alright so now that i’m just sitting in central park waiting for the fox upfronts to start, i can talk about glenn
basically we were on opposite sides of the street because they had the side where the celebrities were leaving all barricaded off. so we (me, nicole, and justine) see glenn come out and i yell and get his attention and he waves at us, and i try and wave him to come over. he looks around like he’s trying to figure out if he can, and he yells back that he can’t, so i ask if i can go over there and he tells us to come over
so i run across the street, almost get hit by a truck, and glenn just opens his arms and says “you made it!!” so i go right over and hug him. he’s super sweet and tells whoever he’s with that he’s gonna stop and talk to us because we worked really hard to come see him
so i take a picture with him, and then i was feeling brave so i told him that his trans activism really means a lot to me as a trans person. he was so sweet about it and said it means a lot to him too and hearing things like that is why he does it. then i took the video for @topdennis and @adrianicsea and we said goodbye
so that was pretty much it, glenn is a sweet angel and hopefully i’ll have some news about rob and kaitlin in a little bit!!
Just a short story for @negan-dixon because we were shouting about this yesterday and I had to write a mini fic for it.
Daryl wasn’t sure going on a run today was the best idea especially with his mind all over the place, but Glenn had insisted he needed his help so who was he to turn around and say no. After everything Glenn had done for him and this group he could surely stop moping around long enough to help him.
Normally Daryl would be all up for going on a run, heck he’s usually the first one to volunteer. But after his argument with Elle a couple days back he was finding it hard to concentrate on even the most mediocre of tasks. He hated when she didn’t speak to him, found himself constantly thinking of ways to make it up to her for being an ass. But he wouldn’t pretend to be good with words so a quick heartfelt apology wasn’t the easiest thing for him to do and he always got his words muddled up and made things more confusing.
I quit watching TWD after Glenn got killed off because that whole decision to do so was incredibly disrespectful bullshit to his character the overall storytelling integrity of the show, and his fans. He was my favorite character, and, in my opinion, the last one that actually made TWD feel worth staying emotionally invested enough to continue watching as a whole because he still had a profoundly hopeful, inspirational, emotionally complex, optimistic, dynamic, and relatable storyline that also still had so much unexplored potential for fresh things that I actually still looked forward to seeing in terms of backstory and development on this show. That’s something that I feel like most of the other main characters have lost at this point, and Maggie was totally sidelined, anyway.
I like Rick, Carl, and Michonne, too, Richonne is a cute couple, they are necessary for the overall plot of the show, but like I said before, they’ve kind of turned into static characters, who’s full development of character has been achieved to me at this point. Carol is boring, I can’t stand Daryl, and the other characters are too poorly written and/or underdeveloped for me to even care about at all.
Also, Negan is a shitty villain. I don’t mean that in the sense that he’s a terrible person, either. He’s the main villain. Of course, he’s going to be evil. I expect that, that’s the whole point of him being a major antagonist, and that’s not the problem with his character. The problem is that he’s a poorly written one-note villain, who Gimple and the writers clearly didn’t put any effort into creating for the show at all by humanizing, or toning down from his comic counterpart, like they did with the TV Governor.
Negan gets too much screen time as it already is, just about as much as Rick and Team Family, if not more, but what makes that even more unbearable is the fact that he’s not at all interesting in comparison to the Governor in S3 and S4 on the show. Hell, even Gareth and the cannibals were more humanized than Negan on the show, and I thought that was TWD jumping the shark back at the time…Boy, was I ever wrong…
Anyway, the Governor’s episodes never felt like they took away too much time from the overall plot with Team Family, and they always felt relevant because they gradually connected with each other, rather than just being thrust together for shock value all at once in one big mess. While I’m still very pissed off that the writers could give bottle episodes to every other AL5 member, two major antagonists, characters who were introduced much later on the show, and random red-shirt characters that we never saw after one or two episodes, but never to Glenn, who was one of the five core AL5 protagonists on the show from day one, the Governor’s episodes were always a treat for me to watch, and one of the biggest highlights of S3-4A for me that always kept me on the edge of my seat. It was not because Philip (the Governor) was a good or likable person, overall, but because he was an emotionally complex and well-written villain. His actor, David Morrissey, did such a fantastic job of bringing the character to life on screen. It was so fascinating to watch the writers psychically break the Governor down by deconstructing, reconstructing, and ultimately deconstructing his character again in his demise at the end of 4A.
Even though I mostly hated Philip Blake on the show, I also was fascinated by him, and I felt a bit sorry for him because I knew why he was a villain. I got to see him be broken down into someone worse than he started out as on the show, try to get better for a bit, and ultimately fail by reverting back to his old power-hungry, narcissistic, and sociopathic murderous ways that led to his ultimate demise. The Governor was actually a character with a story that had a worthy of being told on the show because he was there as more than just a presence of meaningless shock value that terrorized Rick and Team Family. The Governor contributed to the greater theme of being too far gone.
What is Negan’s greater purpose on the show beyond terrorizing Rick and Team Family and reeling in higher ratings by using him as a tool to create torture porn scenes and shock value death? He’s straight up evil just because he likes to be, as far as we know, and I don’t think he ever will be a complex villain on the show because Gimple and tptb aren’t even putting in minimal effort in terms of writing for characterization and storytelling anymore. I can’t love to hate Negan and appreciate him as a villain, like I did with the Governor. Rather, I hate to hate him because he’s not interesting to watch at all, and I wish that he never came into existence on the show, instead.
It’s all just cheap, cruelly manipulative, and meaningless ‘shock’ value gimmicks that are no longer shocking because the writers always kill off the most obvious characters for “shock” value to try and be dark and edgy. You know, they always kill off the incredibly kindhearted, loving, and selfless souls, who have everything to look forward to in their lives, who overcome every obstacle, who overcome every stereotype, and who, thus, are often POC, LGBTQ, elderly, mentally ill, disabled, etc. characters to try and create more of a tragic emotional impact from the audience, and/or to save Daryl, instead.
I’m almost positive that saving Daryl was at least one of the factors for AMC and Gimple’s decision to kill off Glenn on the show. They wanted to kill off a popular AL5 member, Rick and Carl are the main leads and without them there is no show, Carol was sidelined from Team Family, and so that brought it down to choosing between Daryl and Glenn. AMC would never let them kill off their cash cow, so they chose Glenn. I’m pretty convinced about this because Daryl’s got all the merchandise from AMC and Hot Topic for the show on his side, not Glenn. And while Glenn was still a pretty popular character on TWD with fans, I remember seeing an article that said he still ranked second after Daryl back in S3. Plus, why else would they make Daryl indirectly responsible for Glenn’s death that he should have gotten, instead, and then focus almost entirely on his pain and suffering over Glenn’s death more than anyone else’s, including Maggie’s, Glenn’s wife? That seems like obvious fan pandering and Daryl favoritism to me, at least in part.
I was alright with good characters dying from S1-S4 because Glenn was always the one character there to defy the otherwise predictable and discriminative trope of the “kindhearted, selfless, and loving character from a marginalized group of people just can’t survive in this world,“ and because the deaths of the characters, who did die, besides Andrea, who Mazzarra fucked over in the S3 finale, still felt at least somewhat meaningful. However, after Hershel’s death, it began to feel like an extremely lazy, predictable, and cruelly manipulative trope that had lost its charm because we were losing too many good characters for no good reason. It really started to stick out to me with Beth’s death that happened because *gasps* they must add in a shitty and tragic plot twist that failed to make sense, anyway, because the writers had killed her off in the most OOC way right when she had just had the chance of greater complex development right in her grasp.
Glenn’s death on the show was my last straw, not just because he was my favorite character, but because his death was even worse than Beth’s. He was literally the the last remaining heart and soul of this show that they killed off. It wasn’t just Glenn who got killed off in the S7 premiere, it was the TWD that I originally fell in love with as a show, too.
At least the writers gave Beth a full arc to explore her new character development, and they took the time to focus on her before killing her off. The writers didn’t even give Glenn that much before killing him off on the show. Gimple threw Glenn under the bus right after sidelining him post S3. They used that dumpster gate fake out death bullshit with Glenn (which never happened in the comics that they were so intent on following for the death of this one main character from them) throughout most of the first half of S6, a season before his death, revealed that he was still alive a few episodes before the S7 premiere, made him kill living people for the first time to protect Maggie and his people after coming back, never mentioned anything about it afterwards again, and then killed him off in the S7 premiere, anyway, all because they wanted to shock the audience and give Daryl another man pain storyline by making him cause Glenn’s death.
Gimple is so narcissistic that he is unable to see just how shitty of writing that was, and called us “children” for being pissed off about it. Really? Shut the fuck up, Gimple! Being creative and diverging from the comics when there is potential to do so is your job! You could get away with not giving every other comic character the same death from them, create Daryl Dixon for the show and let him still live on it, kill Sophia, kill Andrea, let Carol still survive, and switch up every other major death, but you couldn’t save Glenn Rhee on the show from his comic death when you already had every perfect reason to not kill him off set up, which made it feel like a total sellout, anyway. I bet you were just too afraid and too lazy to be creative and take advantage of organic opportunities for something better and new, as usual.
Also, giving the audience such sparse false hope by killing Glenn off in the S7 premiere, after faking his death only a few episodes earlier is bad storytelling that has lost you a lot of fans respect and viewership, Gimple, including my own, so don’t tell us that Glenn fans shouldn’t feel pissed off enough to quit watching because you killed him off and blatantly disrespected his character and his fans in doing so.
The writers killed off Glenn, the character who they just made kill ten living people to save Maggie for the first time ever in S6 with no deeper explanation of the effect that it had on him afterwards. The writers killed off Glenn, who they hid under a fucking dumpster to fake his death and cheaply manipulate the audience for most of S6. The writers killed off Glenn, who they had been sidelining since S4, and who never got full backstory, development, or a bottle episode. The writers killed off Glenn, and made Daryl, the overrated white trash fan fav, responsible for it, so that he could survive to get a storyline out of it, instead. The writers killed off Glenn, who was the only death from the comics of a main character that they decided they just had to follow from the comics on the show. The writers killed off Glenn, who also happened to be the only core MOC protagonist on the show from day one that these white, narrow-minded, and racist writers just had to give his comic demise to, even though no other main character who died on show from the comics was ever given the same comic death on the show. The writers killed off Glenn on the show, even though it wasn’t relevant or necessary to the overall storyline, or to the development of Rick because Daryl stole Glenn’s role as Rick’s main righthand man, or the person who mattered to Glenn most in the world, Maggie, (and even that’s a shitty and racist excuse for killing off Glenn, but at the very least his death was a game changer for Rick because Glenn was his righthand man in the comics, while Maggie was a damsel in distress in them before Glenn died and she learned to stick up for herself in the comics) because she was already a badass and independent leader on the show, and they totally sidelined her and made her husband’s death all about Daryl’s pain over causing it to happen, anyway. The writers killed off Glenn, who was the last major source of living hope and optimism on this show that made TWD feel worth watching through all of the bullshit on this show as a whole because he was a constant source of the possibility that a better life could be achieved because the world went to shit. The writers killed off Glenn Rhee, who was a deeply meaningful symbol of hope, growth, and optimism on this show, rather than just boring day to day survival that goes nowhere new, and meaningless action and torture porn scenes that no longer shock me, just disappoint me. RIP Glenn Rhee=RIP TWD.
What we do, what we’re willing to do, who we are - it’s not my call, it can’t be. I couldn’t sacrifice one of us for the greater good because we are the greater good. We’re the reason we’re still here, not me.