go vegan the right way

anonymous asked:

Hello! I feel like you're the kind of person to help handle an issue I'm having. I've decided to go vegan because of many many reasons I'm sure you know. I feel like everywhere I go people are saying "drink your milk and eat your meat to grow stronger!!11!" and sometimes I try to meekly explain to my friends why that is actually bad, but they just blow me off, make jokes and say "wellllllll not ALL cows are treated like that." I really want advice on what to do to help them see my point of view.

Hi anon! You’re awesome and I want to thank you for reaching out to me. I was once like you, a brand new shiny vegan. At first, everyone was pretty terrible to me too. Or at least, they mocked me for deciding not to eat animals. I tried to give them the facts, how the animals are treated, and how they’re basically just babies when they’re slaughtered (days to months old, depending on the species). But they just laughed it off.

Eventually, after a looong time, they saw it wasn’t just a phase, or a fad, and that it was something I truly stood by. And they stopped being shitheads about it. Even my ex, who was an avid meat-eater, told me I was right and that going vegan was probably the best way to live. He didn’t want to do it himself, but he said he knew I was right.

Unfortunately, that doesn’t really help the animals, does it?

Sometimes the best way is to show them is through a different lens, one that doesn’t come directly from you. Another voice. There are some really amazing documentaries out there about how animals are treated on farms, labs, zoos, and slaughterhouses. I admit, I didn’t have any interest in vegetarianism (I didn’t even know what veganism was at the time) until I had to witness what happened to these animals with my own two eyes. And I feel that most people are the same way. No one wants animals to be hurt or killed, especially if their money helps pay for it, and showing them actual footage of what happens in these places is honestly, in my opinion, something everyone needs to experience.

Here are some of my favorite documentaries I pulled from this post and I hope they help!

  • Earthlings - narrated by Joaquin Phoenix, details the human use of animals in five specific areas: for food, clothing, entertainment, science, and as pets. It’s graphic but YOU HAVE TO SEE what are you contributing to.
  • Lucent -  explores the darker side of Australia’s pig farming industry, highlighting the day-to-day tremendous cruelty accepted by the industry as standard practice.
  • Cowspiracy  : The Sustainability Secret - explores the impact of animal agriculture on the environment, and investigates the policies of environmental organizations on this issue. The movie has made such an impact that it motivated at least two restaurants to go vegan.  
  • What the Health -  the groundbreaking follow-up film from the creators of the award-winning documentary Cowspiracy. The film exposes the collusion and corruption in government and big business that is costing  trillions of healthcare dollars, and keeping people sick.
  • Before The Flood -  a look at how climate change affects our environment and what society can do prevent the demise of endangered species, ecosystems and native communities across the planet.
  • Peaceble Kingdom : The Journey Home -  the awakening conscience of several people who grew up in traditional farming culture and who have now come to question the basic assumptions of their way of life.
  • Meat The Truth -  presented by Marianne Thieme the documentary is drawing public attention to the issue of global warming, that has been repeatedly ignored, one of the most important causes of climate change, namely: intensive livestock production.
  • Forks Over Knives - advocates a low-fat, whole-food, plant-based diet as a way to avoid or reverse several chronic diseases.
  • Blackfish -  a documentary following the controversial captivity of killer whales and its dangers for both humans and whales.
  • Live & Let Live -  is a feature documentary examining our relationship with animals, the history of veganism and the ethical, environmental and health reasons that move people to go vegan.
  • The Cove - analyzes and questions dolphin hunting practices.  the film is a call to action to halt mass dolphin kills, change fishing practices, and to inform and educate the public about the risks, and increasing hazard, of mercury poisoning from dolphin meat.
  • Speciesism: The Movie -  The documentary takes viewers on a sometimes funny, sometimes frightening adventure, crawling through the bushes that hide factory farm, flying in airplanes above their toxic “manure lagoons,” and coming face-to-face with their owners.
  • Vegucated -  story about 3 omnivore New York guys who plan to go vegan for six weeks for weight loss and other health benefits, but during their vegan journey, they uncover the dark side of animal agriculture, and all of a sudden find themselves against the very industry they patronized a few weeks before.

anonymous asked:

If you're so concerned about plant rights, you should still go vegan, it takes way more plants to feed an animal, kill it and then feed it to humans than to just eat the plants directly. Also, without a brain or a central nervous system you can't feel, and if you can't feel, it's impossible to hurt you. This is why rocks, plants and bacteria, don't have the same fundamental rights as sentient beings. With the ability to suffer, comes the right to be protected from it

Alright, listen up you dumbass brain-damaged vegans, I’m gonna just spoon-feed y’all the actual point I made and not the pretend one you invented to cop out of reality and then I’m never talking to any of you fucking morons ever again ‘cause I’m 100% done with your deranged bullshit:

Eating plants and animals is BOTH FINE.

Regardless of which one you directly eat, you’re still contributing to the harm & destruction of both plants and animals. Just like every other living thing on the planet does, directly or indirectly.

This hilarious argument that the plant doesn’t know you’re hurting it so it’s okay (in addition to being incorrect [link]) is like saying it’s okay to steal from someone if they never find out you did it. It’s admitting that you’re a selfish cunt and that concern for other living things is not your reason for veganism. You only feel “guilty” if you get caught.

Anything you do to interfere with a living thing’s natural state & goals is “harming it”. “Human suffering” and death counts are not the only kind of suffering or harm - they’re just the only kind a vegan accepts becuase they’re the only kind that come back to bite them through “guilt”. Selfish cowards.

In the process of promoting this cartoon fantasy of human-like animal suffering, idiots like you harm people & animals:

  • You think a cat or an elephant is “crying” when animals don’t do that, it’s discharge from an eye infection that you’re preventing people from identifying the animal needs care for
    • A “smiling” dog (baring teeth in warning)
    • A “laughing” animal (wheezing / panting from dehydration)
    • The list of schizophrenic delusions goes on and on
  • You encourage people to approach animals as though they’re human friends-to-be, causing animals to misinterpret situations with their fight-or-flight instincts and lash out at humans, possibly killing them
  • You encourage humans to haphazardly introduce species of animals together, even domesticated w/ wild, causing pets to be maimed or killed through the unpredictable balance of wild vs. tame & nature vs nurture
  • By trying to make humanity reliant solely on plant material you are encouraging habitat destruction what since those habitats are made out of the plants we now need more of since your stupid ass is afraid for the pretend feelings of animals and we can’t use those anymore
  • You try to destroy beekeeps and zoos which are the only populations of otherwise extinct animals and are proactively taking efforts to prepare them for reintroduction, whereas you seem to think that releasing a dozen born-in-captivity animals into the wild will make a full population spawn back in like watermelons in Oblivion

You’re stopping people from understanding how animals actually work, both on an individual and a population level, via causing people to ignorantly neglect any animals they might be responsible in caring for and putting tire clamps on animal welfare efforts.

Veganism also directly harms humanity, as by definition it refuses basically any modern element of civilization since they’re all animal-dependent:

  • All modern medicine is founded on experimentation on living things and while plants have definitely played an important role, over 90% of human medicine is animal-derived
    • No dogs? We would never have developed insulin injections (and as a result, every other form of hormone therapy.)
    • No coral? There goes bone grafting.
    • No fungi? Have fun dying of every disease. (See Penicillium.)
    • No leeches? Many people who suffer severe burns or lose fingers will now rot alive when we treat them because their blood will clot during the surgery.
    • No milk? Your teeth are fucked!
    • No rats/mice? Everything from cancer to baldness is worse.
    • No silk? There goes surgery, you’ve got no biodegradable suture.
    • No snakes? We can’t use their venom to make antivenom (which is done by injecting it into an animal and collecting the antibodies.)
    • No humans?
      • The entire point of stem cell research is that everything comes from stem cells, so studying them improves the treatment of basically every human condition.
      • Remember rats & baldness? Scientists transplant circumcized foreskins onto them, because foreskin has no hair, so any hair that grows there is legitimately a result of the treatment. (Bald humans will not necessarily need to become dickheads to get hair, though.)
  • Most of modern society is made from animal product. Ignoring the obvious use in food and clothing…
    • No bones?
      • Water will make you sick
      • Sugar will suck and be more expensive
      • Note: Ivory is not bone (it’s dentine / teeth), and it is not sustainable due to fewer species being harvestable and therefore endangerment from rampant poaching
    • No hide?
      • No glue (books, wood, stringed instruments)
    • No milk?
      • No glue (labels on bottles)
      • No plastic
    • No wool?
      • Cold houses
      • Smelly diapers
      • Loud machines
      • Louder fuckfaces with bass turned way up in cars
      • No pianos
    • For the purposes of sustainability we’ve replaced many of our animal products with synthetics; but
      • we needed animals to glue together the machines we used to invent the synthetic glue, and to keep us from dying long enough to do it, etc.
      • synthetic materials have their own drawbacks and trust issues that lead us to fall back to tried-and-true natural products
  • Veganism causes malnutrition by the simple act of artificially limiting the range of foods available to any practitioner. Vegans have to rely on fake food & drugs (supplements), but…
    • … many of these supplements are animal-derived (surprised?)
    • … many cultures and religions bar their followers from using any kind of drugs or supplements, especially in Asia
    • … only an idiot eats pills instead of food if they can help it
  • Some people are allergic to chlorophyll. If they go vegan, they get to eat dirt and maybe specific fruits like apples, and that’s about it
  • Veganism by definition relies on crops, which themselves rely on animal products such as manure & routine killing of animals to protect said crops and maximize the profit off of them
    • Like the time that countless honey bees were killed by a pesticide meant to target mosquitoes [link]; beekeepers never kill their bees because they’re expensive as fuck to replace and many of them are hobbyists who just love bees & don’t even care about making mad bank off the honey; ERGO vegans are supporting a bee-killing industry and honey-eaters are not, funny how that works out

Of course, vegans love to move the goalposts and be okay with some suffering for the sake of humanity (especially their own individual benefit) and not others, because again, the whole thing is founded on selfish vanity.

And because I know your B12 deficiency (known to cause mental fatigue, poor concentration, and irreversible nerve damage) has made you forget I ever said this if indeed you noticed I did in the first place I’m gonna say it again:

Eating plants and animals is BOTH FINE.

… as long as you’re responsible enough not to render entire species extinct due to overfishing, habitat degradation, poaching, etc.

Grow the fuck up and accept the world for what it is:

  • Animals eat plants. Duh.
  • Animals eat animals - and make them suffer horribly while killing them with poison, constriction, or in the case of the lioness, chomping on their genitals until the pain exhausts them. Dolphins even rape and murder other sea life for fun. How we kill animals is pussy stuff in comparison to how animals kill one another
  • Plants eat plants & animals. All dead things either decompose directly into the soil or are eaten by something else and pooped there, then filtered further by burrowers like earthworms, a vital portion of plant nutrition.

Animals suffering & dying is A VITAL PART OF EVERY LIFE ON THE PLANET.

The only one not eating animals is you, and it’s for a stupid pretend reason.

Ancient peoples such as American “Indians” loved animals at the same time that they hunted them (and that animals hunted the tribes.) They honored the spirits of the animals that they killed, and in respect for their remains they made sure that not a single thing was wasted. They’d eat the meat, clothe themselves in the pelts, and make tools and weapons from the bones and sinews. They integrated animals so fully into their civilizations and their senses of self that they identified as indistinct from them; as brothers and sisters. As though an animal’s soul stayed with them through the items made from the body.

It’s from these traditions that we have developed “good sportsmanship” in hunting, such as firing a warning shot to let an animal start running, or declining to hunt nursing mothers or their young.

Because we respect our prey and we especially recognize the effects of our predation on the local and global ecosystems.

We eat animals, we experiment on animals, we clothe ourselves and build our cities and fuel our cars with their remains, and you falsely presume that we have zero appreciation for any of this and are just evil anti-animal Nazis because you feel guilty and demand that we do too.

So you make up this wild fantasy world completely at odds with reality to attempt to justify this lie to yourself and piss on our legs and tell us it’s raining.

Fuck you. You’re not fooling anyone but yourselves with this charade.

Eating plants and animals is BOTH FINE.

But even after saying it three times, you’re still going to ignore it and shadowbox the pretend FibS that said plants have feelings too ‘cause you’re so mentally stunted from your fad diet that you’re a vegetable too.

So go feed yourself to a bear.

We’re fucking done here.

This is what animal welfare looks like.

What kind of a message is this? How do you get ethical poultry? What is the difference between a “destroyed” calf and a “destroyed” hen?  How do you kill ethically? How do you exploit ethically? 

All animal products are unethical. Stop looking for the right way to do the wrong thing. Go vegan.

Animal welfare does not help animals. 

whooaamartha  asked:

Why do you care more about animals than unborn babies?

fuck off with this bullshit. im pro CHOICE.  every woman should have the right to her own body.  why dont you go and care for all the children that were born into this world without the proper support + care, both emotional & financial?  if abortion is criminalized, people will still get them done, just in unsanitary + unsafe conditions.  why do you care more about the government having control over what women can and cant do with their bodies than educating yourself as to why a woman would choose to have one?  every situation is different, you dont know what every individual woman goes through.  im sick of getting these asks. (p.s.: im vegan for every single living being on this planet, not just the animals.  we all share this earth.  even you are part of it boo.  climate change is not unreachable to you, even if it feels that way right now.  go watch Cowspiracy xoxo)