Janie can you talk to me about brienne? You dont think she will truly betray love of her life jaime do you? I cant help but think that would dishonor her and it would be awesome if she has to break an oath for the greater good as he once did. ❤
HELLO ANON PLEASE LET’S GO OVER MY PET THEORIES RE HOW THE BRIENNE/JAIME/LS SITUATION IS GOING DOWN
- okay so, let’s remember one fundamental thing first: she was about to get hanged for him. she refused to make the choice stoneheart offered her, which means she already broke an oath she swore her for jaime. and that she was going to die so that she wouldn’t have to kill him.
- now, she didn’t, of course, because she’s a nice decent person and she doesn’t want hyle and pod to die with her when they were just along for the ride, and we all know she lied her ass off to jaime to convince him to come alone.
- deduction first: she’s indeed bringing him to lady stoneheart, because she wants to save pod and hyle, otherwise she’d be dead already.
- other thing that we should take into account when discussing that situation: at the end of adwd, cersei asks kevan where jaime is. the focus is usually on the fact that she’s 100% sure that jaime couldn’t have gone off with brienne rather than go back to her, but what’s more important imo is that kevan says jaime went off with brienne weeks before or at least a considerable amount of time has passed since anyone had news of him. now, I don’t think that if either of them died but especially if brienne had killed jaime or let the brotherhood kill him, the body wouldn’t have been found? especially when they haven’t hidden frey bodies? like let’s be real, they’d have found his head already.
- deduction second: whatever goes down with lady stoneheart, doesn’t kill jaime and doesn’t make him go back to his army.
- now, what has jaime done when he was fifteen? swore himself to an insane king who he had to kill for the greater good and that was the tombstone over his assumption that knightly ideals/oaths actually mattered anything, since no one asked him why, no one realized that he had saved people’s lives and just labeled him dishonorable (this after he spent two years developing ptsd from the ripe age of fifteen wow), and killing aerys was what pretty much sealed the deal and turned him that bitter at the ripe age of seventeen.
- except that then brienne - who’s like, eighteen or nineteen so very close to his kingslayng age in canon - went and kickstarted his knightly instincts again by showing him that True Knights TM Who Still Believe In Oaths exist, and when she comes to get him (lying) in adwd he’s… just, being very rational about all of that, and let’s remember that he managed to get riverrun to surrender without raising arms against the tullys therefore not breaking his oath to catelyn. ops.
- now, while brienne kickstarted his knightly instincts, he also gave her a very healthy lesson in ‘the world isn’t black and white and oaths aren’t everything’, which she really needed, and we saw the results in affc - we don’t have her acok povs, but it’s obvious that it’s not the same person who swore fealty to renly and that she can see jaime’s point - and that’s she’s in love with him, but never mind. what brienne hasn’t had, though, is the moment where her vows are actually tested and she has to put them against losing what she loves and/or doing the right thing, which is… what jaime had to do with aerys.
- and who is lady stoneheart rn? the person brienne swore herself to and who’s gone utterly insane and is not who she chose to serve anymore, and who’s asking her to choose between her oath and jaime’s life.
- also, who loves parallels? grrm. he loves them a lot.
- deduction three: brienne brings indeed jaime to lady stoneheart, but then instead of handing him over or killing him herself (which is most probably what they’ll ask her to do) she’s going to kill LS instead therefore LS becomes her aerys, which would come very close to make her lose a lot of force of will/her drive, except that who’s there and has gone through all that process already and has found out he doesn’t indeed have shit for honor? jaime.
- now, in between the brotherhood, hyle and pod, someone is going to inform him that brienne would have died for him if other people’s lives weren’t at stake. I don’t think jaime’s been in the position of hearing someone’s willing to die for him lately or at any point in his life tbh. and if something would make you realize that you’re into someone but you haven’t realized it yet, I think hearing that they were willing to die for you might do the trick.
- also someone is going to need to make sure she doesn’t feel extra dishonorable for killing LS (or better, putting her out of her misery) and like I really dig the idea that jaime might be there to make sure brienne doesn’t turn into him post-aerys.
- given all of the above, I think it’s at least likely that this is what brings them together (I mean, if they ever act on their feelings it’s either here or nowhere, or at least later would be a lot more complicated) and somewhat likely that jaime never went back to his army (and he didn’t want to go back to KL in his last adwd chapter) because he’s off with brienne to look for sansa or something of the kind, but I’m betting money on the two of them plus possibly hyle/pod going to the vale or something of the kind after brienne kills LS aerys-style and jaime gives her some serious pep talk about her having done it not making her dishonorable since according to her he’s not dishonorable for killing aerys, right? right.
- tldr: of course she’s not truly betraying the love of her life. and she’s definitely going full circle with the LS/aerys parallel, same as jaime’s gonna go full circle with his newly re-found honor/going back somewhat/as much as possible to the person he was before he went into the kingsguard (spoilers: not a bad one, let’s all remember that he wanted to be arthur dayne and turned out being the smiling knight ACCORDING TO HIS OWN WORDS), which means they’ll have gone through all the necessary character development they needed to move forward with their lives.
- which, obviously, according to me means they’re moving on together but of course we shall see on that.
anyway. these were my two cents, thanks for the attention. ;)