Does anyone else feel that Watt pad is kind of like the Craigslist for fanfiction? Like it’s kind of good quality but sometimes you have to weed out the bad ones to find the one semi-medium-Ok fic of your rare pairing. Anyone else feel that way about Craigsli- I mean WattPad?
It’s gotten to the point where I want to listen to old Gorillaz but I can’t because it’s just too sad for me. Like, post Plastic Beach are just super sad memories. I physically can’t listen to old songs, like I can’t I will cry so hard. I’m crying right now. And don’t even get me started ON Plastic Beach. Broken? Tears. To Binge? Double tears oh my gosh. On Melancholy Hill? I’m on the floor sobbing. People that don’t know Gorillaz lore are probably like, “It’s just a song jeez” NO!!! DO YOU UNDERSTAND??? It was so happy before Plastic Beach. Muds was a horrible person, but at least he sort of got along with people. Plastic Beach is when Murdoc went insane, kidnapped a bunch of artists, we thought Noodle was DEAD, and worst of all 2D was forced to do vocals. I know they’re a virtual band but I can’t help but hear sadness in Damon’s voice in Plastic Beach songs. Like I just always picture 2D being forced to sing, and then going back to his small room and crying himself to sleep. And like, of course it had to be Murdoc who did that to him, the dude he trusts enough to stay in his band after he…..well ruined his life pretty much. Drove away his girlfriends, fucked up his face pertinently, and hit him. He hit 2D how can anyone hit 2D. HOW. He yells at him constantly ad yeah 2D was afraid of him but he still trusted him and wanted to be best friends. Literally all he wants is to hang out with Muds and get attention from him. Now it’s phase 4 and what’s happened? Nothing really. Virtually no lore whatsoever, and NO EXPLANATION OF WHY MURDOC IS KINDA TREATING HIM NICELY NOW. I want to go back to phase 3 honestly. I want things to actually work out, for Murdoc to try to fix his relationship not just with Stu, but with the whole band, and I want an APOLOGY. I would give so much money just to get Murdoc realizing he’s been a piece of shit to everyone and that 2D’s been trying to help him but he’s just been pushing him away, TO BE AN ACTUAL CANON THING THAT HAPPENS IN THE STORY. Oh and lets not forget, to add to all the sadness: Murdoc was treated horribly as a kid? Beaten by his father? And fucking raped at a young age? It scarred him for life and really messed with his head. I’m not saying this excuses anything he’s done to 2D, but I get sick of people treating him like he is an absolute monster. He’s still a person, and he’s had very bad things done to him. CAN 2D JUST SLAP MURDOC IN THE FACE AND BE LIKE “CAN WE JUST BE HAPPY PLEASE??” Yes I’m happy that Murdoc is treating 2D like a friend again in this phase, but it’s kind of bittersweet. There’s no explanation. Nothing from Plastic Beach has really been resolved, and there’s nothing that suggests they might have gone to therapy to fix their relationship. So far I’m not really liking this phase, I’m sorry. Just my personal opinion.
okay so i was having thoughts this morning about how i believe that obi-wan was probably t h e best master for anakin under the circumstances (and a few others) and how as much as i hate predestination, if you accept anakin as (one of?) the chosen one(s), then he is fated to bring about the fall of the Jedi - cos you can’t have balance when the lightside outnumbers the darkside by as much as it does. and i started thinking about how what if the universes where obi-wan is his master greatly delays him fucking off to the darkside and bringing about the end of the Order? well, he was all of 23 when that happened, which means in other universes, where obi-wan is not his master, he probably abandons the order much younger than that.
okay, so - an au where.
an au where qui-gon lives. despite reasons why it probably wouldn’t happen, he becomes anakin’s master, obi-wan fucks off to do Knight Things and Grow As His Own Person. anakin has his canonical crisis of faith and great realization that being a jedi is difficult and not actually all that he thought it was going to be. he fucks off from the order - say around the age of fifteen?
qui-gon, despite everything, goes off to hunt him. despite this “betrayal”. after all, anakin is the chosen one, right? so he even goes so far as to call in obi-wan to help him find anakin. meanwhile, anakin is employing every last trick in the book to remain out of reach. he won’t go back - he won’t. he can do more good out there in the galaxy, instead of tied down by the (hostile, tbh) jedi order.
it just so happens that obi-wan finds him. rather than try to arrest him or anything (leaving the order is not a ‘take into custody’ offense, as obi-wan well knows) and actually talks to anakin about the reasons why he’s fucked off. he finds the reasons understandable. besides, becoming a jedi is not being conscripted. anakin has the right to leave if he feels like it. obi-wan tells him that it’s fucking dangerous for a half-trained force sensitive out there in the wild galaxy, but when anakin doesn’t change his mind (because he’s hella stubborn tbh) obi-wan is just like “welp” and lets him go. he tells qui-gon he never found anakin, but that it’s really unreasonable to hunt the kid down for fucking off. it’s another thing that qui-gon and obi-wan don’t see eye-to-eye with.
so that’s that, right? they’ll never see the chosen one again.
but wait, there’s more. So of course the Sith find anakin. he must bring balance to the force. Dooku and Sidious play bad cop/good cop until anakin is firmly under Sidious’ thumb. (presumably, Qui-gon would have found nine hundred different ways to keep anakin away from palpatine, who might even have been the one to plant the idea of running off into anakin’s head on the few times when he was allowed to speak with the kid). anakin goes corrupt, as you do when siths are fucking with your head, and the story proceeds.
here it is, the fall of the jedi order, and order 66.
ymmv what happens to qui-gon. does he live through even this? or is he shot down protecting obi-wan? in either case, obi-wan survives as he tends to, trying to regroup with the rest of the surviving Jedi. of course, you have this wretched sith lord, Darth Vader, hunting them all down. his skill with a blade is unparalleled. no jedi who has faced him has survived.
when he finds them, obi-wan stays back, sacrificing himself to save the others. and yet, to his surprise, darth vader does not kill him. darth vader himself does not understand entirely why, only that once when he was very young, a jedi heard him out and let him go.
he does not let obi-wan go, but neither does his blade fall.
ur post about fic & racism in the supergirl fandom really got me thinking (especially about my own biases so thank you) but also like, how there’s this incredibly pervasive but subtle new form of racism I haven’t seen b4 in other fandoms? Like on one hand u have this loud condemnation of how racist monel is & how he was a slave owner blabh blah but no corresponding attention given to the existing Black characters. 1/4
I get wlw not wanting to write m/f fic but a lot of the fandom doesn’t reblog (or make) any of the gifsets, they don’t meta for him they don’t call for more screen time for Mehcad. Same for M’gann. SO many posts talking about how awful monel is compare him to Lena and strangely don’t mention the Black female character who also came from an oppressive society to become a hero? And there are like, idk, 4 people? Who write or post wlw fic with M’gann in it? 2/4
Same with Maggie. A huge segment of fandom decided Floriana is white (even tho hollywood clearly won’t cast her in roles for white women) so they use that as an excuse to exclusively stan the very light skinned white wlw. And the way it carries over to the characters, like, okay Flo is white? but Maggie is absolutely treated like a woc in how parts of fandom aggressively ignore her & find ways to demonize her character while overtly supporting lighter skinned characters ¾
And that same part of the fandom doesn’t ever seem to create content for Lucy or Vasquez either. IDK this isn’t something u can probably explore with stats but ur post really got me thinking and it just feels really gross now bc I see all these posts condemning racism but there’s still this extreme perpetuation of privileging white characters at the same time? & I haven’t seen this particular trend in fandom b4 4/4
Oh, anon, this made my day. I have a bunch of notes waiting in a doc to address the whole Mon-El thing with regard to the racist undertones and the rhetoric used by the show to frame his storyline, and I will do my best to write it before the season comes back again, because I genuinely think they tried to aim high and just … missed completely. (But I make no promises because my thesis defense is on Tuesday.)
To your first point re: fandom attitudes – I was surprised in the early half of S2 when so many people came out of the woodwork making posts in the main tag like “wait, why did they get rid of Kara/James??” because, oh right, nobody acted like they cared for almost twelve straight months. If y’all were so okay with this ship, where were you to acknowledge its social significance when it was canon? Where are you now? Why hasn’t there been an outpouring of tweets week after week at the execs and the writers for sidelining an interracial couple in favor of what we’re getting, especially since the storyline literally handwaved away human trafficking and slavery as minor plot points?
Not only that, when there’s unrealized potential for a non-canon ship there is typically an outpouring of fic in response, and while there’s been a statistically significant amount of new Karolsen fic in S2 because it’s pretty easy to top zero percent, the writing there is not keeping pace with any of the other dude-involved pairings.
And you’re right, anon: it is not possible to prove anything with stats. HOWEVER, thanks to the addition of these new characters for S2, I *am* at the point now where it’s possible to see correlation between character race and fan engagement with different pairing choices. And the bias is there, whether it’s in the het pairings, the femslash, or even the m/m pairings. The whole reason I started tracking fic outputs in the first place was that any attempt to have this conversation last year devolved into yelling and finger-pointing because “you have no proof!” that racial bias is a thing. Except, yanno, all the POC who live with it daily saying that it’s a thing. Well, congratulations y’all: your choices leave digital footprints behind that are pretty easy to follow and chart for everyone to see.
This isn’t actually a new problem, by the way – racism and preferencing of white pairing happens a lot, in almost every fandom. The only difference maybe is that I’ve experimented with quantifying it, which is not something that people usually do when they study fandoms or fan behavior.
It pains me to no end that M’gann has been so overlooked, because her story has just as many dark character beats to it as Lena’s, if not more, plus the added bonus of her sharing a sense of “otherness” with Kara in a way that few other people can. And there is no way the disinterest in that pairing isn’t about race, because there are a whole bunch of ships from S1 between white women who’d never even met each other in canon that have more romantic fics than M’gann/anyone.
And the nonsense about Floriana, which I’ll remind everyone again was started by a white girl, had a demonstrable chilling effect on interest in Sanvers as a pairing. Like. I can actually show that on paper. And you’re absolutely right with what you said above, which bears repeating: Maggie is absolutely treated like a woc in how parts of fandom aggressively ignore her & find ways to demonize her character.
There’s also a treatment of Floriana herself that reminds me uncomfortably of how people went out of their way to demonize Naya Rivera’s personal life whenever she reminded the world she was black instead of just “very tan.” And a lot of the rhetoric people are using to talk about Floriana’s racial heritage is almost verbatim the same as what you’ll find on white supremacist discussion boards about Italian people. I’d love to think this is an accident, but I’ve made some people pretty angry for pointing this out in the past, so I suspect it’s at least partially deliberate.
Lucy was another case that drove me insane, for two reasons:
The vast majority of femslash fans flat-out ignored her as a romantic choice even though there were a whole lot of good reasons to ship her with either Kara orAlex, and a whole lot less negative reasons not to. (And it’s not like Supercat was already dominating the scene before Lucy’s character was introduced. That ship only became popular after the movie Carol came out during the winter hiatus of S1.)
People had the same fight last year about whether or not Lucy counted as a WOC and ultimately insisted that the answer was no. But then people kept on ignoring her anyway like somehow dubiously legal boss/employee relationships, potential treason, and incest were more logical bases for attraction.
Also, to the people who have been like “oh yay we could’ve had Dichen as Maggie, a real WOC” like somehow this would have made the fandom love her more – you’re full of shit. If you mean that, why has there been so little fic about Dichen as Roulette? Like, last year there were a whole bunch of shipfics featuring Livewire. There was Kara/Siobhan. And yet … no dark scenarios of Supergirl/Roulette? No Alex ones? There were even a bucketload of those for each Danvers sister + Max Lord, and this fandom isn’t even that into dudes. You’re telling me no one is interested in this kind of hero/villain dynamic with the Asian chick and somehow that’s not also about race?
tl;dr I suspect that a decent chunk of this problem is the result of subconscious bias, but some of it’s not. And what’s really sad about it is that, for all the talk on Tumblr about representation being important, we’re really doing no better as media producers than Hollywood when it comes to race. If anything, we might actually be doing worse.
Ok so I saw this brilliant post by @rubyleaf this morning so I whipped this up (pardon any mistakes)! I did change the concept a bit tho! In this version, when they’re apart they don’t only miss each other, but they feel pain :) Anyway made this a hurt\comfort kinda thing… it’s kinda vague, so excuse my dull brain and enjoy!
He had no idea how long he was running for. He felt like he was carrying the weight of the world, but he kept running.
He felt pain spreading in his body, his head pounding like a drum and shaking him to his core. He was still running, and through the suffering his body endured he wondered what changed.
He had an urge to stop and never move again. Despite that, he kept running, because he knew the pain will worsen if he stops. So he ran aimlessly, unsure of where he’s going. He just knew he was going in the right direction.
I’m not even mad about touken being canon, I’m just really disappointed and hurt. Fight with me all you like but to me it feels like a cop out. I would have liked the pairing if there was actual build up to it. This is why I ship Shuuneki so hard because there’s substance and complex feelings there. It’s not just two characters thrown together because it’s convenient. Did we get to see kaneki’s and Touka’s relationship evolve over multiple story arcs? No.
It’s hard for me to put my thoughts and feelings into words but think about it this way, if Touka was a male and Tsukiyama was a female do you honestly think it would be the same? Taking into account how much Kaneki and Tsukiyama’s relationship has evolved and all the complex feelings due to what’s happened between them, do you 100% honestly think Kaneki would still have ended up with Touka even if she were a male?
So, I’ve had this headcanon that, at one time through his life Emil would have tried getting closer to Michele using Italian pick-up lines. Obviously, it was not so much of a success. Here it goes:
He asked Sara for tips on how to get that oblivious Italian to realize he had been in love with him for ages (because obviously, not everyone is as blind as Mickey)
Sara thought it would be fun teaching him a few pick-up lines in Italian.
And maybe she should have written them down to him somewhere, because Emil ended up messing them up comletely. (“Hey, Mickey! Mi ero perso nei tuoi oli.” “Do you mean occhi?” “Maybe?”) Because, frankly, he had no idea what he was saying.
It took Michele only two of those sentences to get what they were. He only chose to pretend not to. Watching Emil struggling was a lot of fun, even for him. (“Hey, Mickey! Nel cielo manca un congelo!” “Che congelo? Are you cold?” “No?”)
He thought that if he did not react whatsoever, Emil would give up rather quickly. Obviously, it was not knowing him and the whole thing rapidly started to get on Michele’s nerves.
“Hey, Mickey!” “Hey, Emil!” And Emil immediatly shuts up. That’s not everyday he has Michele answering back. “Polib me.” And he’s just left in shock, because Mickey is speaking in Czech and asking him to kiss him. Which he does not. He is too surprised for that.
So Michele did.
“I swear if I ever hear one of those pick-up lines again, I’m punching you in the face.” He said as he took the other’s hand. Emil did not answer back, just laugh because, hey, he had just been kiss by the man he had been running after for months. So, was he in the mood for useless argument? Hell no. (But was he in the mood for a second kiss? Hell yeah!)
(“Mickey, Mickey! Where did you learn Czech?” “Not where you learnt Italian, apparently.”)
Do I need to give the translations? Probably, so here it goes. First one is “I got lost in your oil” (obviously, he meant eyes) And second one is “There is one I am freezing missing in the sky” (he meant angel) As I’m not Italian, only learning, I’m sorry if any of this is wrong!
i know you ship namo (nayeon + momo?) or just like it? but i'm kind of new to twice ships and i haven't seen much of namo so i was wondering if you could like describe their dynamic or why you like it or something ? thanks
*cracks knuckles* my time has come.
(Disclaimer, this isn’t about shipping, this is just my take on their dynamic and why I like it.)
Honestly, (in the kindest possible way) Momo’s a little slow - she attests to this herself, and moreover she’s extraordinarily innocent, and this is largely what defines her relationship with Nayeon.
Firstly, Momo is Nayeon’s #1 victim. No members of twice can be easily fooled by Im Nayeon, no one except Hirai Momo. (There’s an actual 4 minute video out there somewhere of Nayeon tapping Momo whilst she’s not looking and not getting caught, and Momo is utterly clueless. And let’s not forget the ice cream incident in TEPL). Whilst any other member would have probably kicked back at Nayeon’s antics by now, Momo hasn’t. I think it might’ve been Chaeyoung who once said that Momo gets teased a lot by the Twice members, she’s slow but she has a lot of humility, she takes everything on the chin and doesn’t mind being a victim if it makes the other members happy - and no one finds teasing funnier than Nayeon.
Nayeon’s a little clueless too, (the upside-down knife incident, believing her crisp packet was broken because she was holding it the wrong way up, going months using slow 3G on her phone because she forgot to switch on her data), but she’s mature in ways Momo isn’t. She’s over a year older than any of the other members, and has said before that she sees it as her responsibility to look after the youngest members - particularly Chaeyoung and Tzuyu, and I honestly believe she puts Momo in this category too, despite Momo being the third oldest. She doesn’t baby Momo like she does the maknaes, but Nayeon definitely coddles her, and whilst she’s the first to tease Momo, she’s also the first to protect her. Ever noticed how whenever Momo has an incident, (wardrobe malfunction, accident, etc.), Nayeon is the first by her side, (I can literally name five instances off the top of my head alone). This could be a coincidence, but, think back to a few weeks ago. Whilst rehearsing for TT on a poorly designed stage, Momo almost tumbled right off the side which surely would’ve left her with a bad injury had it not been for Nayeon’s quick intervention. A few days later, Nayeon revealed that she was able to get to Momo in time because she knew that Momo was close to the edge and that Momo “takes big steps” when she walks, and ran over to Momo because she thought her shout wouldn’t be heard over the music - Nayeon knew Momo would hurt herself BEFORE the girl even moved.
Furthermore, whilst she occasionally likes to faux-rebel under the influence of the likes of Jeongyeon, Momo’s naturally obedient, and I think Nayeon especially appreciates this within a group who love to ignore the authority of and mock their ‘eldest unnie’. Momo values Nayeon’s opinion higher than most, (remember when Nayeon off-handedly once said Momo would suit short hair and now Momo won’t stop talking about it), to the point where fans have taken to calling Momo “whipped” by Nayeon.
I like to compare Nayeon to Tinkerbell - she needs applause to live. In the nicest way, she’s a narcissist, she needs compliments and affirmations to survive. And what does Momo do best? (“I like you both ways” “You’re so pretty I didn’t even see the flowers”). Momo doesn’t compliment people selfishly - she doesn’t do it to receive compliments in turn, or to gain favour, it’s genuine, she probably doesn’t even really think before she says them, and that’s probably what makes her ‘flirting’ even more effective. And Nayeon adores it.
Their 'game’ is actually one of the similarities between them, next to Sana, NaMo are probably the second and third best flirts in Twice, (snake line ftw), and neither are strangers to skinship or affection. Whilst their attentions aren’t most frequently turned to each other, (like Sana to Dahyun), when they are, Nayeon and Momo have some of the best (gayest) moments in Twice history. (Remember in TEPL when Momo was giving Nayeon a massage and then just started backhugging her instead and they lay there cuddling? Iconic.) They also play really well together, I think parts of their personalities, particularly their senses of humour, are actually quite similar, (I’d vote them both Most Likely To adopt and raise a family of plushies). They both have fake maknae tendencies in different but equal rights.
Ultimately whilst they can both be slow and flirty, Nayeon’s mature and protective where Momo’s innocent and trusting, their similarities and differences compliment each other equally. That’s why I like them.
Also, one time they just skipped out on filming Twice TV3 to go on a beach date together. Just saying.