i still am confused about something. if gamzee was being mind controlled to do his lord's bidding and shouldn't be blamed for it, didn't he willingly look into caliborn's eyes and continue to follow the church? i know the guy had a rough life, but he did kinda go against his friend's trust and betrayed them
I think you’re misunderstanding between forms of manipulations Gamzee was subjected to.
It’s not Aranea’s mindless stand-in robotic commandery in which his mind is completely shut off to reality.
It’s also not a temporary takeover where he has no knowledge or control over his actions.completely loses it due unleashing his withheld inner rage powers
This is a work of Lil Cal, someone who is main component of sweettalking Doc Scratch. Gamzee did not betray his friends because his friends are either dead
or they aren’t his friends because they can’t compare to the best friend Lil Cal is.
Wouldn’t you like to have such friends?
And by this logic - since they were never his friends to begin with, Lil Cal is the only friend Gamzee has ever had.
It’s a form of hypnotizing brainwashing, Gamzee is controlled by promises he wants to believe in because Gamzee is a believer of faith and a fool (religious objective and objective of a fool trope). It’s comparable to being sucked into a religious cult that promises you a better tomorrow/treatment/life because your current situation sucks, and you somehow end up murdering someone to summon satan and you can’t really tell when or how did it go wrong. When Gamzee has looked Caliborn in the eye
(and he did that at least two times if not many more)
This is a definite stare off. John does the same thing with Caliborn.
he was already fully convinced about the rightousness of the matter. Caliborn is his messiah, he exists, he is facing him after he had raised him from an egg, ergo Lil Cal was right. What’s the worst (or maybe the best? Depends on how you look at it), even if Gamzee has his doubts, he is constantly in contact with things that reassure him that he is doing the right thing.
The bottom line is that Gamzee’s got lost andhe needs help. He isn’t completely blameless like Jane or Jade - but his fault is still a big unknown. Neither Nepeta/Nepetasprite/Davepeta nor Equius/Arquiusprite voice their opinion on Gamzee killing them, Gamzee is not allowed to show remorse or lack of it because author doesn’t allow him to speak or even show his thoughts onscreen - at best we can see he is miserable
but we don’t know what is he thinking. Gamzee, being a fool, also is allowed to think like a fool - so he can show a complete naivety and misunderstanding of the situation where he thinks he is doing a good thing without any sort of malicious intent while he is doing the bad thing.
(also: see Whistles working as a male prostitute without understanding what is he doing, Whistles uncovering horror of the backstage of the Starlight Calliope and failing to understand it’s a bad thing because of his unshakeable faith in Pendlecoat’s so-far-nonexistent good nature).
Punishing a fool who is too naive to understand his wrongdoings is comparable to punishing a child like an adult. A child who has murdered someone (yes, it happens) because it didn’t know that their lack of logic or thoughtlessness will lead to sb’s death doesn’t end with a child in prison for the rest of its life but an intensive help.
Still, we’ve already seen Gamzee being punished physically all around by Terezi (stabbing with canes), Kanaya (kicking the bulge, terrorizing with the clown hunt enough to make him hide in vents, sewing in half), Vriska (slavery, bullying, and fridge torture) and Caliborn (shooting and beating up with a cane) and it didn’t do anything to change the course of action he has taken.
He literally vomits blood and still keeps serving his abuser.
The conclusion is clear: hate and punishment won’t save or change him. Lack of love, friendship and crisis of faith is what pushed him to do it in the first place, therefore the remedy is: love, friendship and regained belief in miracles.
Gamzee’s mech, codenamed Capricorn. I’d love to have a badass quote to insert here about how badass the story is and how badass Gamzee is in the story, but I’m not that witty. I woulda drawn Karkat’s mech Cancer, the nightmarish black and red monster that haunts John’s dreams, but I stay true to my title of Makara trash queen and … yeah. This will not be the last fanart I draw for this story, though, and that’s a promise.
Okay so I am just sort of sick of Gamzee getting the bad end of the stick because of recent upd8s past. Bluh I don’t want to rant but it all aggravates me because now Gamzee is the butt of the jokes and abuse Eridan’s character used to, and probably still if we’re being honest here, get.
STOP REPEATING THE THINGS GAMZEE DID. Yeah, he did bad, shoving it everyone’s faces isn’t gonna change. Instead hope for some REDEMPTION for this troll. Cuz he’s a great character and I love him and I want to SEE him get better.
(it’s hard when you’re a pale porn star and nobody bothers to tell you. It’s hard and literally nobody else has ever been uninformed and gullible enough to end up in that situation before, so nobody understands.)