hae's memory

because our SoSoo ship went down so tragically, i’ll just choose to think about the parts of their moments together  we didn’t get to see

1.) in episode 14 when So took Soo out stargazing on her birthday, they probably continued to hold hands on their way to their spot (after Soo placed her hand on So’s hand like that, I can’t imagine So just letting it go)

2.) in episode 14 when they shared their first mutual kiss, none of us know how long that kiss lasted, just imagine their smiling faces after that kiss, with So being a giddy little puppy because finally she’s all his

3.) in episode 16 during their reunion, they spent two nights together and we only got to see 6 minutes of it, playing with shadows and feeding each other. what about their little talks in between? catching up on what happened to each other for the past 2 years? getting dressed in front of each other because that room was so small? So trying to sneak in some cuddle time every 2 minutes? because we all know his thing about back hugs

4.) in episode 16 during their stargazing, you can’t tell me the only conversation they had was about Pegasus. they probably just randomly mentioned trivial things that didn’t really matter but both found it interesting just because the person talking about it meant the world to them. probably laughing at each others’ stupidest jokes like a bunch of idiots. how long do you think were they intertwined like that before Ji Mong arrived?

5.) in episode 17 when Soo fell asleep in So’s room, she woke up lying down with a blanket over her when in fact it was So who fell asleep on her lap. imagine So waking up, carrying her carefully into a lying position and lovingly putting a  blanket over her, smiling sweetly at his love’s sleeping face before leaving for king/emperor duties

6.) in episode 17 when So would work in Soo’s room, or eat dinner with her, their conversations were so cute and full of fluff i bet that lasted the whole time So was there, because they bicker like an old married couple most of the time and it wouldn’t be a surprise. it would’ve been so cute to see So having to leave her room because it was getting late, and they say “good night” and “sleep well” to each other (ugh the feels)

7.) and just basically in the early episodes up until episode 8 when they would accidentally run into each other or when they go on little walks together, they never show us what happens before they part, but i’m 100% sure So walks Soo back to the palace or back to her room because he’s a gentleman like that and he is the sweetest little puppy ever

i choose to remember them like this, because i refuse to believe it was a love wasted

i know they’ll remember these memories between them forever and ever, and so will i

Do you remember?  

2 years ago  

140411 D&E Japan Tour - Kobe: 
Hyukjae revealed a pic of Donghae sleeping in his room.

Hyuk: I came back from outside and saw someone sleeping on my bed. When I switched on the light, i saw it was Donghae.

Hae: My head was hurting, so I came to his room but Hyuk wasn’t there.

Hyuk: He has his own room but still come to mine, such a fool. (c

Now that Moon Lovers is ending I would just like to say:

1.) Wang So and Hae Soo falling apart was meant to happen, so let’s not feel so bad. Hae Soo was only meant to love him and to help him become king, she was not meant to be with him until the end. notice how they started falling apart after So became king? it’s because her purpose for being sent back to Goryeo period is done, fate is taking its course to let them know that she is no longer needed there. it’s absolutely unfair for two people who love each other so much, but history must happen in the way it was always meant to happen. she needs to go, and sadly there’s nothing she, nor So, nor Baek Ah, nor you and i can do about it

2.) Wang So and Hae Soo’s love story was one of the most poignant yet beautiful love stories i’ve ever come across with. it hurts to think that they can’t be together in Goryeo, but we have to accept it. we shipped a ship that was meant to sink. but their moments, the stories they told each other, the things they did for each other, all are such beautiful memories, i’m sure will remain in their hearts forever. if we get a modern day Wang So with no memories about Hae Soo at all, he just won’t feel like the same person, i know. i’m sad about that, too

but at this point, the best thing we can do is believe that two hearts that are meant to be together will always gravitate back to each other

In Hae Soo We Trust?

Or, alternatively, how I think Hae Soo is writing her own tragedy, and that’s the most tragic thing of all. 

how is it so easy for you 
to be kind to people
he asked

milk and honey dripped
on my lips as i answered

cause people have not 
been kind to me” 
Rupi Kaur, milk and honey

This post is really just me trying to understand Hae Soo. I think the main reason as to why I feel frustrated is the writing. Hae Soo’s trust goes back and forth so much, especially when it comes down to Wang So–and why is that? Really? Why is that? Is it just simply fear? Or is there something else? The answer is much more complicated than we’d like. 

I understand that there are many things that are haunting Hae Soo. Her visions are coming true, and she fears that So will turn out to be the ruthless king that she has come to learn about, the one that killed all his brothers and his subjects. Part of it is true. But she’s also seen the kind, warm, and soft side to him. She’s seen the way that he loves her, and what he would do for her. This causes her deep conflict. 

I think there’s a self-fulfilling prophecy that’s at play here. Ultimately, Hae Soo has a hand in her own tragedy, no matter how much she tries to fix things. Which brings us back to her conversation with Ji Mong: was it meant to happen, or did it happen because of her? Did she change something? And here’s another haunting question for Hae Soo: Am I Hae Soo or Go Ha Jin? Is this a dream, or was my modern life a dream? #thoughtsthatkeepyouupat4am 

WangSo:Why are you staring at me like that?”
Hae Soo: “I was wondering what it would be like to turn away from the things you love..” 

(ha ha ha foreshadowing anyone ha ha ha) 

This week confirms the sailing ship (they literally get a boat, for God’s sake) of the SoSoo couple (I find it funny we call it SoSoo couple here, and then Koreans call it the SoHae couple…). But while So has nothing but given his entire heart for Soo, I think we can see that Hae Soo is still holding back. She loves him–and has for a while now; her mind has constantly wavered when it came to him–but she doesn’t quite yearn for him the same way that So does. In interviews, IU describes the love between Hae Soo and Wang So to be “like fire” but like… dude, where’s the passion? Where’s the burning? SO IS JUST THERE, LITERALLY ON FIRE, AND HAE SOO’S STANDING THERE. Are we going to see more of her love show? Is she ever going to give So her all? God, I hope so, before everything goes to shit. 

And the reason as to why I’m convinced that Hae Soo will probably stop holding back and give So her all is because of this:

The translation:

If we had just not met, then I would not be filled with such longing…” 

The original Korean encompasses a lot of pain and yearning, I think. This does not sound like a love where Soo was careful and distant and held back the whole time; this is what you say when you love someone to the moon and back, and it doesn’t work out and you’re left nothing but with memories and a broken heart. 

Her holding back may also have to do with Wook, seeing the way that it painfully ended with Wook’s betrayal. And to add to that, So already knows that Soo used to love someone else, but she goes to So, anyways. So knows that Soo has accepted his feelings, and feels the same way towards him. Therefore, for me, it doesn’t make sense that this couple would fall apart because So learns that Hae Soo used to love Wook. Like… okay, I feel like that they could talk it out. That whole scene at episode 14 where they healthily communicated? With that kind of communication, what can’t they overcome? LMAO DESTINY But I do wonder if there would be something more grating to So if he learns that Soo loved Wook. But why would Wook be different from any man? Would it bother So more because he and Wook are rivals now? 

I would’ve picked a bone with Hae Soo, but… honestly, I wonder if by not telling So that she knew where Eun was, it was something that would have protected him, in the end. I think the reason as to why Hae Soo doesn’t tell him about Eun is because she doesn’t want So to get to the point where he has to kill Eun (like she saw in her visions). And Hae Soo’s been warned time and time again, that she cannot fully trust anyone in the palace, and she’s come to learn to fear what happens within the palace as well. 

But Hae Soo repents her actions for not trusting So because of Soon Duk (yes, bless your soul, precious bear child) and she goes to help get Soon Duk to be able to say goodbye to her father. She also remembers Taejo’s parting words: “Don’t be so afraid of the harsh future that you lose everything you have now.”

But the whole situation with Hae Soo and Eun and Soon Deok makes us wonder again what Hae Soo’s role is here… 

Ji Mong says he didn’t know that Wang Yo would become the king (yeah, but Ji Mong could be LYING!!!!!! In the words of our wolf prince, Wang So, HOW MUCH SHOULD WE TRUST THIS MAN????). He says that there must have been another variable. And who else would that be… but Hae Soo. I think she in herself is a trigger. 

I was reading through some Korean blogs, and one argued that the variable was the fact that Hae Soo told Wang Wook to be careful of Wang So. This is also something I agree with. And that being said, Hae Soo writes this whole tragedy by herself. She thinks she’s helping… but is she? Again, like Ji Mong, she’s going to watch everything unfold. She and Ji Mong must not interfere. But that’s where the lines also get blurred… is Hae Soo helping to cause these things to happen, or were they always going to happen anyways, regardless of what she does? I don’t know how time travel works god help me 

But enough about Hae Soo and trust. I want to talk about two important scenes! 

Wang Jung and Hae Soo

Jung: “We’ve changed. There will come a time where you have to choose.”
Soo: “Even if it comes down to that, I don’t think I’ll be able to choose. I just wish nobody gets hurt.” 

Ah, Hae Soo, bless your kind heart. But could you like pick Wang So’s side please 

These interactions set up the plotline where Hae Soo and Jung end up together. Which is fine, as long as they do it well. But I’m also against it because Jung’s character is quite… immature, for lack of better words. I’ve talked about it him before. Jung has grown up a lot, but at the same time, he lacks understanding for others–especially when it comes to Wang So. There are reasons as to why Jung may not like So; because of So, his mother and Yo have changed to the point where Jung cannot stand to be with them, and because So also hurt Yo. The kid just needs to grow up a bit more.

But he says something important. Something that haunts Hae Soo, more or less. Will she choose a side? Can she choose a side? For those who want to help everyone, it is difficult to choose one person to be loyal to. But she cannot remain neutral. Nobody can, especially when it comes to survival. 

“it takes grace
to remain kind
in cruel situations”
–Rumi Kaur, milk and honey

Aaaand I’ve been dying to discuss this scene. 

This is an interesting scene in itself because Hae Soo and Yo have never really had interaction before. He was never interested in this strange girl, until she became someone he could use to control his brothers. Because that’s what Yo excels at. He’s good at finding others’ weaknesses and using them against them so that he can gain the upper hand. 

A part of their conversation snagged my interest. Hae Soo doesn’t back down in front of his man–the king who became a king through killing his brother. And Yo realizes that this girl isn’t to be taken lightly. 

Yo: You’re quite daring, aren’t you? Then again, even from when you were young, you weren’t a pushover. It’s entertaining.”

The fact that Yo says “even from when you were young” made me think a lot about Hae Soo. The way he phrases it in Korean, the way I interpret it, it feels like he’s talking about her childhood, and not about a couple of years ago when she was younger (and Go Ha Jin fell into her body). I may be overthinking it. Yo could be simple talking about Hae Soo a few years ago–he saw her fight with Eun, he saw her stand up to Yeonhwa and take Chaeryung’s punishment. 

But who actually was the real Hae Soo? If you look back at episode 1, Chaeryung doubts Hae Soo forgetting her memories and asks her what she’s really trying to hide. Hae Soo (Go Ha Jin) is surprised to learn that Soo was actually some sort of rebellious child… the girl who pretended to be good and sweet on the outside, but was actually a bad girl in reality. 

I guess all that really matters, though, is that Hae Soo is not to be taken lightly, and she will fight for those she loves. She’s not scared to bear her teeth at those who try to hurt her. 

But we circle back to these questions: How much can Hae Soo do? Why is she here? What will happen now? 

#TRAGEDY #GETREKT 

“the world
gives you
so much pain
and here you are
making gold out of it” 
- there is nothing purer than that” 
–Rupi Kaur, milk and honey 

I am so very happy Hae Soo succeeded in protecting her daughter.

In making sure that she was raised as Jung’s daughter and not So’s, she fulfilled the wish that Court Lady Oh had made for her. The sacrifice that Court Lady Oh made was not in vain. While it was too late to save Hae Soo from years of suffering, Lady Oh’s death, indeed the deaths of every woman on the show, were seared into Hae Soo’s memory - affecting her more deeply than most of the male characters, who seemed to shrug off women dying like something Hae Soo should just get over.

But in the end, she remembered those horrifying fates well enough to know that she could never trust So with the life of her child. The only way to best ensure that the kid would be happy (in a future Hae Soo likely wouldn’t live to see), was to make sure the child did not enter the palace. And Hae Soo knew enough of So’s possessive nature to know that even if the child was born outside the palace, it wasn’t even safe to let So know he was the father. There was too great a risk he - desperate for someone to love him - would come demanding “his person” and drag the poor girl back. 

When she had to act as a mother, Hae Soo knew who she could trust, and who she couldn’t and she made the best decisions for her child. Her daughter has a better chance of a happy life because of it.

Lady Hae and Court Lady Oh would be so proud of her.

“Be careful of Wang So.”

So I thought episode 8 was painful, okay? 

AND THEN THEY DECIDE TO BRING ME EPISODE 9 

TOMORROW IS CANCELLED. I’M NOT RECOVERING. I CAN’T 

Originally posted by recandpark

My heart was cleaved in eight different ways. 

I have so much shit to say. 

Hae Soo’s figured it out. Wang So is Gwangjong. A king with a bloody reign, the one who killed off the rest of his brothers. (And for all of you who complained about Hae Soo not knowing her history–really? Not all of us know history that well, and it can’t all be our forte. Cut the girl some slack. In terms of Korean history, we know a hell of a lot more about the Joseon Dynasty than Goryeo because everything was recorded much better during the Joseon era, and the kings had their annals. So it’s natural that Hae Soo’s memory of 10th century is hazy. LIKE HONESTLY. But I digress). 

Hae Soo has frightening premonitions about Gwangjong. The person she has come to consider her friend, a man who has so many scars (both emotionally and physically) and is feared by everyone and called a “wolf-dog”–she sees the good in him, and she doesn’t care about the rest. And Wang So is just so happy and glad that he’s found such a person, and thus, it’s not a surprise that he is falling for her–and does fall for her. But it turns out he may not be the person she thought he was. 

So there are like 4 main things I want to discuss: 

  • are
  • you
  • fucking
  • kidding me
  • do you think this is a game
  • do you think this is ok
  • how the fuck
  • no
  • JUST FUCKING N-O-P-E

Okay, just kidding. The list is more like:

  • Hae Soo
  • Wang So
  • Wang Wook
  • Ji Mong (like all i have to say is: who the fuck are you what do you want)
  • Wang Eun

I was frustrated and upset with Hae Soo this episode. I know there are many people who are angry. Look, I get it. I GET IT. Hae Soo’s premonitions are scary. The princes and friends she has come to care for are going to die, because of another prince and friend she has come to like–because of Wang So. To her, she can’t wrap her head around the fact that this kind, good person who has a smile that could shame the sun COULD BECOME A CRUEL, BLOODY KING. Like. Loads of blood. BLOOD EVERYWHERE BLOOD FOR YOU BLOOD FOR ME

I get that she can have severe anxiety. I get that this is a traumatizing incident for her. I get the way she reacted.

But I still can’t help but feel that she was OOC or that her character was entirely wrecked this episode. This episode Hae Soo did not feel like Hae Soo. Even during the first episode where Hae Soo was terrified of falling into a body that wasn’t hers, she locked herself into her room, but she didn’t give up hope. She tried to think of positive ways to think about the situation. And following that, no matter how difficult it was, Hae Soo did her best to do her best. “I can do it” is LITERALLY like the motto of Hae Soo.

She seems to grasp that she could still change Wang So, but then it all goes to shit. She fears him. She pushes him away. 

But I think that in itself is a damage to a character. You can’t just go from “I won’t change, I promise to you” to “I fear you” that quickly. Why is Hae Soo so quick to judge and leap to assumptions? As my good friend put it, by assuming that Wang So turns evil, it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. Hae Soo wants to help everyone when she can–she is compassionate, she is warm-hearted. She turned to So, AFTER HE KILLED PEOPLE, and said, “You may not be forgiven, but I’ll understand you. How miserable you must be feeling.”  

AND HAE SOO JUST 

TURNS 

AWAY

OH MY GOD

and everything will go to shit now. 

Originally posted by distrax7universe

I think the situation where Hae Soo is turning away from him is the worst course of action. But she’s also scared??? WHAT DO I DO???? UGH I AM SO CONFLICTED. 

Bottom line: I love Hae Soo, I understand her, BUT GIRL. WHY. 

HAE SOO you need to brace yourself. You’ve got a long path ahead of you. It’s okay if she cannot change the history, or if she can’t change Gwangjong. It’s true. You cannot change people. But you can change how you are. She can try her best to stop it. She can be kind. She can be kind enough for him that he will remember it, and perhaps, he won’t be so cruel as history has made him out to be. But it may not work–it won’t work. But at least she won’t live with the regret that she never tried. Even when we do our best, if it’s something the heavens won’t allow. What can you do? 

Also, I don’t think Wang So would just kill off his brothers for the hell of it. Okay. Gwangjong may have been cruel, but he got shit done. From what I know, he kept his power by killing off the powerful clans and also implemented a law that emancipated the slaves. 

HAE SOO WHY YOU JUST GOTTA ASSUME THAT HE KILLED THEM FOR FUN HE DIDN’T 

REMEMBER WHEN HE FUCKING CRIED BECAUSE HE KILLED ALL THOSE PEOPLE FOR HIS MOTHER 

FUCK 

I HATE THIS SHOW IT RUINED MY LIFE

My next point: WANG SO THAT’S NOT HOW YOU KISS A GIRL NO PLEASE SOMEONE TEACH THE KOREAN PEOPLE THE WORD CONSENT 

I watch the SBS version, so the kiss was mild (but still by no means okay) compared to the International Version on DramaFever. LIKE HOLY SHIT. No. Why did you ever think this was okay? DO NOT ROMANTICIZE THAT KISS. DON’T GLAMORIZE THAT KISS. I KNOW WANG SO IS DESPERATE BUT THAT IS NOT OKAY. HAE SOO WAS CRYING AND TRYING TO BREAK FREE. THAT IS ASSAULT. 

WHY YOU GOTTA DO THIS TO MY SHIP, MAN

And also, Hae Soo just decides to BLURT OUT EVERYTHING WANG WOOK. Girl, you’re not even making sense. But by saying this, she sets about a course of actions. Wang Wook is changing–the look in his eyes is unsettling. I can’t help but describe it as a hunger, for something. The way he looks at the rain. The way he looks when he’s thinking. 

What is it you really want? Do you want Hae Soo, or do you look beyond that? Is the throne calling for you too? 

Has Hae Soo set him, too, on a path that he cannot return from? Or was it something internally always there? Something that began to fester from the moment he realized that Hae Soo had helped Wang So… 

WANG WOOK GET REKT 

we’re all gonna get rekt 

And now, Wang Eun. 

Sweetie, I get that you don’t want to get married. My heart hurt for him this episode. I get that he’s angry at Hae Soo, but with time and perspective, I hope that he can come to good terms with her again. PLUS HIS WIFE IS SO CUTE AND STRONG LIKE HOW CAN YOU NOT LOVE HER she was willing to take Hae Soo in as a second wife for Eun. LIKE EUN, YOU DON’T DESERVE THIS PRECIOUS CINNAMON BUN 

Okay. I’m over my anger now–

Just kidding.

I hate this show. 

It fucking ruined my life, and will continue to ruin my life.

#GETREKT

#THATEPISODE10PREVIEW

#WANGSOANDBLOODINHISMOUTHBYE

Yo. I’ve got so much to say after that episode of Moon Lovers. 

I’ve seen quite a few people find Hae Soo quite OOC because of her terror and fear of Wang So when she was so insistent previously that she sees good in him. And on the surface I totally get this. However, here’s my opinion on it. 

You have to remember that Hae Soo was terrified of him at first. Before she knew him and started to see under the surface. On top of that he didn’t exactly treat her with a lot of kindness in the beginning. Like she says, why she gonna pity a guy who’s laid the death threats on thick and is only now starting to soften to her? She’s also very much “in love” with Wang Wook right now. I put that with “” because that’s going to change. I can sense that. 

Also, it’s being compared to that moment where she says “then tell me why you killed them”. But those moments are completely different because 1. not his family he has killed. And she’s seen the pain he’s in. There’s a difference in thinking that a person would kill for justice and good, and thinking they’ll kill their own family who isn’t all bad. If that makes sense? 2. It’s a vision. She’s seeing the horror of it visually, and he laughs manically in it as if he is enjoying murdering all of them. He looks truly evil in the vision and though it may be light years away, it doesn’t feel that way to her. She’s in an initial shock. I mean when she FIRST figures out he’s that feared King that supposedly kills his family, she gets over the shock and vows to change that. She decides not to run away scared after she gets over the initial shock. It’s only when she sees the complete vision of the murder that solidifies her fear and decision to run away. I love Wang So so much, but you have to admit he’s given her more reason to fear him and run away than to stay? Really? Yes he’s been steadily treating her better each episode but he’s always jagged around the edges during their interactions. There’s still an air of fear from both ends. And her visions came just as she was getting over her fears getting close to the 4th Prince. 

OK NOW THE DREADED KISS

I see where Wang So was coming from. I know why he did it. And yes he shouldn’t have forced himself on Hae Soo because she clearly didn’t want it. But remember folks he hasn’t been redeemed yet. So it’s not like it’s OOC for him to do that honestly. He’s still battling with that side of him. The animalistic desperate side. This kid is so desperate for love and Hae Soo running away is such a betrayal because he’s never opened up or trusted anybody before. I understand why he did it. It doesn’t justify or redeem him, but I get why. It’s not OOC. And even though I wish he didn’t do it, his character is that hurt

It definitely was unwanted and well, assault. Hae Soo kept resisting even after he’d planted the kiss. And I understand why. I mean girl is terrified and just so done with living in this era lmao. She just wants to go home. 

And general thoughts:

WANG SO. HE CAN’T BE THE ONE TO KILL HIS BROTHERS? I MEAN?! I CAN’T SEE HIM DOING IT UNLESS HE’S LITERALLY DRIVEN TO THE POINT OF INSANITY WHICH IS WHAT looks like happens from the vision? Laughing manically while butchering your fam… I mean… that speaks breaking point. Like psychotic break idk. Boy was literally fed to the wolves so who knows maybe that’s why it happens? Boy is just driven to insanity? That’s the only explanation. There has to be good reason if our boy is sane and still butchering his entire fam - all his brothers 

OR the visions are wrong, and they aren’t visions but just what Hae Soo’s memories are of history that she learned?  The visions could also be true, but somehow Hae Soo finds a way to change history? Who knows? At this point anything could happen? I mean the beginning on each ep does advertise that the writers have taken creative license to history so?

PRINCE EUN: OH MY PRECIOUS DARLING. MY BOY. He really fell for Hae Soo and i’m so sad for him that he’s marrying someone he hasn’t learnt to love yet. But I think in the end he’ll learn to love her. Gurl just needs to speak up :) I’m sure she will. I just hope he learns to accept her and love her . They’d honestly be great together if Eun really gave her a chance. I really feel for him though, nobody wants to enter a marriage with someone they barely know or love. Maybe this marriage will be the push he needs to grow up? I love him to death but boy still has a lot of growing up to do. 

Baek Ha: PRECIOUS CINNAMON ROLL

I still hate the Queen. She is a horrible horrible human. Her and 3rd prince can GTFO. 

What’s going on with Wang Wook? I mean he always had some strange vibes but now it feels like there’s some eerie evil vibes happening there? I wonder where his character is going to go? Is he the reason his brothers get slaughtered? Is he the one who slaughters them? Does he betray Hae Soo? Turn Evil? TBH his character for me is so damn hard to read. Because he’s so sweet but there’s something eerie about him too that makes me not want to trust his character. 

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YESUNG for CeCi Magazine January Issue | 151218 | heira1106

151219 Super Junior′s Yesung Says He Learned a Lot from ′Drill′

In the accompanying interview, Yesung opened up acting for the first time.

On why he chose a dark and heavy drama like Drill as his first acting project, Yesung said, “Because Drillincludes a lot of real stories, it was rather straightforward. Although it was somewhat burdensome because the original is so brilliant, I was happy to have come across a good project. And I was able to learn a lot.”

When asked about what kinds of characters he wants to play in the futures, Yesung said, “Whether it′s a lead or supporting role, just a good role is enough. There are a lot of roles I want to try, but I want to try a role like Park Hae Il sunbaenim in Memories of Murder. Personally, I think a dark role suits me better than a bright role.”

Yesung′s spread and interview can be found in the January issue of CeCi.

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