hanna and alice

Hanna is the girl from the first secret?

After this mid-season finale, I couldn’t stop thinking about Hanna and the scene where she looked into the knife before cutting noel’s leg. She looked into the knife the same way Alice (the evil blonde twin from the halloween story ali and hanna tell while babysitting) did in that same story!!! This HAS to be foreshadowing. What I also found interesting was how Hanna decided to cut Noel’s leg on his thigh. The same place Ali has a similar cut on her thigh! Maybe Ali and Hanna are the little girls from the halloween story and Hanna is the one who cut Alison’s leg? Maybe Hannah’s real name is actually “Alice” Dilaurentis (AD)? So it would be Alice and Alison?? There has been tons of references to how much they look alike, and Hanna and Ashley Marin are the two who are constantly seeing twins. Ashley specifically sees Alice as a ghost. Foreshadowing??? What do you guys think?

Edited, complete theory Spencer's Twin/Mary/Alice Drake

I have read a couple of very nice theories on here the last few days. 
There were four that stood out to me and I support and on which I’d like to base my little theorie (if one of them is yours, please, tell me so I can credit you)

1. Spencer has a twin
2. Mary is Spencer’s birth mother
3. There are triplets, based on the story about the two girls (Mary and Alice): Mary Drake, Jessica DiLaurentis, Alice Drake (AD)
4. Jessica and Mary can be compared to Alison and Courtney in the books @aliarstheorypll

Now for my thinking:
Spencer does indeed have a twin and Mary is their birth mother. Now, I don’t think there are triplets but I do think there is an Alice Drake.

I think that Jessica and Mary are Alison and Courtney in the books. In this case Jessica is Alison (the crazy one) and Mary is Courtney (the one that was initially admitted to Radley because of her sister).
Like Mary said: ‘I was born first, she was born jealous.’

Hear me out.

When Mary give birth to the twins (fathered by Peter Hastings), one stayed with Peter and received his last name and the other initially stayed with Mary and therefore received her last name, Drake.

What happened to her in the course of her life, we don’t know but it can not be pretty.
*Scroll down to the end of this post to read my thoughts on Peter, Mary and Jessica.

*Peter, Jessica and Mary:

This is gonna be crazy, so sit tight. Even I think this is far-fetched and I don’t necessary believe this will be the case but it might.

If Peter had an affair with both Jessica and Mary (he would have to according to my theory) this would mean that these affairs happened in the same time frame. Even for these fucked up families, I think that is hard to believe.

I do indeed think he slept with both sisters but I don’t think he knows he did.

I think his intention was to be having an affair with Mary, not Jessica. They might even have really loved each other but didn’t get into a relationship because Mary got admitted to Radley (we all know that image is important in Rosewood).

Like I said in the beginning of this post, Jessica was jealous and therefore pretended to be Mary and slept with Peter.

In this way it makes sense that he slept with both sister in the same period of time.

Who killed Jessica?

Because of this I think either Peter or Mary did, to get their revenge.

This twin of Spencer’s is named Alice Drake and she is A.D., maybe even Uber A.
Her motive? ‘One was born jealous.’

The course of Alice’s life hasn’t been easy by far and she has grown jealous of Spencer, who has lead the perfect life according to her.

What makes me think Spencer has a twin/is mothered by Mary?

- Spencer looks way more like Mary than Veronica. I think Melissa is Veronica’s kid, Melissa looks more like Veronica.

- In earlier seasons, Veronica Hastings tells Spencer something along the lines of ‘we never knew if it would be you or your evil twin coming down for breakfast.’ I think Spencer having a twin has been alluded to throughout several seasons and explains why Spencer cannot remember some of the bad things she has done/been accused of doing. (Thanks to @diggingupbones)

- The caffeine and the language things have been mentioned very specifically for Spencer throughout all the seasons. Now, in 7x01 they have been associated with Mary very clearly as well, especially in the scene between the two. Technically nothing happened in this scene except for clues that Mary is her mother. If she is not, why bother to make this scene?

- 'You and your sister look so much alike, almost like twins.’ Mary says while looking at a picture of Spencer and Melissa. She does not mention Melissa’s name in this line so I think she wasn’t talking about Melissa but Spencer’s twin, her own child, so she would know. I think her looking at the picture was done to throw us off.

Remember this the scene in a previous season where 'Jessica’ is standing in Spencer’s room and staring at her?

I think this was Mary, not Jessica. The facial expression is so Mary-like. Why on earth would Jessica do this?

- The scene with Spencer and the creepy dancing girl in Radley.
We never really found out the relevance of this scene. Let alone why this scene was with Spencer? The dancing girl could be Alice and the scene would be based on their twin connection. I wouldn’t be surprised if Alice herself went to Radley, or spent time there as a child because her mother was in there and she had nowhere else to go.

- Mary seemed to feel a little too comfortable drinking tea with Spencer.

- Spencer kept on asking a lot of question about Mary’s connection to the Hastings and was very persistent. Instead of asking questions about Charlotte only she asked a lot about her parents, why? You would think she wanted to find out about the Mary-Charlotte history and not the one with Peter and/or Veronica. She could be already suspecting something.

Now let’s continue…

The ‘Spencer’ that Hanna saw, is Alice, A.D., the one who captured her and wants to know who killed Charlotte, her sister. 
She sang 'Hush little baby’ to Hanna. Where would she have heard this before? Yes, she heard Mona sing it in the dollhouse.

Hear this:

I think that Alice and Charlotte have been working together and built the dollhouse. Remember how the masked person in the dollhouse seemed familiar to Spencer? Yes indeed, I think this was Alice, Spencer’s twin. You often hear twins have special connections, even though they have hardly/never spent time together.

Why do I think it was Alice talking to Hanna?

- The obvious reason that this 'Spencer’ did not have her current hair. Yes, it might be Hanna’s memory from Spencer like she was years ago BUT this Spencer mentioned A.D. And Hanna doesn’t know this name/reference for this new 'A’ person.

- This 'Spencer’ seemed to be very confused to realize that Hanna really didn’t know who killed Charlotte. She must have really thought they knew or had something to do with it (which is reasonable since the girls were terrorized by Charlotte). Real Spencer or hallucination Spencer would never be confused about this because she knows they don’t know who did it.

- But then the question arises: why did Alice/A.D. help Hanna escape? This could be just for the simple reason to keep her secret and make Hanna believe that it was really a dream about real Spencer. Hanna wasn’t useful anymore anyway. If A.D./Alice is working with Mary, she might have known that Hanna would be 'caught’ again by Mary. From the promo we don’t know if Mary actually takes Hanna back home or back to the barn or wherever. From the three girls digging scene we can assume that Hanna is not safely back home yet and it sounds like their plan to safe her didn’t go so well.

Who was Spencer texting?

I don’t really know but I have two options:

1. She knows about Alice and texted her about Hannah. I that case she does know that Alice is A.D. (Spencer would definitely be able to put two and two together and realize that A.D. could be Alice Drake) but doesn’t tell the rest for some reason.

2. The text was NOT about Hannah being alive it was about ALICE. Spencer knows about her twin and is trying to find out whether SHE is still alive and therefore if she could possibly be A.D. Spencer’s friends don’t know about this possible twin and I think it is quite Spencer-like to not tell them until she knows everything for sure.

Alice Drake

I have read a couple of very nice theories on here the last few days.
There were three that stood out to me and I support and on which I’d like to base my little theorie (if one of them is yours, please, tell me so I can credit you)

1. Spencer has a twin
2. Mary is Spencer’s birth mother
3. There are triplets, based on the story about the two girls (Mary and Alice): Mary Drake, Jessica DiLaurentis, Alice Drake (AD)

Now for my thinking:

Spencer does indeed have a twin and Mary is their birth mother. Now, I don’t think there are triplets but I do think there is an Alice Drake.

Hear me out.

When Mary give birth to the twins (fathered by Peter Hastings), one stayed with Peter and received his last name and the other initially stayed with Mary and therefore received her last name, Drake. What happened to her in the course of her life, we don’t know but it can not be pretty.

This twin of Spencer’s is named Alice Drake and she is A.D., maybe even Uber A.

Her motive? ‘One was born jealous.’

The course of Alice’s life hasn’t been easy by far and she has grown jealous of Spencer, who has lead the perfect life according to her.

The ‘Spencer’ that Hanna saw, is Alice, A.D., the one who captured her and wants to know who killed Charlotte, her sister.
She sang 'Hush little baby’ to Hanna. Where would she have heard this before? Yes, she heard Mona sing it in the dollhouse. Hear this:

I think that Alice and Charlotte have been working together and built the dollhouse. Remember how the masked person in the dollhouse seemed familiar to Spencer? Yes indeed, I think this was Alice, Spencer’s twin.

Now for the question that arised to me and might arise to you about this theory and what I think is the answer:

- Who was Spencer texting 'how do you know she is still alive?
I don’t really know but I have two options:
1. She knows about Alice and texted her about Hannah. I that case she does know that Alice is A.D. (Spencer would definitely be able to put two and two together and realize that A.D. could be Alice Drake) but doesn’t tell the rest for some reason.
2. The text was NOT about Hannah being alive it was about ALICE. Spencer knows about her twin and is trying to find out whether SHE is still alive and therefore if she could possibly be A.D. Spencer’s friends don’t know about this possible twin and I think it is quite Spencer-like to not tell them until she knows everything for sure.

This theory isn’t complete by far but I just want to throw it out there and I will edit and repost whenever I come up with more.

Please, let me know what you think.

My Twin Theory

So everyone is wondering who is the one with a twin on PLL and I am reading so many good points being made I thought I should make a post on my thoughts on who I think SHOULD be the twin (I stress that it’s who I think it should be because we all know the PLL track record). Here are some of the reasons I could think of for Hanna Marin being one of two…

Hair Colour
Ok so let’s look at Hanna and her family, specifically Hanna and Ashley Marin, they both have different coloured hair, now I know this could be me looking into things too much because I have heard of that magical thing called hair dye, but the fact that they both have dyed hair almost like there is something fake about them and that there is something being covered up, also it is noticeable that there are big differences between the two characters because the other characters have more of a simular hair colour (I know Ali and Mrs. D have different hair colours but it’s not as noticeable, and that family has so many secrets anyway). I realise this might be a bit out there but it’s just something I thought of.

Hanna’s Different Looks
In season 5 we saw Hanna completely change her look, going with a more gothic grungy look, she had the black in her hair and her overall style went from the usual girly chic to more a more dark style. This to me is showing us that Hanna has a very changeable personality, or that maybe it was a subtle way to tell us that there is more than one Hanna, maybe symbolising that there are two Hanna’s, her and her twin. I just think this was a very subtle way of saying that Hanna has a twin.

Ashley Marin
Out of Pretty much all of the parents (excluding Jessica and Veronica) Ashley has had the most secrets, she has also been the most involved in the whole ‘A’ thing. Remember back at the start Ashley was in a relationship with Wilden? Maybe she had more to hide than we know, maybe Wilden also knew about Hanna having a twin and didn’t want anyone to know about it. I mean, she even spent time in prison. Flash forward to 6b and we see Ashley hiding the security tape that Hanna deleted, now we know that she was doing it for a reason but it is a gentle reminder that Ashley is willing to go to great lengths to protect those she loves, maybe she is also protecting the identity of her other daughter.

Twin Red Coats
So in 4x13, Hanna sees what she thinks are twins wearing red coats, it is later revealed that they are not twins but Hanna saw them and thought they were twins and I believe she saw them more than once (I can’t really remember the episode and haven’t been able to go back and watch it) but it is something that Hanna notices and the others don’t really pay any attention to it, so why we’re the twins so revevant to Hanna? Maybe because she is one? There is also apparently a twin statue in the episode too which I didn’t see but I read a theory where someone mentioned it

Ali’s Twin Story
In 2x13 I think, Alison was telling a story about twin girls, about how one of the twins killed the other one, Hanna was there for this story so it may have been a subtle way of hinting that Hanna is one of those blonde girls, though we know that the twin is the new A so we assume that they are alive so it might not actually be about Hanna but just there as a small hint, or perhaps the twin tried to kill Hanna and was sent to Radley?

Ashley meets a twin
In 3x13, while handing out candy on Halloween, Ashley comes across a little girl in her back garden called Alice, Ashley brings her inside and there is something off about her, she mentions that she called her mother and she was upset, she also said that she and her sister fight a lot and that her sister may have told a lie to get her in trouble, this little girl is the same one from Alison’s story about the twins, the one that Hanna was there for. Maybe Alice is a repressed memory of Ashley’s, of her other daughter who she sent away for something she did to Hanna when they were kids and now maybe she sees things from her other daughter’s perspective. Another thing about Alice that strikes me is that if you go on the Wikia page for her, under interests it says revenge and her enemies are her twin, we know that A has a strong feeling about getting revenge and the girls are A’s enemies and as we saw Hanna is taking the blame for Charlotte’s murder which would make her A’s number 1 enemy, her twin maybe?

A burning the Hanna bobble head
In the 3x17 A ending we see bobble heads of all 4 of the girls, we see A burn the Hanna bobble head, why the Hanna bobble head? Was there a reason for it? Maybe Hanna’s twin was planning on burning Hanna…

The Fire
Leading on from my last point, in 3x24 I think everyone will remember the fire at the log cabin, now I find it really interesting that Hanna is the only one who didn’t get saved from the fire, she was left to burn and Ali saved her, but why would all of the others be saved and not her? Now I know that this has already been revealed as being Sara Harvey who saved them but I don’t buy all of Charlotte’s stories because there are so many holes in them, and why would Sara Harvey leave Hanna behind and save everyone else? It makes no sense, I mean I know she could have just not been able to get to her but still it seems a bit strange that it happened to Hanna, maybe it wasn’t Sara Harvey who saved them, maybe it was Hanna’s twin and she wanted her twin to suffer. I read an interesting theory that maybe the twin is a burn victim and wanted Hanna to suffer the way she did.

Taking the blame
Most recently in 6x19 we have seen Hanna take the blame for muddling Charlotte to ‘end this’ with A. When she was telling Spencer, she was very convincing, almost too convincing. I really felt what Hanna was saying in the story she was telling, maybe it was true? Or maybe she is so good at pretending because she has pretended to be her twin sister. I feel like that whole scene was showing how convincing Hanna can be at lying rather than the story being true but because of how convincing the story was I think that is a way of showing us how good of a liar Hanna is, maybe she has needed to be a good liar, maybe that wasn’t Hanna at all. I don’t know but the whole scene was very suspicious.

Red Coat Hanna
6x19 isn’t the first time Hanna has pretended to be a bad guy, she pretended to be redcoat in 3x24 when they were trying to see if Spencer was still one of them or if she was part of the A team. She walked through the school in the red coat so that Spencer would follow her to see if she knew who Red Coat was thus revealing whether or not she was still on their side. This is another case of Hanna showing that there are other sides to her, multiple personalities, twins.

Links to Mona and Charlotte’s reveal
In 2x24 we find out that Mona is A, but before we find out Mona is seemingly on their side and appears to be a victim and trying to help find out who A is, they made a point of Mona being involved just before her reveal. This is like Hanna and her 'taking one for the team’ stunt she is pulling by confessing to Charlotte’s murder, it is drawing all of the attention to Hanna as the victim and trying to help, so will she be revealed as having a twin in the end?
More recently, we found out Charlotte was A in 6x10, we have seen Charlotte (known before as CeCe) looking pretty shady before, we have seen her in the red coat and literally seen her in the black hoodie as A, we have literally seen Hanna in the Red Coat as well showing that Hanna is also someone with a secret.

Ok so they are all of the reasons I have come up with for Hanna and her links to the twins, I found some inspiration from a fan theory about who A was (before we found out it was Charlotte) but they have a lot of good ideas, here’s a link if you want to check it out: http://pllmysteries.tumblr.com/post/107346749552

I hope you all enjoyed this and if there’s anything I missed please let me know!

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