I’m just a casual fan of SJ but I kinda feel sad for how under-appreciated they are. Sure they have done/said some stupid things, but why don’t the netizens ever give them SOME credits? Besides hyping up the Hallyu Wave, they were the first to created the sub-units, (one of the?) first variety-idols, and not to forget, the Hangeng issue which opened a pathway for the other Chinese idols + probably helped the current SM artistes get a better contract. They are 1 of the long lasting groups but no one seems to acknowledge that just because they lost 2 OUT OF 13 members. Even their hoobaes whom they openly supports & promoted rarely or never do the same for them. Right now it just feels like it’s SJ+ELF against the world. This is just, sad. :