ghost in the shell tv

Wow people really seem to hate it when characters are changed from the source material

Oh wait, that’s only if the character is changed to anything other than a white straight person… cause we desperately need more straight white people represented in media. 

You would think that people so clearly invested in comic characters would have retained some of the messages comics have been telling for years, like equality, respect, fairness, compassion, unity, friendship and standing up for others just to name a few. but instead i’m sure they’ll just continue spouting this utter garbage. 

The original manga, written by Masamune Shirow, was published in 1989 by Kodansha, which licensed it for Mamoru Oshii’s seminal 1995 anime feature, a number of Japanese spinoff films and anime series, and most recently for the Hollywood live-action version.

“Looking at her career so far, I think Scarlett Johansson is well cast,” Sam Yoshiba, director of the international business division at Kodansha’s Tokyo headquarters, tells The Hollywood Reporter. “She has the cyberpunk feel. And we never imagined it would be a Japanese actress in the first place.”
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Scarlett Johansson in ‘Ghost in the Shell’: Japanese Industry, Fans Surprised by “Whitewashing” Outrage

SAM YOSHIBA IS NOT THE WRITER YOU THUNDERING DUMBASSES

MASAMUNE SHIROW WROTE AND DREW THE ORIGINAL MANGA AND FOLLOWUPS, MAMORU OSHII DIRECTED THE 95 ANIME FILM AND IT’S SEQUEL, SHIROW CONSULTED AND WORKED ON STANDALONE COMPLEX, THE PSONE GAME, THE FILMS, AND SO ON

i can’t believe ppl are out here saying 'the guy who works for kodansha’s international division, based on a century of asian americans being shut out of good roles in hollywood, very diplomatically said they never expected a japanese actress’ as if this is supposed to be authorial intent

HE IS NOT THE AUTHOR, HE IS, LIKE, THE AUTHOR’S MIDDLE MANAGER

jesus

like i know mamoru oshii also said he was fine with it, but OSHII DIDN’T CREATE THE CHARACTER EITHER, OOPS

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archpaladin  asked:

I asked @evilelitist2 this question, and we both wondered what your thoughts were: How does one deal with the "practice what you preach" dilemma I seem to run into regarding socially responsible media consumption, the idea that if you want to talk about sexism or racism or any other -ism on the internet, consuming media that contains those elements is hypocritical and undermines your own personal integrity and the argument you're attempting to make?

Oh no no no no no no.

Much disagree.

That’s actually one of those ideas that deeply offends me on multiple levels: as a fan, as an activist, as a critic, and as an artist.

I have a LOT of problems with this idea, so I will attempt to organize them in a hopefully coherent manner.

From a fan perspective:

If you attempt this you will fail, and also you will be sad.

There is no such thing as a perfectly inoffensive piece of media (okay, maybe Undertale, but you can’t spend your life playing Undertale and doing nothing else). These ideas are too prevalent in our society for it to be possible to ignore anything that even passively contains them. You will not be “allowed” to consume any art at all, and you will end up a very bored human.

You will miss out on otherwise good pieces of art.

I love 1940s Hollywood and Eminem. Both contain ideas that I am more than a little ideologically opposed to, yet I firmly believe my life would be less happy and less rich if I had failed to experience either. Just because something, say, supports antiquated gender roles doesn’t mean that it is without any value. Anything involving Katharine Hepburn has inherent value.

From an activist perspective:

You will not understand the thing you are fighting.

If I purposefully avoid sexist media, how will I be able to speak with any authority on the subject? How will I know what specific tropes or stereotypes are the biggest problem? How will I even know what I’m asking creators to change? You can’t beat something you don’t understand.

How can you know for sure that something is problematic until you experience it?

This reduces the “socially responsible media consumer” to making all their decisions based on rumor, second-hand information, and the general consensus of people who have watched it (also, those people had to watch it to tell you that information, so are they hypocrites now?).

Let’s talk about The Social Network.

I knew someone in college who refused to watch this film because she had determined, on the basis of the trailer, that it was sexist. She cited the fact that there were scantily-clad women doing drugs in some shots and not much else. However, I suspect the fact that the main character is sexist was a contributing factor. (I think the bit where he spews sexist shit about his ex and then makes a program based on rating the women on campus for their attractiveness was in the trailer.) Except, I’ve seen The Social Network, and the entire film is about critiquing that guy’s worldview. Those scenes of scantily-clad women doing drugs etc. exist to demonstrate that this is the only way these men know how to interact with women. The movie opens and closes with a very smart women telling Mark that he needs to learn how to interact with humans in general and women in specific. The film goes out of its way to make sure we understand how messed up this is. Overall, I would call it a feminist film.

The one scene I did find sexist (as well as unnecessary) was this one:

Still, I highly recommend that everyone see this film. It’s a great primer on the MRA and Nice Guy mindset. And also it’s just a really good movie.

To sum up: first impressions can be wrong, and things are always more complicated than simply being  sexist or not sexist. I personally refuse to give over control of what I watch and what I think about it to people who aren’t me.

This mindset will lead people to reject social justice criticism, and do it aggressively.

Think about it. If I’m either a sexist or a hypocrite for liking (or even watching) something with any sexist ideas, than I am now emotionally invested in loudly denying that there are any problems with a piece of media (or a media genre) at all. And then you get what is basically media nationalism.

Sound familiar? It should. This is the mindset that Gamergaters and the Anita Sarkeesian haters have. If we’re saying video games have some sexist ideas, then we are saying that they, personally, are sexist, and that they are not allowed to play video games anymore. This is one of the ideas I’ve been trying to fight.

How can we possibly convince anyone to think critically about media if doing so means they have to give up the things they love or feel guilty for loving them?

That’s not what we were “preaching” to begin with.

The purpose of social justice criticism is not to tell people not to consume art; it’s to ask people to think about art and about the ideas it contains. We’re asking the audience to think critically about what they’re watching (reading, playing) and the creators to think critically about what they’re producing. That’s it. So, as long as we’re all doing the first thing, and those of us who are artists are doing the second thing, we are in fact practicing what we preach.

For the record: I’m not opposed to things like boycotting the Ghost in the Shell movie, but that’s not actually about the content of the art so much as the casting practices of Hollywood. It’s a tactic that attempts to give Hollywood a monetary incentive to actually cast some fucking Asian actors in movies what the hell? 

Also, it’s important to remember that choosing to see the movie is not a moral transgression or a sin against anybody.

From a critical perspective:

You are not required to be pure to criticize a piece of media, that’s just weird.

I know most of the world has internalized the whole “let he who is without sin cast the first stone” thing, but criticizing media isn’t really equivalent to stoning someone to death, and also I’m not a Christian so bite me. To be a critic you are not required to be a saint. To be a critic you are required to be good at analyzing media. That’s it.

How can you criticize something you haven’t experienced?

The very first thing anyone arguing with you is going to say is “what the hell do you know?” and they will be right.

Reading, watching, or playing something does not mean you agree with it.

I’ve read Ender’s Game. @evilelitest2 has attempted to read Atlas Shrugged. Basically every film student in the universe has seen Birth of a Nation. Professional film critics watch as many movies as possible. You’re supposed to have perspective and understand the entire industry.

You are not a hypocrite for engaging with something you disagree with.

How else do you develop critical thinking skills? If you’re never exposed to ideas you disagree with, your ideas will be simplistic and you won’t be used to defending them.

From an artistic perspective:

We would be ignoring the entire history of art.

For most of human history people have been racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, etc. If we study art we will see these things. We can and should address them, but we can’t discount an entire piece of art based on the fact that it expresses these ideas. As artists, we need to learn from these things, and as art historians we need to learn about these things.

For example, I’ve heard people say that Birth of a Nation should not be taught in film classes. 

Now, aside from the fact that ignoring horrible aspects of history doesn’t make them go away, removing DW Griffith from a film curriculum would be like removing Shakespeare from an English curriculum. He invented a huge part of the language film uses to convey ideas. He was also a shitbag, and we should talk about that, but we also have to talk about the form and content of his art, because it’s part of understanding how film works.

Experiencing problematic media helps teach artists what NOT to do.

I often read badly written things on purpose, because it helps me clarify in my head what I don’t want to be. This can be quite easily applied to morally questionable things as well. We can tell young artists not to make sexist art, but how do they know what that means? They may just say, “well, I’M not sexist, so it’s not a problem.” But if we show them an example of how unthinkingly reproducing tropes or not thinking through situations can lead to unfortunate implications, they have a better chance of understanding us.

You will disincentivize artists from creating sexist/racist/homophobic characters.

If I decide to write a sexist POV character, even if the purpose of my book is to critique their worldview, I will risk people deciding my book is sexist and should be boycotted. This could be based on something as small as an out of context quote. Here, I’ll do it right now. This is a quote from The Social Network:

“Erica Albright’s a bitch. Do you think that’s because her family changed their name from Albrecht or do you think it’s because all B.U. Girls are bitches? For the record, she may look like a 34C but she’s getting all kinds of help from our friends at Victoria’s Secret. She’s a 34B, as in barely anything there. False advertising.”

See? This movie is totally sexist. Also it’s anti-German and hates Boston University. No one should watch this movie ever.

Now, people can and will do this no matter what, because not everyone realizes that the writer does not necessarily agree with their characters (argh), but if we start telling people that their moral fiber depends on preemptively writing off anything with the potential to be offensive, then this will happen more frequently and with the sort of people who might otherwise read my theoretical book and understand it, or even come out of it with a better understanding of why sexism is bad.

Art is not something you “consume” in the way you consume food.

Watching Birth of a Nation does not raise my moral cholesterol. Thinking of it like that reduces the piece of art to a one idea delivery service and you to an unthinking maw that accepts all ideas it’s fed. Art is complex and full of possible interpretations, and you have a brain.

tl:dr

How do you deal with problematic media? You watch/read/play it, and then you talk about it.


Note: if we’re purely talking from a capitalistic, “vote with your money” perspective, then avoiding (recent) media whose existence you find morally abhorrent is a valid tactic to try to change what art a corporation produces, but always remember that it’s just that: a tactic. It is not a moral imperative.

PS Sorry it took me so long to get to this one. It was such an interesting question and I had so much to say and my asks kept piling up with stupid MRA stuff that I thought I’d get that out of the way first. Also it took forever to articulate and organize my ideas.

tbh the only piece of reboot media that hasn’t disappointed me is the power rangers movie. A true masterpiece. 

  • Me: It's past midnight. I have watched two anime movies, three episodes of my favourite series, and read quite a lot of fanfiction.
  • Me: Tomorrow I'm busy, so now I should go to rest a bit. Six hour of sleep, at least.
  • Me: *starts watching videos about otp*

anonymous asked:

While making inherently-Chinese/Japanese/etc. stories made for Western television (ex. Mulan=Chinese or Ghosts In The Shell=Japanese), what is, in your opinion, the correct way to cast? Do you believe in the validity of casting East/Southeast Asian actors as specifically Chinese or Japanese? As an Asian person myself, I am constantly torn in between wanting representation for all Asian ethnicities and slightly offended when western media sees a, for example, Korean actress interchangeable (1/3)

Hey sib!

Sorry for the late reply but I had to think about all your asks lol. Anyhow, for “American adaptations” of anime like Ghost in the Shell, I think they should star a Japanese American woman. For American animations like Mulan, I think they should star a Chinese American woman. Basically for any kind of American creation (or recreation) that centers around Asian people, cultures, or stories, they should always star an Asian American that accurately represents the leading character.

So with that said, I don’t like how Hollywood and other western media act like all Asian people are interchangeable too. As much as I would like to see Southeast Asians represented, we can’t have a Southeast Asian person playing a East Asian character or even a Korean person playing a Chinese character. They’re pretty much saying that all Asian people are the same while erasing the diversity that exists among us. So much for “diversity” right?

(pt 2/3) with a Chinese character. I would also like to hear your opinion on the casting of hapas for these same roles. LikeI’m super excited to see Henry Golding get roles on screen and I love Ross Butler and would be thrilled to see him as Li Shang in the Mulan movie (entirely fan-supported), but cannot help but feel as if a full-Chinese actor would be robbed by having them cast. While I would never want to put a barrier on how ‘Asian enough’ someone is, I do think that some mixed Asians have

Just for terminology clarification, hapa is a Hawaiian term for mixed people so it’s not actually correct to use it in this context even though most people probably would. For people like Henry, I think it would be more suitable to use Eurasian (?) and for those like Ross, I don’t know to be honest lol. White-mixed Asian American is too long but that’s what I’d normally use. Anyhow, this topic is a discussion for actual mixed folks.

But I do agree with you here. It’s not that Eurasian folks or white-mixed Asian Americans aren’t Asian enough, it’s just the probable cause that for some, their whiteness has given them an unfair advantage over “full-Chinese” actors. There are tons of folks who have tried to break into the mainstream but then suddenly, someone we don’t really know gets a leading role and is considered to be some breakthrough when we already had others trying for years. I personally think whiteness has an unfair advantage in the mainstream.

(pt 3/3) that some mixed Asians have a significantly different experience and also, while they do experience hardships, do get more roles and have a slight advantage. I respect your opinion and this blog and would really like to hear what you have to say on this topic as to more fully educate myself and form an opinion. I felt if I should ask someone who is at the very least probably more informed on racial issues in the Asian community than I. Keep doing the good work!

Yep, I think so too. It also depends as well though because while there are some white-mixed Asian Americans who may have “beneficial features” as @solacekames pointed out, there are others who may not have such features which wouldn’t grant any privilege. So some do definitely have an advantage while others may not.

Sorry for the length but thanks for the respect and all! :D I wouldn’t consider myself more informed on racial issues in the Asian (American) community than you or anyone else though. I don’t know how to explain it but I just like to read a lot and especially like to talk a lot of crap lmao.

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For 10 fav characters from 10 different fandoms (as tagged by @sweatered-mermaid) In no particular order:

1. Knights of the Old Republic - F!Darth Revan
2. Legend of Zelda - Midna
3. League of Legends - Sejuani
4. Final Fantasy XIII - Lightning Farron
5. Okami - Amaterasu
6. Ghost in the Shell (TV series) - Major Motoko Kusanagi
7. The 12 Kingdoms - Youko Nakajima (Kei-ou)
8. Bloodborne - Lady Maria of the Astral Clocktower
9. Dark Souls - ummm Solaire. BECAUSE PRAISE THE SUN
10. Overwatch - Pharah (Fareeha Amari)

Clearly I have a recurring theme of badass, independent (and sometimes morally questionable) ladies who can also kill you in a heartbeat. Unf. And here they all are for your viewing pleasure:

for shits and giggles, I tag @superrisu, @multishep, @zerrat, @lichirelia, @cinisofages, and @phoenix-empress

List of TV series/anime I need to finish:

- Hannibal

- Naoki Urasawa’s Monster

List of TV series/anime I should watch:

- Ghost In The Shell

- Black Mirror

- Big Little Lies

- Breaking Bad (I know this is old. I know)

- American Gods

- Peaky Blinders

- A Series of Unfortunate Events

- House of Cards

- Westworld

- The Wire

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I got tagged by @kihiart! Thank you! ^^

Goal: Tag nine people you want to get to know better

Relationship status: single

Favorite color: dark blue / black

Lipstick or Chapstick: I’m not a girl and I don’t use any of them. xD

Last song I listened to: Gintama 4th ending song (was just watching an episode)

Last movie I watched: Ghost in the Shell. I liked it.

Top three TV shows (not counting animes):
1. Game of Thrones
2. Stranger Things 
3. The Office (US)

Top three characters:
1. Sanji (One Piece)
2. Nami (One Piece)
3. Miroku (InuYasha)

Top three ships
1. Sanji x Nami (One Piece)
2. Koushiro x Mimi (Digimon)
3. Miroku x Sango (InuYasha)

I was tagged by @for-lack-of-a-better-world :) :)

GOAL: Tag people you want to get to know better! @eternallydaydreaming2015 @uselesswriter13 @artistic-fangirl-shenanigans and anyone else who would like to :)

Relationship Status: Legally married, but we’ve separated

Favourite Colour: Purple

Lipstick or Chapstick: Lipstick

Last Song I Listened To: I Get Off - Halestorm

Last Movie I Watched: Total Recall

Top Three TV Shows: Penny Dreadful, Supervet and Ghost in the Shell

Top Three Favourite Characters: Ardyn Izunia (FFXV), Kaine (Nier) and Ada Wong (Resident Evil)

Top Three Ships: Ignis x Aranea (FFXV), Cloud x Aerith (FFVII) and Ada x Leon (Resident Evil)

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