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I was wondering if any [past or present] Jonerys, Pro-Daenerys fans like myself feel this way.....?

Firstly Id say please be nice i just enjoy analyzing the shit out of fandoms I like, (im a history/polysci major ((with an emphasis on Peace Justice and & Conflict Studies)) all i do is analyze and try to be diplomatic lmao) but considering all they petty drama between both ships as well as pro/anti Daenerys stans ON BOTH SIDES I’m going to be “That Person” and at least ask for people to be respectful/civil, I want to hear from everyone and their metas/what they think which is why i tagged like, all the tags, no matter if you love her/the ship or cant stand it, as long as everyone can keep civil

So firstly I’ve loved Dany both books and show from the beginning. She’s gorgeous, wants to be the best person she can be, and her hair/fashion style game is always ON POINT.  That being said, somewhere around season 5 i think i’ve found my opinion on her cooling a little bit, ep after ep, till now. Like I still like her bc she was my first character love on the show but I’ve def soured in my opinion on her. Maybe it’s because I love learning about the subject that im more baised (im hoping thats the case) but she just seemed to have no interest in actual governance, just the reputation (esp of being the ‘rebel queen’)/the awe/the power/the thrill of the adoration that went along with it to the point where I feel like though she still wants to be a ‘good queen’ or at least wants to be seen that way, she doesnt want to do much work for the title. Like yeah she freed all the slaves and that was a def progressive and awesome move on her part (major props! slavery is sin and im glad someone recognized that who had the power to do something about it) but she didnt handle that aftermath or ensuing problems well at all nor really mulled heavily on the subject to find the best solution. She just got fustrated with pretty basic/common (albeit complex in themselves) issues of standard governance and kind of went agh! fuck this! (obv not actual quotes but that was the vibe I got). And then ESPECIALLY after season 7 her character has kind of nagged at me in the back of brain which i hate but its inherent like its just a feeling i cant help it?? I just dont know why to be honest that Im feeling so negative towards this character i used to love.  The whole ‘ bEnD thE knEe ‘ thing w/ Jon and yet pinning it on Jon’s pride not equally on his and her own was more than a little hypocritical, when hon they can discuss it later like at that point they have two common enemies the WW and Cersei they both want to do away with, and then again with the Bend the Knee or Die bit w/ the Lannister soldiers. In fact the whole sequence before that point felt kind of villinous I dearsay, I mean  deliberately burning the harvest that most of westeros needs for the winter or even strategically not willing to try, and well, nOOt intentionally burn the food considering its winter, the harvest is over (so likely not much is gonna grow in the time being) when she has a G I A N T ass army of her own to think of feeding???? Like i get it is war shit happens soldiers die but the F O O D ? Was that an impuslive in the moment mistake or did she just not give a fuck? And back to the aftermath scene/Bend the Knee 2.0, her speech was again quite hypocritical…and burning dickon?????? not willing to keep prisoners???? either bend or die??? I actually am glad she did away with Papa Tarly bc he was an awful human, but dickon????? a young idealistic man about to loose his father??? the heir to a major ally/house???? And honestly that bend or die strategy is soooooo dumb bc now she cant trust any of them like theyre only bending the knee out of self preservation homie, no one wants to die. they bend  the knee to survive and now they all of the sudden think youre their queen? Nah fam, prisoners were better, all you got are spies in your camps or people willing to backstab you at the smallest promise of coin. And i dont want that for my girl

IDK the whole “im gonna BREAK THE WHEEL,,,,,,,,yet im stating my claim mainly on my housename (aka the predominant force of said wheel for a literal dynasty) and the fact that i can scare people who otherwise are unconvinced bc lets be real westeros has had a bad run of rulers a lot of which were Targs in the past couple decades, into submission bc ill burn you otherwise???” doesnt sit well with me nor does it feel like the character ive been rooting for the past five-ish seasons. She just doesnt seem to put into effort on understanding Westeros, why things go wrong, being self-critical or sharing the blame,thinking on what a “good” ruler would do…. anyone else feeling this way and if so do you think this is just shitty writing? D&D butchering her character? or a new arc for her? perhaps the way shes always been? She just seems like a tantruming child bratty and entitled idk (a beautiful child but still) 

As for jonerys…… im not gonna go into it much but how are other shippers happy????????? I honestly dont understand. I was SO looking forward to this season/this ship. like so much! But it felt so forced? And i know a lot of people claim its cause its rushed but tbh we’ve had a lot of romances in a similar time frame that felt like A C T U A L romances…..even Talisa/Robb who the Northerners will prob compare any of this too were so much better. THIS WAS MY EPIC SHIP DUDE. I feel the dany side of things (took a while but theres def heart eyes) and yet Jon???? He felt hollow. Still does even after sex. Im so disapointed but more than that I cant see the romance or the chemistry. He looks constipated. Hes never smiled like with his teeth around her the way hes done w others he cares deepily about (ygritte, toramund, sansa, even fkin gendry in the first scene they had together). He never reveals anything about himself. And between the “my queen” ep (and remember he was look warm when discussing her to toramund throughout it) and the previous the only thing that changed was that he saw the actual difference dragons made against WW. You could argue she saved them all too but that doesnt make you fall in love w someone out of the blue and also people have saved his ass before and??? Sansa w the vale anyone??? (Not an argument for jonsa js its happened) (though ill admit ive transitioned to loathing jonerys and loving jonsa more as a potential couple in the space of seven eps where if you asked me I wouldve been like PSH u cray. I never thought it would happen in a mill years but D&D ruined my ship and here i am! Shipping aside tho since its best too look at these things as neutral as possible).  Anyways the sigh of his after she left and when he pretended to be asleep…. idk. The only scene that felt genuine and where Jon smiled and it didnt look like a full on grimace and they actually kinda joked around was really nice and at the pit at the finale and if they do a LOT more of basic romance stuff like that I could ship it again but. It was followed by boatsex and boy. 

I was hoping boatsex might rekindle my like for the two together. I could see the chemistry the passion. I was hoping the passion would overwhelm me and make up for the rest. But instead……like there was no foreplay, it lasted 2 seconds, and it was overplayed by brans voice and a reminder of future conflict or at the very least major angst b/w the two. i didnt see the parallel between regear and lyanna playing alongside their scene as anything romantic or that it should be taken as such. and the look they shared…. I was hoping jon would bring it bc Dany’s look in her eyes is like soooo smitten and adorable and say what you will I still have a space in my heart for her and still dont want her to suffer, but again Jon looks like oh shit/constipated. And not in a good oh shit way either. 

There is a bunch more too but Imma stop there bc Im just tired at this point. 

So many things were just….off this season. And it cant all be blamed on the “rushed” time frame. I’ve read the undercover lover theory and hon it makes the most sense (not perfect sense but still, more than what we’ve been poorly spoon fed) but im not willing to believe it just yet. Still, maybe D&D are just butchering a lot of things like making the romance believable and stuff for the sake of time that could be true i guess. But they like to go AHA GOT U so 

Idk I dont find a lot of meta in the jonerys tag bc honestly (((((i think its bc the tag and ship are more popular and theirs more people both good and bad)))) it doesnt seem like snowballing theories is something all fans take really well in the tag at all. But whatever. I really want to know, is there any meta or theories im missing to either validate the icky feeling Im haveing about D or her “romance” or on the flipside anything that might make me change my mind about it? Theories, meta people!

I just want to reiderate im not trying to hate on anyone or any point of view and I will flag any comment anti one ship or person or another if its plain hateful or rude. I just want to understand it and see what Im missing, esp because of how much I was looking forward to her arc and jonerys’ dynamic and how much the words “falling short” dont seem to cover it. And to see if im not the only one to either have critique on the ship or her character [or even actually change ships]

Also i apologize for how much ive said “IDK” i just….. I DONT KNOW 

anonymous asked:

I'm honestly torn about how to feel about the 180 the Sonic Team did on the Shad/Amy front because I legitimately think it could've been a very interesting dynamic- Sonic's aversion to Amy, combined with Shadow's reluctant feelings combined with her unshakeable devotion to Sonic could LEGITIMATELY have been a really good basis for a moving dynamic. Not in a stereotypical love triangle two-guys-want-one-girl-and-hate-eachother type of way, but in a subtle and challenging way. (part 1)

Precious Anon Continues:

(part 2) The whole dynamic would probably have operated on the grounds that Son/Amy would be the end-all, which I think could’ve really brought out Shadow’s more melancholy side. And not in a, he’s-hopelessly-pining-for-this-preppy-girl-who loves-this-jerk way, but in a, “Shadow is finding some kind of emotional fulfillment in this strange relationship with Amy but is aware of Sonic’s dominant position in Amy’s life and so doesn’t do much with it and it’s kinda sad tbh” way.

(part 3) But on the other hand I’m well aware of the Sonic Team’s struggles with characterization and I know that a love triangle in their hands could potentially have been terrible, cliched and possibly destructive to the Sonic/Amy dynamic sooooo I’m half pleased they never went that route but DANG am I mad they dangled the very interesting Shadow/Amy dynamic in front of our faces and then SNATCHED IT AWAY. Those two could be so charming and poignant if the writing was well done and I’m mad.

(part 5) I feel like I should correct “Sonic’s aversion to Amy” with “Sonic’s already complicated relationship with Amy” :P But also in that respect, I think if Amy built up a good relationship with Sonic’s rival, it could actually lead to certain developments/revelations in the Sonic/Amy relationship. Not in the “I’m suddenly jealous oh wait I have feelings” way, (though I mean it’s possible) but more in the “new scenario means new reactions” way that you see in weresonamy/sonimue dynamic.

Although I love everything you’re saying, please remember the rules and only post one ask. Keep it as concise as you can, or chat with me on the messages through tumblr. I will be enforcing the rules, but I do love everything you said. :)

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I agree that this would have completely dug deep into character, created more needed lore to Sonic’s universe, and increase relationship dynamic between characters.

However, I do believe SEGA of Japan are ‘one girl to one man’ kinda people, and it’s true that I get annoyed about multiple people trying for one person and getting attached to one couple before it breaks when she chooses someone else…

Still, I like to support SonAmyShadSilv because of the ‘crush’ aspects that pull more character qualities out in ways we don’t naturally see. But everything must end in Sonamy, so cutting that dynamic out was to ensure nothing persist with Shadow’s fame (kinda, like people favoring Shadamy more than Sonamy, that could be a marketing issue…-Like Shadow becoming main character over Sonic just because he’s too involved in main leads.-) or even if they were planning Amy to end up with Shadow (it’s a theory) they worked it out that Amy should stick with Sonic in the end, and scrapped it for those reasons.

Either way, I would love some hedgehog jealousy/rivalry and all the hedgehogs just finding Amy precious and adorable. She reforms people by saying the exact, motivational thing they need to hear. It’s easy to fall in love with someone who so easily sees all the good in you, you know? ;)

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anonymous asked:

I want to see jungkook reaction if he's accidently meet OC ex-fiancee😆😆

I don’t think Jungkook and the OC’s ex-fiance will ever meet.  The OC had no contact with her ex after he moved out of their shared apartment and he moved in with the woman he was cheating on her with.  He was never in love with the other woman, but he needed a place to stay after he got kicked out and he can’t stand being alone.  He’s just accepted a promotion at work, but it requires moving away from New York to go live 500 miles away in Cleveland.  He hasn’t told his new live-in girlfriend that he is moving away yet.  He doesn’t want to take her with him, but he doesn’t want to deal with the drama.  He already has a new girlfriend lined up in Cleveland. He met her at a bar near the office when he was in town on a business trip and he’s been in something of a long distance relationship ever since.  He’ll end up telling the New York girlfriend that he’s leaving the day before the movers show up to pack up his stuff.  He’s a massive asshole.

girls who are anti feminism need to take a good look at themselves and have a think about their life choices.

why would you lower yourself and your standards to impress others, specifically other men.

you can be a feminist and have a boyfriend.

you can be a feminist and have a high paying job.

hell, you can be a man and be a feminist.

because feminism means finding equality.

not creating a matriarchy.

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One thing I will never understand and put up with is when you call an idol/group worthless. I DON’T care what fandom you’re in or who you like or don’t like. But don’t go around saying that this idol deserves to die, that they’re useless/worthless/overrated/annoying/fake or that “they ain’t shit.” You don’t know them. I repeat, you don’t know them to say that they’re worth living or not. Scratch that, you don’t even see a mustard seed’s worth of their life to make a label on them. Make judgements and have opinions, it is your life but as a part of the k-pop fandom, lets try to respect one another and each others’ biases/groups. Idols will always get shit and get hated on no matter what they do-good or bad. Lets not add fuel to the flame that is already there. #respectplease