am i the only CSer who actually likes regina and don't mind/respect the swan queen fandom? lana is a lovely person and some of the swan queen fandom can be very rude (and some of the captain swan fandom too) but at the end of the day people ship who they want to ship and they don't need to bring another fandom down cause they don't agree with them i just wanna say to those swan queen fandom who use respect hook (or don't shine their negativity) you are great!
No, of course not, you’re definitely
not the only one. Lots of us really like Lana/Regina and many of us
also enjoy the Emma/Regina relationship.
The problems within the fandom aren’t
really about the characters or relationships on the show, they’re
about the awful dynamic that’s developed between a lot of the fans.
The truth is that the vast majority of people in both the SQ and CS
fandoms are lovely, respectful people who just want to ship their
thing in peace. But they’re often drowned out by the people who can’t
just ship and let ship and have to try and ruin anything good the other ship gets.
The people who are the most hateful in
this (and all) fandoms are also the most vocal and prolific. They’re
the ones that throw hate into the tags for everyone to see or add
unnecessarily nasty comments on every single OUAT article or tweet. But they’re definitely not representative of the entire fandom, they just think they are.
And I think after so many years of this
dynamic, a lot of even the most tolerant people have reached the end
of their tether and have started to snap.
So for the past few hours all the lovely angels from the discord chat have been bouncing all our thoughts and theories around Until @newlevelofdesperate and I actually ended up with a pretty realistic theory as to how all this shit is really going to go down yo
So get yourselves a nice cup of tea and settle in because this gets looooong
Mikael, Even and Yousef –
It’s pretty evident that whatever went down in Bakka involved all three of these guys. But I feel like one of the most reasonable explanations here is that Mikael, Yousef and Even were friends. Really good friends. Possibly they knew each other since middle school (like Jonas and Isak) but then Yousef and Mikael began to become distant to Even and instead began to hung out with the balloon squad. Boys who are also involved in Islam. This, we then feel may have prompted Even to learn the Quran, as a desperate attempt to cling onto the friends he could only fear of losing. Of not wanting to be alone.
We then feel like this led him to do something during his mania that ostracised him completely from his school and everyone he knew. We can see from the youtube video that the balloon squad reacted to Even’s name like it was nothing but a joke and an exciting story to tell, which is how we feel everyone around Even treated it. While Mikael and Yousef didn’t have anything to do with the incident or with how people treated Even afterwards, they also didn’t do anything to help Even during the times he needed them either. And we think that is what is eating them both up. The guilt that they weren’t the kind of friends Even needed and left him at a time where he needed them more than ever. Yousef also seems a hell of a lot more emotionally affected by whatever Even did at Bakka, which is why we believe that Evens Bakka story is a lot more directed at Yousef than Mikael who we originally focused on in association with Even’s history. And this is why Yousef’s reaction to Even’s name in the youtube video was a lot more emotional than Mikaels and the boys (who weren’t really emotionally attached at all)
But then of course….what did he do?
Russbuss has always been an important factor to Sana and is continuing to have an importance in her season and her need to prove that she can belong in both worlds, the one with her faith, and the one where she can participate in Norwegian culture and still be Sana. We feel like this could become a problem for her later on. Perhaps the girls eventually succumb to the russbuss previously known as Pepsi Max’s bus. And Sana is not allowed to join because of her faith.
This then made us think that maybe Even’s story connects with his russbuss too. Maybe russbuss is a much bigger theme than we ever thought. The thought came up that perhaps Even wanted to join the russ with his friends Mikael and Yousef, but wasn’t allowed because he isn’t muslim. Maybe that prompted him to learn the quaran? And maybe that is what led him to do something during his mania. Something to the buss perhaps? Just like Sana who is having trouble being a part of a russ because she’s muslim….maybe Even couldn’t join because he wasn’t? Maybe Even wanted so desperately to understand his friends and their religion but no one ever let him? And in doing so, they also failed to understand Even. It was also brought up in the discord chat that Even doesn’t seem like the russbuss type which we agree with, but it makes a lot of sense that Even would do anything to hang onto his friends and the people who he could always rely on (we have seen him do this with Sonja in s3) and when those things didn’t work, the concept of him saying, writing or doing things connected to this struggle during his mania makes even more sense. And to connect the current russbuss drama with the old would be an interesting reflection on both characters and stories.
Even and Sana Mirror
@heltchill brought up this idea that Even may actually be Sana’s mirror, which prompted another discussion on this theory.
We already talked about Even who could have experienced the same challenges that Sana might face this season with the russbus. While Even may have been left out for not being a Muslim , people keep reminding Sana that she doesn’t fit into the concept of the russbus. Mari’s reaction to Sana being a part of the russbuss was very surprised and a little offputting, while Sara made a point of referring herself and her group as superior because they are “normal Norwegian party girls” a comment that fuelled Sana to truly make this russbuss work. And then of course there is Elias, who warned Sana that she shouldn’t be on a russbus because she is a muslim girl. Yousefs reaction here is interesting as he seems annoyed by Elias’s words and he sends Sana a message later on where he encourages her to go for the russbus. This could also be a hint, that Yousef still feels guilty about Even and doesn’t want Sana (or anyone) else to face the kind of exclusion that Even may have faced. We also had a thought that maybe the reason this season parallels evak so much is because Even is actually Sana’s mirror? Julie wants us to feel all of the Even emotions again because his story actually mirrors Sana’s so much, we just need to pay attention to the signs. Maybe.
In regards to the trailer: The trailer made us all assume that the series of events happens in an order, because it was in slow motion each piece of the puzzle fell one at a time. But in reality they all happened extremely fast all at once like a domino effect. So instead of waiting for each story to fall, we should be expecting them all to fall at once. The last episode proves this, by each clip being the start of a separate storyline. Yousana, Noorhell mystery + Vilde and Magnus, Evak and Bakka story, and then the russbuss. So many storylines are beginning at once because when they all begin to turn into chaos that will happen at once too, with Sana standing in the middle trying to fix the chaos she instigated. The trailer we feel like could also be an indication of Even as Sana’s mirror as the chaos starts with her and ends with Even, but when reversed (which is how it was released) it starts with Even and ends with Sana. Which essentially means that Sana is on one side of the chain with Even on the other….just like a mirror. And thus he is probably the actual beginning of all the drama and not Noora, even though that is who we all have our eyes on at the moment, as she is brewing to a boil before our eyes. But then again it is all going to fallout simultaneously anyway.
I also wonder if Mikael’s part in this is maybe that he struggled to hold onto both worlds just like Sana may find difficult this season. Perhaps he wanted to connect deeper with people who share his faith while still being friends with Even? But when doing so he just ended up hurting Even and himself and maybe that will be his part in Sana’s story? Maybe Mikael will help her understand the balance she needs to have and the mistakes she could make.
As the theme misunderstood fits to pretty much everyone, this theme seems particularly fitting to not just Sana but also Even. We actually saw how much he was misunderstood back in S3 when he became manic. Its not unrealistic that he was misunderstood back at Bakka when he had an episode and those misunderstandings are coming back to him in this season probably at the same time as Sana is facing her challenges. We feel like the biggest theme here is that Sana continuously feels misunderstood, not just by people who don’t know her, but also by those who are meant to. And maybe the point is that we all want to be understood but how can anyone understand us if we don’t give them the chance and they aren’t willing to? Maybe the answer to find balance between two worlds is if one world can become keen to learn the other, while the other world reaches out and gives them the material to. Even was repeatedly misunderstood last season and possibly also at Bakka because he never gave anyone the chance to know him. To learn, he already had decided that no one could or would. And we think this mirrors exactly what Sana is doing here. We are all upset because the girls continue to say and do things that don’t exactly take her faith in consideration, but not once does Sana correct them. She never encourages them to know her and understand her, she has just assumed that it’s a lost course. So maybe this season will teach her and us that understanding is a two way street, and to find it you have to first let yourself to finally be open to becoming truly understood.
Imagine your relationship with Tony coming to a crossroads. You’re not sure what to do anymore - all he does is work and tinker, tinker and work. You just don’t feel like a priority. He didn’t tell you about it ahead of time, but Steve decided to have a chat with Tony. He loves you both, and just wants to help you fix things and be happy again.
A guy walked in and he looked very familiar, I just figured he has been in before. He was super hot and very smiley and friendly and looking pretty happy. I didn’t think much of it. I collected his stuff and while I was filling our the info I needed (him still standing in front of me looking beautiful) It suddenly hit me why I recognised him……
We have been chatting on POF! And another dating app. He looked pretty good in his pics, but reality he was stupid handsome! I instantly got flustered with what I was doing and likely made a fool of myself. After he left I told everyone at work I was sure it was him, to the point my manager told me to go check my phone to double check it was him…..
Oh yes….it was AND the worst part is last week he asked me out and I never responded/saw the msg! I’m kicking myself.
I have msged him now. You all keep your fingers crossed he answers!
The temporary hiatus is officially off now. Regular activity will resume once again and more drafts will be added to the queue this evening.
I do not want to go into details about what happened near the end of the week on my end beyond saying that this week was very stressful for me and I needed a day or two to recollect myself. Hopefully things have settled down now.
If you want to chat I have my d1scord bellow. I am usually active on the weekends since those are the days I have off.
Me and some other mutuals have chatted about this and tried contacting the touken-week blog to ask if they were planning another one, etc. as the last one was 2 years or so ago. But it’s been a few months and no one has answered so I think the admins have either left tumblr or are on hiatus. The problem is, I don’t even know who was running that blog to check it out and try to contact them personally.
I’m not really sure what to do because I’m pretty sure etiquette for running fandom weeks on here is that you never make another ’–week’ when there’s already one established but in this case, I’m not sure if it would still be rude to make another blog for it when the main one is inactive o)-)
where would you want to time travel to? Omg this is such a difficult question. I think I would like to visit south america before european invasion, VISIT THE LIBRARY OF ALEXANDRIA AND PREVENT IT FROM BURNING DOWN (which might also be a paradox because what if it was me who accidentally set it on fire), visit and have a nice chat with Don Pedro II, my fave historical person. Visit the french revolution, imagine that, amazing, death.
fictional character I would hang out with for a day: omg i feel like whichever character I choose they would hate me. oh no. I think the ones who would hate me the least would be Joly or Bossuet. John Laurens woldnt hate me either (i think) CONNOR MURPHY WOULD TOTALLY HATE ME BUT AT LEAST I WOULD BE THERE FOR HIM
If I could be anywhere right now, where would I be? Right now, right now I want to be on my family’s beach house, on the net, feeling the cold-ish summer breeze against my body while reading my book, away from the internet (a pause, you know?) and relaxing with my family. Soon, we will go ride our bikes in the seashore and see the waves crashing against the sand.
east coast blogger: today i murdered a rat with my own crystalized rage and hatred west coast blogger: this beach is so relaxing my body melted right into the sand midwest blogger: o Lords of corn, what sins have we committed for the weather to punish us so southern blogger: y'all’d’ve