey - Mojo Magazine 2002

"Sometimes, I think all he needs is a good humping”   Johnny Marr about Morrissey

anonymous asked:

could you compile a guide to the smiths, please?

The Band

Johnny Marr

  • John Martin Maher, aka the Angel of Radness
  • guitarist
  • legally changed his birth name to Johnny Marr so it would be a pun on the French phrase j’en ai marre (i’m fed up)
  • the most precious, the most pure, the most rad of all the cinnamon rolls that ever have been or ever will be, the most unproblematic of all faves
  • im not even kidding he has never done anything terrible in his life you will find no reciepts, everyone loves him, no one has ever said a bad word about him 
  • the greatest guitarist of his generation, quite literally changed the face of british pop and rock, entirely possible that without him there would be no such thing as indie or alternative music today
  • married to the wondrous Angie (they left school together when they were 15 and have been together ever since). they have two grown up kids and a dog called Riff
  • hes super healthy he doesnt do drugs or smoke or drink AND he’s a vegan and runs like five miles a day
  • he’s fifty one and wears eyeliner and silver nail varnish what does one even say to that
  • the B) emoji is based on johnny marr
  • has an honourary doctorate from salford university so technically he’s Dr. Marr
  • HE’S TINY LOOK AT THIS! HE CANT EVEN REACH THE MIC!
  • you would think that he is too indie pop 4 u but he has a secret life as a FUNK MASTER, his first band was named FREAK PARTY and he’s bffs with The Nile Rogers and named his son after him (exhibit a: johnny gets down and funky with chic)
  • oh ye i made eye contact with him at a gig and he winked at me
  • sorry this is long and personal but i love my Guitar Dad

Morrissey

  • Stephen Patrick Morrissey, known commonly as just Morrissey, but also as Moz, Mozzer, Misery Mozzery, and Steve
  • a twat
  • the word ‘problematic’ was invented specifically for morrissey
  • im just gonna get the bad stuff out the way to start with: has said a bunch of awful racist/misogynistic things, yes he gets taken out of context, no they cannot be justified or excused, he shouldnt say them and it pains my heart to think of it bc everything else he says is so good and wonderful how are they the same man
  • moving on
  • likes: manchester, tea, cats, oscar wilde, sixties girl groups, james dean, bikes, flowers, the new york dolls, animals, johnny marr, being alone
  • dislikes: manchester, margaret thatcher, robert smith, the monarchy, the meat industry, people who eat meat, people in general, being alive
  • has very few friendships or relationships and just sort of lives alone with his cats
  • a fan once wrote to him and told him she felt self concious wearing her hearing aid to a gig and after that he used to wear hearing aids onstage :)
  • other things he liked to do onstage: swing around large bunches of flowers and stuff them in his arse pocket, lie on the floor, hug fans (it became a problem), write things on his chest and rip off his shirt to reveal the message, yodel
  • “I have always personally been starved of romance. However, in 1982 someone stepped on my foot in Woolworths. That’s about the closest I’ve got.”
  • he used to say he was asexual in the eighties and then said he wasnt and was only celibate and most recently said he was “humansexual” (”attracted to human beings - but not many”) but im woefully uninformed on this topic someone else can help you perhaps before i put my foot in it and say the wrong thing
  • always really really sweet to his fans he used to always respond to fanmail in the eighties and its just? really sweet? i mean he also hates all humanity so its a weird dichotomy but
  • when he published his biography in 2013 is was entitled “Autobiography” and published on release by penguin classics
  • honestly its a real/love hate thing? either you despise every hair in his quiff or you would die for him theres no inbetween

Andy Rourke

  • Andrew Rourke
  • bassist
  • oh andy
  • sweet sweet precious andy
  • childhood friend of johnny marr, left school with johnny and angie, was in Freak Party with johnny
  • SUCH! A GOOD! BASSIST!
  • I MEAN LISTEN TO THIS!!
  • honestly just! the most beautiful
  • oh yeah he had a daughter at nineteen so all those photos of andy in the smiths are photos of an Actual Father, a bona fide Hot Dad
  • what else is there to say i love andy

Mike Joyce

  • drummer
  • aka “””Milk Juice””” (thats a tumblr fandom thing tho dont take that into the real world)
  • oh wait someone already did
  • there’s a bit of bitterness here bc he sued moz and marr in 1996 for a 25% share of the smiths royalties (expect lots of 25% jokes)
  • please dont hate him tho hes a good man and an excellent drummer
  • morrissey wishes him “the very worst for the rest of his life”
  • he used to be in a punk band its very  ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Craig Gannon

  • the hidden fifth smith not so many people know about him
  • in 1986 andy was fired from the smiths (for his drug use i think), legend says that he woke up one morning to find a postcard from morrissey on the windscreen of his car which said “You have left The Smiths” (morrissey denies this but andy doesnt and honestly i believe andy over moz) (also im very sketchy on the details so dont eat me)
  • he was gone for two weeks and in the meantime craig gannon took over on bass, but when andy came back he stayed on as rythym guitarist and played on a few tracks and toured with them
  • a good and beautiful guy honestly (tho i think he also sued for royalties so :/)
  • here he is (to the left of morrissey)

sorry abt the pic they just look really good here and i want to cry

  • the smiths formed in manchester in 1982 when johnny marr knocked on morrisseys front door and pressed his face to the glass. please read this article abt the whole thing i cry
  • morrissey descibes their meeting. im fine :) (thats me screamin with my mouth closed)
  • what can i say? johnny and moz were phenomenal together they wrote so many good songs (they wrote ‘half a person’ in four and a half minutes! FOUR AND A HALF MINUTES!)
  • He was different with me than he was with everybody else. I couldn’t have given my music to anybody - anybody else, and he appreciated it more, because he just fell in love with it, and that went on all the way through the band. In many ways he was my biggest fan really.” - Johnny Marr
  • but they were only together for five years :( johnny and morrissey fell out and everything got really stressful and. yeah ill just give some quotes bc im sad
  • “One night we had a conversation and he said “ I think it’s about time and I’ve had enough” and I was saying “Yes I understand” but I really didn’t mean it I really didn’t think he’d completely pull the plug.” - Morrissey
  • “Morrissey asked me to do a farewell gig at one point, but I said no. It just seemed like a bad idea… We actually got together a few times [afterwards]. We went for a walk in the country, we went out to dinner one night, and later we just went for a long drive. It was really good to see each other away from any scenes. Like everyone, in private we’re quite different characters. I know the real Morrissey and he knows the real me.” - Johnny Marr
  • “I think Johnny understood Morrissey more than anyone else in the world… It was almost illogical, the gulf that was coming between Johnny and Morrissey, and you couldn’t put it down to any one thing. Again, it was almost like Morrissey living out his doomed fantasies. I think at some point one of them thought, “I can’t do this. You’re saying you want to be on in this stuff but when I move towards you, you move away. Or vice versa. There’s no rhythm between us.” Whereas before, they were finishing each other’s sentences.” - Grant Showbiz (sound engineer)
  • and then johnny wrote moz this letter which he kept and kept and printed in his autobio in 2013 more than 25 years later :) :)) :))))))

The Albums

The Smiths

  • their first album and one dear to my heart
  • recieves a lot of criticism from fans and the band bc of the mess surrounding production and the poor sound quality but! who cares its beautiful
  • caused quite a stir when it came out bc it was so subversive and unapologetically Not About Hetero Romance so the press were scratching their heads a lot
  • the first single had this cover and andy talks about the mortification he felt trying to show his dad his bands first single can u imagine
  • tbh the subject matter is very weird and ambiguous and a bit morbid (theres a song about the moors murders for example) but its also very sweet and funny. typical smiths tbh
  • the cover is a still from an Andy Warhol film called ‘Flesh’ but morrissey wrote the album notes as CULLED FROM ANDY WARHOLS FLESH which sounds a lot more ominous

Hatful of Hollow

  • a compilation album
  • unhappy with the quality of The Smiths the band decided to put out a compilation early on
  • essential listening tbh - u will learn soon enough that all smiths compilations are necessary
  • oh yeah some smiths records had a secret etched message from morrissey. on this album: THE IMPOTENCE OF ERNEST/IAN (ian was johnnys brother)

Meat Is Murder

  • the album that inspired a generation of vegetarians
  • ITS SO GOOD i cant ever stop listening to it tbh
  • so so many classic tracks
  • a bit more stridently political (vegetarianism, jabs at the monarchy and english school system, railing against the injustices of corporal punishment)
  • secret etching: ILLNESS IS ART / DOING THE WYTHENSHAWE WALTZ

The Queen Is Dead

  • considered by many to be their finest album (not by the band tho they think strangeways is the best)
  • every single track on here is so sublimley good how do you even articulate your feelings towards i know its over or frankly mr shankly or some girls are bigger than others WHAT DO I SAY
  • THE BOY WITH THE THORN IN HIS SIDE. CEMETRY GATES. THERE IS A LIGHT THAT NEVER GOES OUT.
  • secret etching: FEAR OF MANCHESTER / THEM WAS ROTTEN DAYS

The World Won’t Listen

  • personally this is my favourite smiths compilation altho its often overlooked bc most of the tracks appear elsewhere
  • HOWEVER it contains stretch out and wait and money changes everything so its like. objectively the best (fight me irl)

Louder Than Bombs

  • the better known american compilation album
  • REALLY REALLY ESSENTIAL SONGS its so good i love it

Strangeways, Here We Come

  • the last studio album :(
  • technically and musically their best its really ~experimental~ and different (for them)
  • Morrissey -  “We say [that it’s our best album] quite often. At the same time. In our sleep. But in different beds.”
  • features moz on piano in death of a disco dancer
  • title refers to strangeways prison in manchester
  • im gona weep if ur gonna go this is the way to do it
  • secret etching: GUY FAWKES WAS A GENIUS

Rank

  • the posthumous live album
  • released as a contractual obligation so mozzer had to pick all the tracks by himself after they’d broken up :(
  • he wanted to call it The Smiths In Heat but the label wouldn’t let him
  • contains the instrumental track The Draize Train and a really neat Marie’s The Name (Of His Latest Flame)/Rusholme Ruffians mashup
  • feat. craig gannon on guitar
  • anyway its really good
  • secret etching: PEEPHOLISM

Other Projects

Morrissey’s Solo Career

  • moz went solo after the smiths broke up and hes been massivley successful
  • the sideburns got more intense and he gradually got grumpier and grumpier
  • idk this is just my opinion but i feel that solo moz is a very different creature to smiths moz? sort of. less tender and gentle? there’s a line from i know its over that says “its so easy to laugh/its so easy to hate/it takes strength to be gentle and kind” and i feel maybe solo moz stopped caring about that so much. not that he was incapable of it -theres a lot of heartbreakingly good stuff he wrote as a solo artist- but i feel he tends more towards sarcasm and polemic than the dry humor he had in the smiths
  • THAT BEING SAID i love solo moz’s stuff there’s some glorious stuff in here so to all the angry asks im gonna recieve i say its just my opinion please dont eat me alive
  • hes released 10 studio albums as a solo artist; Viva Hate, Kill Uncle, Your Arsenal, Vauxhall And I, Southpaw Grammar, Maladjusted, You Are The Quarry, Ringleader Of The Tormentors, Years Of Refusal, and World Peace Is None Of Your Business
  • hours of entertainment can be gleaned from merely perusing the titles of solo morrissey tracks, do yourself a favour and have a look

Electronic

  • after he left the smiths johnny formed an ALTERNATIVE DANCE SUPERGROUP with New Order frontman Bernard Sumner and occasionally with Neil Tennant of the Pet Shop Boys
  • its pretty much the greatest thing that ever happened to me its the perfect intesection of every one of my interests
  • three albums; Electronic, Raise The Pressure, Twisted Tenderness
  • they never officially dissolved things but they havent really been active since 1999 so

Johnny’s Other Projects

johnny is a massively prolific musician and has collaborated with almost everyone on the planet, including but not limited to:

  • paul mc cartney
  • the pretenders
  • the the
  • bryan ferry
  • billy bragg
  • kirsty mccoll
  • talking heads
  • beck
  • oasis
  • then he had a sort of band called Johnny Marr + The Healers and they had one album (Boomslang)
  • and then he was the guitarist for Modest Mouse for three years
  • and then he was The Cribs guitarist
  • helped hans zimmer with the soundtrack for inception and amazing spider-man 2, is working on something else with him atm i think
  • then in 2013 he went solo! he sang on his own album! everyone died bc who knew that Guitar Dad had such a beautiful voice!
  • his two solo albums are The Messenger and Playland
  • and then he played on Noel Gallagher’s Ballad Of The Mighty I and we all died a bit more

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