hi!, i know you dont believe the Undercover jon theory, but if it were true, what would be your opinion about jon?
Are you asking if I’ll judge him and consider him a rapist?
I know too much/enough about what qualifies as rape to know that if Jon is only doing Dany to fool her into believing he is utterly loyal just because he needs her dragons to save the world- he’s nothing near a rapist. In fact, people who cry and whine about this theory and claim it’s the most horrible thing to suspect and who pretend to be absolutely disgusted by this mortifying unlike-the-Jon-they-think-they-know theory… are being very disrespectful towards actual rape victims. It’s outright offensive.
If this theory turns out to be true I’ll clap because they actually managed to give Jon the wits and character depth he is entitled to and I’ll love the fact that someone saw Daenerys for what she truly is: a lonely, blind, extremely easy to manipulate fool with a staggering lack of self-control who’s looking for nothing but love and companionship in people she can trust, wandering around with the delusion that sitting her ass on a throne will actually give her that- meanwhile being a bratty, whiny, arrogant, dumb, proven to be incapable at ruling child. If Jon played her the way this theory suggests he managed to get exactly what he wanted in a very shrewd way, taking advantage of literally all her weaknesses, which he will have cleverly spotted, also playing Cersei along the way (kudos again) and doing so without actually losing a thing. Except his dignity (😬). But how much does Jon care about that? Because all of it can easily be explained by both Sansa’s ‘don’t trust Cersei’ and ‘don’t be as stupid as Robb’ advice as well as the fact that he died and doesn’t give a crap about honor anymore because wth? there’s nothing after death anyway.
If done well, it could make for good storytelling. Which is exactly why it’s not happening. But I’ve already said that.
This is asoiaf. Jon’s dark stuff shouldn’t shock and offend you, it should excite you. Because even the good guys do evil stuff and that’s actually pretty great, because honestly, you don’t WANT Jon to be the epitome of superhero. That’s boring. If that’s the Jon you want you’re loving the wrong character. Your fan girl tears don’t do him justice. Sometimes people do mean shit for the greater good. It’s actually an interesting part of Jon’s storyline. He learns that what is right is not always easy, and what is right doesn’t always seem right, and sometimes what is wrong feels good. But we do what must be done. Remember? D&D even put it in the show, when they were still trying. It’s in his conversation with Aemon where Jon himself claims his dad Ned would always do what is right. And Aemon doubts that. Because what is right?
Of course it’s not 'right’ to pretend to bend the knee and take advantage of the fact that this girl has literally no idea of Westerosi customs and therefore wouldn’t know you actually have to literally bend your knee and swear an oath with you voice using official words for it to mean (in the books Jojen and Meera swear to Bran with acient words that contains them swearing to 'ice and fire’ just an example, and we’ve all seen Umber and Karstark in episode 7.1)… to take advantage of her loneliness and her eagerness for love… nope, not right nor nice.
But some thing are worse than 'not right’. Some are absolute and utterly wrong. Giving away the North to a foreign invader who has never even set a singly foot in Winterfell, knows nothing of the Wall, of the Neck, of the Wolf’s Wood, of the Old Gods, of White Harbor… yet believes she’s entitled to it just because her insane father once sat upon a chair. To give the North away to someone who has proven to be inpatient, unafraid of violence, arrogant, self-entitled and basically all-around incapable of ruling even a small city. In fact, she brought prosperous cities to starvation and ruin. Giving your home away to someone like that… that’s much much much worse to me. That’s unforgivable.
Playing Daenerys? Lol. No that’s about as easily to forgive as Olenna poisoning Joffrey. To me. But you know how I feel. In the Netherlands we say, 'Het doel heiligt de middelen’. It means, the goals, the end, the purpose, cleans you of the sins you make to reach that. So long as the goal is the right thing.
The North must be protected, the North deserves its goddamn independence. The North deserves a king they chose, the North deserves to be rid of those Targaryens they never wanted in the first place. Jon deserves a storyline and character arch worthy of all he’s been through and all he (didn’t) survive(d).
Daenerys doesn’t deserve a loyal boyfriend who kneels just because she’s crying over her monster child, just because she has a 'good heart’ (🤢). Daenerys doesn’t deserve for the North to fall at her stamping feet when they see her for how amazing she is (🤢). Daenerys doesn’t deserve to rule a land that doesn’t want her, she doesn’t deserve for Jon to fight for her. She sure as hell doesn’t deserve the North.
Jon playing Daenerys to protect the North? Hell yeah, can’t imagine anything better and more in character for the both of them.
I want Jon to have an interesting storyline that isn’t overall boring, stereotypical, ooc, predictable, Dany buttkissing and goddamn cringy.
Unfortunately, D&D don’t have the balls to do it. Because fangirls. And because their head is stuck in Dany’s (*cough* Emilia Clark’s) ass.
How do I feel about Jon if the theory is true? I’ve come to realize that Jon seeing Daenerys for the trash she is might be my actual otp.